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#25Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 10:50pm

Whoa... The Prom won Outstanding Musical!

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#26Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 10:51pm

HeyMrMusic said: "Whoa... The Prom won Outstanding Musical!"

It's time to dance!

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#27Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 10:54pm

How does a musical win best book, lyrics, and music (and best actor) and lose best musical to a show that hasn’t won another award all night? I know it happens. It just still seems odd.

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Posted: 6/2/19 at 10:56pm

So happy for The Prom! Spread the love!

Alex Kulak2
#29Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 10:59pm

That's a really fair question to ask about The Prom. If it didn't have the best Book, Lyrics, Actor, or Actress of the season (and that's just it's other nominations), why is it the best musical?

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#30Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:01pm

I don’t think it matters much as HADESTOWN seems poised to win, but I have always felt that THE PROM would be the next most likely to win. TOOTSIE may have better elements, but THE PROM seems to have a more lasting effect on people. If there was a preferential ballot like the Oscars, I could 100% see THE PROM taking it.


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#31Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:01pm

Preparing myself for everyone to start the non-stop “Prom is winning the Tony for Best Musical!!” comments for the rest of the week...ugh. Although, SpongeBob did win last year, so

Updated On: 6/2/19 at 11:01 PM

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#32Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:06pm

Oklahoma still hasn’t won any revival awards this season.

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#33Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:06pm

Well just keep reminding people that Hadestown wasn’t up for the award so this doesn’t mean The Prom has a chance against it.

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#34Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:08pm

THE PROM made me tear up at the end. Maybe that emotional pull carried enough weight with the voters to propel the show to Best Musical.

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Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:09pm

If it’s well-liked though, it could have a shot at Book or Actor over Tootsie.

InTheBathroom1
#36Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:13pm

Tootsie may have technically better lyrics, music, and book but The Prom has heart and Tootsie will never have that.

Zion24
#37Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:37pm

HeyMrMusic said: "Oklahoma still hasn’t won any revival awards this season."

I noticed the same thing, but has it lost to Kiss Me Kate yet? It seems Oklahoma! was divisive enough to not generate as much love as Fiddler. but still impressed people more than Kiss Me Kate. I think its a near lock for the Tony. 

While I think Hadestown is still the frontrunner for Musical, I think at least with respect to the acting categories, these should mirror the Tonys (appropriately enough, leaving Featured Actor in a Musical wide open....)

 

 

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#38Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/2/19 at 11:54pm

Kiss Me, Kate beat Oklahoma! at the Drama League Awards.

LightsOut90
#39Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 12:06am

the fact that rags Parkland Sings The Songs of The Future got totally shut out breaks my damn heart. 

while I am thrilled The prom took home outstanding musical, as othwers have said the fact it won nothing else is super odd. 

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#40Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 12:35am

A quick statistical observation about this year’s Drama Desks (and it’s generally true of most years):

Just about every award tonight went to a Broadway show, except in categories where no Broadway shows were nominated. The only exception to this was Fiddler’s win of Musical Revival. To be fair, this year had an unusual number of categories made up of only Off-Broadway shows. But in general it seems to me that the Drama Desks talk a big talk about appreciating all New York theatre, but when it really comes down to it, they’re almost always biased toward Broadway. And I know that’s not new information (Especially when you consider that Hamilton and Little Shop are the only off-Broadway productions to EVER win Best Musical), but it still frustrates me.

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#41Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 12:53am

JBroadway said: "A quick statistical observation about this year’s Drama Desks (and it’s generally true of most years):

Just about every award tonight went to a Broadway show, except in categories where no Broadway shows were nominated. The only exception to this was Fiddler’s win of Musical Revival. To be fair, this year had an unusual number of categories made up of only Off-Broadway shows. But in general it seems to me that the Drama Desks talk a big talk about appreciating all New York theatre, but when it really comes down to it, they’re almost always biased toward Broadway. And I know that’s not new information (Especially when you consider that Hamilton and Little Shop are the only off-Broadway productions to EVER win Best Musical), but it still frustrates me.
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well, the primary purpose of the Drama Desk is to get tickets for its members, most of whom would not get them otherwise. As it is, there are a healthy number of League members who support curtailing these Drama Desk tickets. The truth is, if they started routinely honoring the best of New York theatre instead of Broadway, those tickets would dry up in a New York minute. 

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#42Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 1:11am

HogansHero said: "well, the primary purpose of the Drama Desk is to get tickets for its members, most of whom would not get them otherwise. As it is, there are a healthy number of League members who support curtailing these Drama Desk tickets. The truth is, if they started routinely honoring the best of New York theatre instead of Broadway, those tickets would dry up in a New York minute."

 

Sorry, could you explain this further? Not sure if it's my 1am brain just not processing correctly, or if I just don't know enough about the topic at hand (probably both) but I'm not following your logic. In what regard is the Drama Desk's main purpose to get tickets for its members, and why would the tickets dry up if they began awarding Off-Broadway shows more? I guess I don't know how that whole process works. 

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#43Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 1:26am

JBroadway said: "it seems to me that the Drama Desks talk a big talk about appreciating all New York theatre, but when it really comes down to it, they’re almost always biased toward Broadway."

It's a double-edged sword. You could split all the categories, guaranteeing awards for Off-Bway shows, but then the Off-B awards could be viewed as "second-class" (+ the ceremony would be 5 hours). Keep them together and honor the best of New York theatre, and risk this trend continuing for decades to come. At the same time, it would be hard to argue that any of this year's Bway winners weren't deserving. (I think the design and craft categories are especially tough, because on Bway the resources are so much greater.)

Also, not every DD member will have seen every Off-B show. Most of them have seen all the Bway shows. So in that regard, there is a bias because Broadway shows have (generally) longer runs and are more high-profile.

TLDR, I don't know if there's a good way to fix it.

Updated On: 6/3/19 at 01:26 AM

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#44Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 1:42am

JBroadway said: "HogansHero said: "well, the primary purpose of the Drama Desk is to get tickets for its members, most of whom would not get them otherwise. As it is, there are a healthy number of League members who support curtailing these Drama Desk tickets. The truth is, if they started routinely honoring the best of New York theatre instead of Broadway, those tickets would dry up in a New York minute."


Sorry, could you explain this further? Not sure if it's my 1am brain just not processing correctly, or if I just don't know enough about the topic at hand (probably both) but I'm not following your logic. In what regard is the Drama Desk's main purpose to get tickets for its members, and why would the tickets dry up if they began awarding Off-Broadway shows more? I guess I don't know how that whole process works."

I think what Hogan is saying (and I know he’ll correct me if I’m incorrect) is that Drama Desk exists primarily to get free tickets to (primarily) Broadway shows as shows are required to give free tickets to voting members of award bodies.

And thus, if DD started mostly or only awarding non-Broadway properties, the League might decide it doesn’t make much sense to continue to require Broadway shows to put aside tickets for DD members.  

Updated On: 6/3/19 at 01:42 AM

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#45Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 8:48am

Don’t expect the same success next Monday, but I’m glad The Prom can be a “BEST MUSICAL” sign outside their marquee and in their marketing. Happy for this show!!

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#46Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 9:08am

I don't think the question should be "How did The Prom win Best Musical?", but "How did Tootsie win Best Music?" In my opinion, Be More Chill has an infinitely better score, as does The Prom, which wasn't even nominated. For example, I think "Michael in the Bathroom," "The Smartphone Hour," and "The Lady's Improving" are better songs than any in Tootsie.

Updated On: 6/3/19 at 09:08 AM

InTheBathroom1
#47Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 9:46am

Some people liked the music in Tootsie but I found the whole score to be mostly pedestrian and charmless except for a few of them.

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#48Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 10:03am

Fiddler winning the Best Revival of a Musical was the biggest lock of the day. It's that good.

I wonder why it's not selling out in spite of the fabulous reviews across the board. Do you think it's the fact that it's in Yiddish deters Gentiles from going (even though very few Jews today understand more that a few words of Yiddish, which by the way the same ones that Gentiles understand)? Personally, the fact that the show is in Yiddish enhanced its authenticity and emotion to a level I could not have foreseen.


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#49Drama Desk Reactions
Posted: 6/3/19 at 10:26am

There is no way the majority of voters will schlep out to see every eligible off-Broadway production. That's about a hundred shows a season- and then add in the dozens of Broadway shows. Unless it's a major hit, it is probably being passed on. That's why throwing together off and on Broadway productions for awards like this is a dubious decision. 


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