2021 Kennedy Center Honors- Page 2

[DramaTeach]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 8:35am

Tag said: “How quickly you forget that Lin got to jump that line!"

Didn’t forget, but he got it because the production as a whole was awarded. He didn’t get it for his general songwriting. Just think there are lots of songwriters who deserve the recognition over some of the current recipients.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 4:18pm

Ke3 said: "Jarethan said: "I don't think I have ever been so underwhelmed by a Kennedy Center Honors list.

I have always liked Debbie Allen, but come on.


Come on, what? She's a 20 time Emmy nominee, she's been nominated for two Tonys, has a Golden Globe, was the lead producer + director on one of the most popular Black sitcoms of all time. She was also the lead choreographer on Fame. Many attributed the success of the 1986 revival of 'Sweet Charity' to her performance. It didn't last long after her exit. If all of that isn't enough to deserve a Kennedy Center Honor, I don't know what is. Especially looking at some past nominees who haven't been half as multifaceted."

I strongly disagree.  There are countless people deserving more than her...and remember: I have always liked DA, just as I always liked Carol Channing, who never got one and IMO shouldn’t have had to.  There are a lot of wonderful people who to me do not quite reach the Kennedy Center level, and she is one of them.

[JGPR2]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 6:32pm

If you have Paul McCartney, members of Led Zepplin and Roger Daltry and Pete Townsend of The Who, how do you not honor Mick Jagger? I don't believe Glenn Close has been honored and I think she deserves it.

[Dollypop]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 7:39pm

Carol Channing should get this award posthumously

[Dollypop]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 7:47pm

Call_me_jorge said: "I’m excited for Dick Van Dykes tribute performance. Hope they get Gavin Lee to do a segment from Mary Poppins"

I 'd be even happier if the got Charlie Stemp to do a scene from POPPINS. He's starring in the show now in London.

[uncageg]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 8:06pm

JGPR2 said: "If you have Paul McCartney, members of Led Zepplinand Roger Daltry and Pete Townsend of The Who, how do you not honor Mick Jagger? I don't believe Glenn Close has been honored and I think she deserves it."

I would throw Pink Floyd in there also with Jagger and The Stones. And Bowie. (Didn't see him on the list unless I missed it)

Regarding Allen, I feel she sure has reached the Kennedy Center level. But they do really need to get Liza and Channing honored also.

 

Updated On: 1/27/21 at 08:06 PM

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 1/27/21 at 8:20pm

They don’t posthumously honor so Channing won’t ever be honored.

As has been mentioned previously, Jane Fonda is certainly deserving, but I’m guessing she’s still viewed as too controversial or she has declined.

[A Director]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 2:53am

Please explain in detail why Liza should be honored.

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 9:37am

A Director said: "Please explain in detail why Liza should be honored."

I mean, Liza Minnelli is the textbook definition of show business. Her mother is (you can argue...and I will) the greatest female entertainer of 20th Century. Her father was a very successful stage designer and film director. Liza carved out a space for herself away from the light of her parents, although her and her mother's lives have been parallel multiple times. She is *technically an EGOT winner (The Grammy was non competitive, but a Grammy Legend Award). Since the height of her popularity in the 1960/1970/1980's, she has reinvented herself with multiple times or has shown a range that isn't usually seen (ie. her album produced/created with The Pet Shop Boys, Arrested Development). She has become an icon for not only Broadway, but the LGBTQ+ community. The image of her as Sally Bowls in Cabaret, as become so iconic that many people can identify either her of the film from just an image, and still today there are performers who are recreating that image. Like many others on the list of Kennedy Centre honourees, when so many others have left this world and are forgotten, Liza Minnelli will be a name that is still talked about. 

[Kad]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 10:31am

A Director said: "Please explain in detail why Liza should be honored."

The Kennedy Center Honors "celebrates the contributions and careers of artists who have left an indelible mark on our shared American culture and character."

I don't see how anyone could argue that Liza has not done that, as fashionguru demonstrates above.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 1:24pm

re Liza, everyone can (and has) come up with all sorts of substantive reasons but there are also procedural reasons she would not get the award. First and foremost, she may have said no (maybe just once and that's enough, or maybe more than once). Bear in mind that you have to commit to show up. That's why there are no posthumous awards. Now yes, exigent circumstances may keep you from coming and they don't take it back if you can't show (hence, the sole posthumous award), but it seems completely and reasonably possible to me that Liza was asked and said no. (I don't know, but that's what I have always thought when the subject has come up.)

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 1:28pm

Sometimes I wonder,with her health issues,if she's not able to travel?

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 1/28/21 at 9:52pm

Is it also true that Joni Mitchell has not been honored?

Updated On: 1/28/21 at 09:52 PM

[morosco]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 1:30am

Based on the following two performances alone, Leslie Uggams certainly deserves a Kennedy Center Honor.

Being Good Isn't Good Enough (Hallelujah, Baby!)

If He Walked Into My Life (Mame)

And she was an absolutely charming guest twice on Stars in the House:

June is bustin' out all over with Leslie Uggams! | Stars In The House, Monday, June 1, 2020

It's June! June! June! with Leslie Uggams | Stars in the House, June 1, 2021



 

[Tom5]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 2:28am

The Kennedy Center Honors should follow the example of the John F. Kennedy Profile In Courage Award and give it only to a single individual. A few more deserving would be missed but the award would have the greatest possible impact and meaning.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 10:00am

Miles2Go2 said: "I was wondering if Olivia Newton-John has ever been honored. I know she’s pretty white bread and hasn’t had notable output for decades, but she was a very solid chart performer in the 70s & 80s. I suppose it’s because my teenage closeted self was obsessed with her and I still hold much fondness towards her. Plus she made her major film debut in a giant hit movie and it can be said she set the blueprint for country crossover/pop artists that would follow.

That also got me wondering about John Travolta. Questionable religious beliefs put to the side, he is certainly deserving."

I would love for Olivia Newton-John to receive this honor. She definitely meets their criteria:

The Kennedy Center Honors "celebrates the contributions and careers of artists who have left an indelible mark on our shared American culture and character."

[StardustsChild]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 12:07pm

uncageg said: "JGPR2 said: "If you have Paul McCartney, members of Led Zepplinand Roger Daltry and Pete Townsend of The Who, how do you not honor Mick Jagger? I don't believe Glenn Close has been honored and I think she deserves it."

I would throw Pink Floyd in there also with Jagger and The Stones. And Bowie. (Didn't see him on the list unless I missed it)

Regarding Allen, I feel she sure has reached the Kennedy Center level. But they do really need to get Liza and Channinghonored also.

"

Bowie turned it down during his "absence from public life" period in the 00's. 

[Dolly80]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 12:53pm

Debbie Allen should have be banned from getting this purely for that awful Dolly Parton Netflix Xmas movie did.

Dick Van Dyke utterly deserves this. What a legend.

Liza should absolutely have this, and Betty White.
They may need to get a move on and sort this out while both are still around.

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 6/6/21 at 3:51pm

Especially Betty. She's over 99.

[bwaydreamer]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 11:39am

The Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Allen tributes last night were so underwhelming.  We deserve so much better than Ariana Debose who is a good dancer but has a mediocre singing voice AT BEST and zero star power.  Vanessa Hudgens should not have even been included and Aaron Tveit is fine but they couldn't get Gavin Lee or Gavin Creel??  Ugh it was hard to watch at moments. 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 2:45pm

Agreed about the performances for Van Dyke. Derek Hough made his performance a showcase just for himself. Bad lip-syncing and all.

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 2:51pm

Despite living in Oklahoma, I’m neither a country music aficionado nor a big Garth Brooks fan, but I thought his segment was the best. They truly saved the best for last with Gladys Knight. By the way, has she been honored?

[Trish2]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 4:48pm

bwaydreamer said: "The Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Allen tributes last night were so underwhelming. We deserve so much better than Ariana Debose who is a good dancer but has a mediocre singing voice AT BEST and zero star power. Vanessa Hudgens should not have even been included and Aaron Tveit is fine but they couldn't get Gavin Lee or Gavin Creel?? Ugh it was hard to watch at moments."

bwaydreamer - I'm with you on the issue of Debose's star power. While she was a good dancer in Hamilton, fine as Donna Summer, and ok in The Prom, she's never radiated star power for me. It's even more evident now, given that her manager/agents have her doing any tv gig, no matter the role, that comes along. I imagine they're getting her in front of the public eye before WSS comes out - but nothing she's done since heading out West has hit the mark for me. The hosting gig, dancing in ensembles, etc. On last nights Kennedy Center honors, my focus went to Vivian Nixon and Tiler Peck. Spielberg obviously sees something special in her. Maybe she'll enlighten us in WSS?

Now Adrienne Warren on the other hand......

[bwaydreamer]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 5:58pm

Trish2 said: "bwaydreamer said: "The Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Allen tributes last night were so underwhelming. We deserve so much better than Ariana Debose who is a good dancer but has a mediocre singing voice AT BEST and zero star power. Vanessa Hudgens should not have even been included and Aaron Tveit is fine but they couldn't get Gavin Lee or Gavin Creel?? Ugh it was hard to watch at moments."

bwaydreamer - I'm with you on the issue of Debose's star power. While she was a good dancer in Hamilton, fine asDonna Summer, and ok in The Prom, she'sneverradiated star power for me. It's even more evident now, given that her manager/agents have her doing any tv gig, no matter the role, that comes along. I imagine they're getting her in front ofthe public eye before WSS comes out - but nothing she's done since heading out West has hit the mark for me. The hosting gig,dancing in ensembles, etc. On last nights Kennedy Center honors, my focus went to Vivian Nixon and Tiler Peck. Spielberg obviously sees something special in her. Maybe she'll enlighten us in WSS?

Now Adrienne Warren on the other hand...... "

EXACTLY. Adrienne Warren has star power to spare!  Or even use someone like Karen Olivo who also has tons of star power.  

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 6/7/21 at 6:09pm

I am in the minority in that I thought Debose did great. Also, one is assuming that these other performers would have been interested and/or available. Olivo in particular has made it clear that her priorities lie elsewhere right now.