Nycat63 said: "CT2NYC said: "Unfortunately, I felt the need to engage her on Twitter. Then the daughter got involved, and I had to go at it with her. They're horrible.
"Oh my god did she actually call you a mensch (or as she spells it, "menche" on Twitter thinking that was an insult? LMAO.
She did, and the fact that Ben liked my reply to her about it was all the satisfaction I needed.
froote said: "Well from what I hear the ticket check is how they're doing it and it works fine. Obviously the odd person may manage to sneak through but it's still an improvement."
Weren't they doing that for a while at How to Succeed?
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CT2NYC said: "Nycat63 said: "CT2NYC said: "Unfortunately, I felt the need to engage her on Twitter. Then the daughter got involved, and I had to go at it with her. They're horrible.
"Oh my god did she actually call you a mensch (or as she spells it, "menche" on Twitter thinking that was an insult? LMAO.
She did, and the fact that Ben liked my reply to her about it was all the satisfaction I needed.
Well, I wouldn't call them all terrible. The ones I have been a part of have all been filled with kind, courteous, and theatre-loving people, who aside from getting a selfie or autograph just wanted to congratulate their favorite star on a great performance. Of course, it's more often the horror stories like this that get more attention, and that's really quite unfortunate.
HogansHero said: "this seems like a good time to remind everyone that stage-dooring is a loathsome practice, engaged in by loathsome people.
"I agree that many loathsome people engage in it and ruin a nice opportunity for some who are not loathsome. I don't think stage dooring appropriately in and of itself is loathsome. I've talked with many actors who say they actually love to come out and engage with the fans. One of the actresses in CFA was so grateful for the stagedoor and said "why wouldn't I come out when people are waiting to tell me I'm amazing!" I've been at many very pleasant stagedoors where the actors who did come out seemed happy to be out and everyone behaved appropriately. Sadly that's not true for every show or every generation of fans.
Act sensible/mature and respectful. You've paid your money, seen the show, applauded[hopefully], enjoyed the performance[hopefully], NOW GO HOME or go eat/drink and chat about the performance.
The actors know you love them by the way you responded IN the theatre--they don't need to hear it again OUTSIDE.
I agree with Hogan and Sweet Lips, but I don't want to agree with them, because stage dooring is harmless and no one is forcing anyone to participate in it. I don't think it's a loathsome act, per se, but it's an act that's usually based on loathsome motivations (eg. "I want a picture with this person so I can show everyone that I met them!" ... "I want this person's autograph because it might be valuable one day!", etc.) I don't know, the whole cult of celebrity is icky to me, and that's just the way it is.
These fans who complain about a performed not coming to the stage door should be publicly humiliated and shamed--no! they should be tarred and feathered--but mostly, they should be disallowed to ever attend another theatrical event again until they grow up.
I really do enjoy stage dooring and collecting autographs and signed playbills. It's a shame some people act like this, because more times than not its a harmless and enjoyable way to end a theater day.
Although Ben did not need to respond to that idiotic tweet I truly am so impressed by his classy response.
I can imagine that it truly affected him as he felt the need to tweet his obvious love and compassion for his work and his true fans.A real class act!
How anyone can create such an insulting and unfounded tweet especially after having seen the show where in the second act a family is subjected to cyber-bullying is beyond me!! Words fail........
That horrible woman and her daughter should never be allowed on the island of Manhattan again. I doubt she is a doctor, I doubt she is anything but some crazy in a basement with nothing better to do. No one is ever obligated to stage door, and Ben should never now due to his safety. All the people who insult him are missing the entire point of the show they claim to love so much. Shame.
I don't think that stage-dooring is an inherently awful practice, but the entitlement and mob-mentality that's taking over a lot of these practices (particularly in megahits like Hamilton and DEH) is certainly making it seem like such. Stage-dooring can be a fun bonus, but it's just that: a bonus.
The actors should not be forced to greet every single person in the audience after every show, especially when inconsiderate a-holes just want to sell an autographed playbill, nor are audiences entitled to this practice. In the best scenario when actors happily engage with polite, genuine, and considerate fans, it can truly a wonderful experience for both actors and the audience. When the experience becomes forced and expected, it loses a lot of the magic and the actors are often left far more drained and stressed for future performances.
It has BECOME a loathsome thing and only in the last fifteen years or so. Prior to the popularity of the Internet soaring and Facebook and Twitter and all that crap, you think this was the way it was? It was not. This has turned into something vile and nauseating and since many in this thread seem to do it, I'd just ask why? Why? Given what this has become, why? The fact that even some of the performers spend an additional ten or twenty minutes signing and greeting is unbelievable to me and very gracious of them. They've just given their all in a show - let them go out or go home or go do what they want to do.
When I was a teen and growing up and discovering theater and I saw a great performance, I would go to the stage door where there would be NO ONE. I asked if I could meet whoever had done the performance I'd loved (I didn't do this often, BTW), and I would be taken to their dressing room. They were always warm and gracious, talked to me, and were grateful I'd come back to tell them how much their performance had meant to me. I'm not talking actors today, I'm talking about the likes of Jason Robards, Jr., Tammy Grimes, Joel Grey (pre-Cabaret), Robert Weede, etc. I was the exception then. It could simply not happen now. Those folks loved their fans and could take the time to engage. Now it's just wacko. I always get irritated when I hear about actors who shine on a fan, but that's not at the stage door, that's on the street or in a restaurant or wherever, and something wholly different.
I had no idea how bad it had gotten until I went to see pal Alice Ripley in Next to Normal. I went backstage to say hey and we walked out together and she then spent the next thirty minutes signing, being photographed with people, etc. I honestly don't know how she did it.
As a medical student, I'm so sad to say that there are too many doctors in the country who are like her. Yes, our wonderful profession is one of the hardest and most trying out there, but that doesn't give us permission to act like this. I'm almost beyond words right now, but I do have to promise you guys that, although there are indeed a lot of jerkish doctors out there, not all of them are bad, stuck-up people. It's so unfortunate that this had to go this far.
It was always loathsome. No one thinks it's loathsome when they do it. It is presumptuous, intrusive, assaultive. If I were in charge, it would be a misdemeanor.
PS What do you expect an actor to say?
PS#2 People who talk during shows don't think they are bothering anyone either.
Perhaps a notice could be added to tickets or the confirmation email ...
You have purchased a seat for this production. What you bought begins and ends on the stage.
You have not purchased the right to demand, expect, or otherwise feel owed any of the following ... an autograph, a selfie, an intimate exchange with your favorite performer, a signed Playbill, or a personal recording or video of the show that you can cherish forever.
If any of the above are important to you, we strongly suggest you start your own theatre and finance your own productions because we would prefer that you get your entitled ass out of ours.
Updated On: 7/3/17 at 05:45 PM