Glenn Close wants to start 'Sunset' movie by the end of this year- Page 2

[uncageg]

Posted: 4/12/20 at 3:23pm

BrodyFosse, that made my Easter day!

[Jarethan]

Posted: 4/12/20 at 4:00pm

Theatrefanboy1 said: "See I guess joe would really be up in the air. While TImothee Chalamet would be around the correct age. In contrast to Glenn they would need someone like Patrick Wilson. Unless they really wanted to play up on the age gap "

Hugh Jackman would probably be a good choice if she ever does get to film it; she’s still older than him. I think his character would also be more sympathetic, since he’d be a 50 year old struggling writer as opposed to someone in his thirties.  I guess he could be a has-been, looking for another chance.  That might actually make it viable.  Age them both.


Whether it ever gets made is another matter.  I can see this in a double bill with Streisand’s Gypsy.  Such a shame these didn’t get serious attention when they were the right age, whatever that is.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 4/12/20 at 4:00pm

Theatrefanboy1 said: "See I guess joe would really be up in the air. While TImothee Chalamet would be around the correct age. In contrast to Glenn they would need someone like Patrick Wilson. Unless they really wanted to play up on the age gap "

Hugh Jackman would probably be a good choice if she ever does get to film it; she’s still older than him. I think his character would also be more sympathetic, since he’d be a 50 year old struggling writer as opposed to someone in his thirties.  I guess he could be a has-been, looking for another chance.  That might actually make it viable.  Age them both.


Whether it ever gets made is another matter.  I can see this in a double bill with Streisand’s Gypsy.  Such a shame these didn’t get serious attention when they were the right age, whatever that is.

[jpbran]

Posted: 4/12/20 at 9:41pm

CarlosAlberto said: "A Director said: "The movie version of JCS BOMBED.

The movie version of Phantom BOMBED.

The movie version of CATS BOMBED.

Glenn, let's make if Four For Four."

Norman Jewison's 1973 film adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice's groundbreaking rock opera, "Jesus Christ Superstar" did NOT bomb. It grossed 24.5 million at the box office against an estimated 3.5 million dollar budget. It earned approximately 10.8 million dollars in USA box office rentals.

It was one of the most successful movie musicals of the 1970s.

It ranked #11 in the top 20 box office hits of 1973 right behind "Serpico".

Do your homework before spreading erroneous information."

Also, the “four for four” only works if you conveniently leave out Evita which grossed $141m in 1996 dollars. (And the soundtrack sold a boatload for a nearly sung-through movie musical album.)

[jo]

Posted: 4/12/20 at 10:31pm

Interesting that when some of  the early members of this board were posting on a now-defunct message board -- there was a topic which discussed the rumors of the film adaptation of Sunset Boulevard. The rumor then was that Barbra Streisand was already in serious discussion with Andrew Lloyd Webber for the project. Remember that she was the first one to release WITH ONE LOOK and AS IF WE NEVER SAID GOODBYE?  It was also rumored at that time that she wanted Hugh Jackman ( this was around 2003) for the role of  Joe Gillis. But the project fell through because she wanted creative control ( i.e., to direct the movie) but ALW did not agree. No mention then if Paramount which owned the film rights to the original film noir was part of the discussions.

What could have been 

Updated On: 4/12/20 at 10:31 PM

[David10086]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 12:06am

In 2004, when doing interviews for “ Fockers “, Streisand was asked about Sunset Blvd. She responded that she was interested, but the project still had a long way to go from Broadway musical to Hollywood movie. I remember her saying there still wasn’t a movie yet, and what she was presented with needed much more work.

Likewise, in an interview with ALW at the same time for the movie release of POTO, he acknowledged there was still work to be done, and the only actress he could imagine on screen playing the role was Streisand.

Now here we are 15+ years later, Streisand is out, and it still doesn’t seem finished.

[castlestreet]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 12:37am

Hollywood is a funny place-had she won the Oscar two years ago like so many thought she would this movie would already be in the can. Regardless of who plays Norma this adaptation has always been a hard sell because of how many people still feel the original movie can never be surpassed no matter who stars, directs, etc.

That being said - it will always be my favorite ALW show and I truly hope we do get a faithful and wonderful movie musical someday...

[Lot666]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 8:28am

Call_me_jorge said: "This video just really made me want David Corenswet as Joe"

I'm not familiar with him, but he's adorable.

 

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 10:47am

I wonder if this might go the way of being produced in a cheaper fashion by one of the streaming services than a studio with Glenn being the biggest name. By peppering the supporting cast with stage vets and not stars it might keep costs down yet still be eligible for Oscar season. Also, Glenn is incredibly wealthy. She was wealthy even before she became a star. She could probably finance this herself. Her parents estate is worth a ton. She also has tons of wealthy and influential business friends. I’m sure she has options.

[jo]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 11:57am

Has Paramount Studio announced this as a film project yet? They own the film rights to the original movie and that was the supposed major reason why the film adaptation of the musical version did not get a foothold.  If I remember correctly, Andrew Lloyd Webber has said that any film project will need Paramount's agreement.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 12:51pm

Bettyboy72 said: "I wonder if this might go the way of being produced in a cheaper fashion by one of the streaming services than a studio with Glenn being the biggest name. By peppering the supporting cast with stage vets and not stars it might keep costs down yet still be eligible for Oscar season. Also, Glenn is incredibly wealthy. She was wealthy even before she became a star. She could probably finance this herself. Her parents estate is worth a ton. She also has tons of wealthy and influential business friends. I’m sure she has options. "

Isn’t paramount/CBS/Viacom starting their own streaming service? Wouldn’t be shocked if this premieres with it.

[briankershawjr]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 3:35pm

Phantom did not bomb as a movie ... it didn’t do as well as they hoped but it did but bomb

Patti Lupone won’t do the role and thanks heaven!!! Glenn is so much better ...

Movie Musicals can’t please everyone ... they never will just enjoy they are making them!!

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 4:36pm

Also, there is de-aging CGI. It was recently used on the Oscar nominated THE IRISHMAN and it was also utilized to make Paul Reubens look 30 years younger as when he originated his Pee Wee Herman character for the Netflix sequel PEE WEE’S BIG HOLIDAY a few years ago.  Streisand also mentioned this technology when her age was mentioned regarding her playing Rose in her much-hoped-for GYPSY remake.  

[wiggum2]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 4:52pm

Musical Master said: "I would love to see Catherine Zeta-Jones as Norma, Chris Pine (whose vocals have improved a lot since Into The Woods) as Joe, ."

I like the idea of Chris Pine, what has he sung lately though?

[David10086]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 7:55pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "Also, thereis de-aging CGI. It was recently used on the Oscar nominated THE IRISHMAN and it was also utilized to make Paul Reubens look 30 years younger as when he originated his Pee Wee Herman character for the Netflix sequel PEE WEE’S BIG HOLIDAY a few years ago. Streisand also mentioned this technology when her age was mentioned regarding her playing Rose in her much-hoped-for GYPSY remake."

I never saw the Pee Wee Herman sequel, but the CGI used in 'The Irishman' was damn frightening - especially on DeNiro. 

As for 'Sunset' there is only one line which mentions her age as being fifty - which can easily be changed to 'seventy' and no one would be any wiser. I do hope this gets on track and gets moving. Close or Streisand - I wouldn't mind either (though Meryl Streep will probably ended up doing it, of course). 

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 8:06pm

David10086 said: "As for 'Sunset' there is only one line which mentions her age as being fifty - which can easily be changed to 'seventy' and no one would be any wiser. I do hope this gets on track and gets moving. Close or Streisand - I wouldn't mind either (though Meryl Streep will probably ended up doing it, of course)."

Except that if she's 70 in 1950 then Max could not have been directing her early pictures when she was "barely 16" as she would have then been in her teens in the 1890s. We would have to believe that Norma was an ingenue when she would have been in her 40s during the height of her career in the 1920s, and realistically wouldn't have made her first movie until she was in her mid-30s.

[Musical Master]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 9:33pm

wiggum2, this Vanity Fair video is from 2017 where Chris was asked on the spot to sing I Will Survive. Wow his warm up high notes are something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ReNebkqJko

Updated On: 4/13/20 at 09:33 PM

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 10:03pm

Here is the de-aging CGI used on 64 year old Paul Reubens in order to make him look like Pee Wee Herman, circa early 1980s, which he played in his early/mid 30s. 

 

[David10086]

Posted: 4/13/20 at 11:30pm

Pee Wees CGI looks great. How did DeNiros go so wrong?

[A Director]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 12:34am

If this movie happens, at least dub in someone who can sing the role.

[darreyl102]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 9:12am

BrodyFosse123 said: "Also, thereis de-aging CGI. It was recently used on the Oscar nominated THE IRISHMAN and it was also utilized to make Paul Reubens look 30 years younger as when he originated his Pee Wee Herman character for the Netflix sequel PEE WEE’S BIG HOLIDAY a few years ago. Streisand also mentioned this technology when her age was mentioned regarding her playing Rose in her much-hoped-for GYPSY remake. "

Yeah the CGI for ' the Irish man' was really bad. But the main problem was you can't make a 70-something year old man move like a young man. Did you watch the fight scene? It was painfully bad. Stumbling around like geriatric Frankenstein

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 9:35am

The character of Norma Desmond is "50" (give or take a few years.) That really is not negotiable if the film is set in 1950 as written -- and this is simply based on the historical timeline of the invention of motion pictures, and what the script says about the character (she was 16 when she made her first film).  As a reference point, the character of Norma is inspired by, most obviously, Gloria Swanson (born 1899) with some hints of Lillian Gish (born 1893) who made her first film with DW Griffith in 1912, when movies truly "were born"

So as a matter of semantics, Norma 'could' be as old as maybe 57, maybe even 60 if they set the film a few years later (1953 is about the last possible year that gels with the story's vision of 'current' Hollywood) but that would be the absolute oldest age the character can be that makes any sense.

But, the debate really isn't about changing Norma's age but about how convincingly Close can play that age on film. I don't think they would feel the need to do much CGI on this kind of project - except perhaps if they showed Norma in flashback.  As has been talked about exhaustively in other threads, the age of fifty on a woman looked different in an era before cosmetic procedures, sunscreen and the limiting of alcohol and cigarettes. I think Close physically can pull off the part on film without a problem. I just feel like there are other actresses who, at this point, would be more exciting in the part and make more sense.  

Updated On: 4/14/20 at 09:35 AM

[MadonnaMusical]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 11:05am

Maybe they’ll film it on an iPhone? lol

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 1:41pm

I don't really see why she would need much CGI. If you look at her during last year's awards season, between makeup and work she's already had done, she could definitely pass for someone in her 50s. But I can imagine the stamina to do a movie musical, especially if they sing it live - which they'd probably have to considering it's not a song-and-dance show - could be pretty taxing. 

[castlestreet]

Posted: 4/14/20 at 3:03pm

I couldn’t agree more with those here who have said the age difference isn’t that big of a deal - Glenn has had good work done, is physically fit and seems like she has taken very good care of herself. Between post-production tweaks to her overall look and some vocal fixing here and there I have zero issues with her finally getting her Norma preserved on film.

My main concern continues to be who is directing, and not feeling the need to change the show in its move to the big screen. The musical is extremely faithful to the movie and only made slight changes here and there. I also hope they resist the urge to cast some pop princess as Betty to boost album downloads and streaming. Her character can be somewhat thankless in less capable hands and never sounded better than when Judy Kuhn played the role.