Ben Brantley Steps Down- Page 2

[Wick3]

Posted: 9/11/20 at 4:15pm

I’m guessing next time he goes to the theatre he’ll have to pay for a ticket versus getting a media comp from the producers.

[Phantom of London]

Posted: 9/11/20 at 5:00pm

MadonnaMusical said: "Phantom of London said: "Surprising news.

I wonder if he left under his own accord? He could have just picked up his pay checks for another 6 months, before theatre, is likely to start again in March. So the timing of his departure makes no sense?

However the position isn’t what it was and wasn’t a sure fire ticket seller for a rave like Frank Rich, we saw this with the early demise of Bright Star and Groundhog Day despite both being raves.

It is also worth noting that the position is /was the powernot the person, when Clive Barnes left for the New York Post his reviews didn’t hold the weight they did with the Times, despite the same faculties at the show.

I wish Ben well and have enjoyed reading his reviews over the years, a person who had a genuine love forthe genre."

There is no way he left of his own accord. In this economy?!?! It’s much more likely that his services are no longer needed due to the lack of actual theatre."

I think he didn’t walk, so hence if he was let go then he would be a staff writer and not a freelancer. If he planned to retire he could’ve just waited out for another year, not doing much and have another year on his pension. Makes no sense for Ben to retire now on his own accord, but very much hope to be wrong.

[uncageg]

Posted: 9/11/20 at 8:34pm

Wick3 said: "I’m guessing next time he goes to the theatre he’ll have to pay for a ticket versus getting a media comp from the producers."

Which he can probably afford to do and won't mind doing.

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 1:39am

Seems like the right time. I’m excited to see who they get to replace him. A woman of color would be great.

I’ll always remember his incredible pan for THE LITTLE MERMAID.

[fredric47]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 9:21am

I am overjoyed that Ben Brantley is leaving "The New York Times." He should never have been their drama critic in the first place. He writes unintelligible reviews where his opinion always gets lost in his sentence structure.

The only downside about getting a replacement for Ben Brantley is that once again I must face the fact that it won't be me. I have spent my entire life aspiring to becoming  one of the drama critics for "The Times." However, since I don't have the illustrious credits that this most prestigeous newspaper requires, I will be considered inelligible.

I graduated from Syracuse University's Newhouse School of Communications with a dual major in newspaper and radio-TV journalism in 1973. While attending Syracuse, I was the Entertainment Editor for the weekly pennysaver newspaper, "The Syracuse New Times," I spent the summer following my graduation working for Gannett Newspapers in Saratoga Springs, NY as a general assignment reporter who covered the performing arts.

But after this experience, I only did occasional writing but enormous dreaming of becoming a scribe for "The New York TImes" Arts and Leisure Section. I subscribe to the on-line edition of the newspaper and try to read several of the leading theatre and show business publications on line every day. But I haven't written much over the past 47 years since I graduated from Syracuse University.

The moral of my life is to dream less and to write more.

[LarryD2]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 9:21am

Wick3 said: "Even though he doesn’t work for NYT anymore, do you think he has enough of a following or influence where if he continues to review shows on his own and post them on his own website or blog or something, people would read it?"

His retirement announcement stated that he would still occasionally contribute to the Times, though I imagine it likely won't be as a regular reviewer. I would guess he'll write essays or profiles from time to time. The actual size of his influence as divorced from his position remains to be seen. People in the industry still talk about Frank Rich constantly, nearly 30 years after he stopped being a theater critic. Charles Isherwood, on the other hand, is all but forgotten already. 

Brantley held the chief theater critic job for a quarter century, which is practically unheard of, and he would have been able to keep it as long as he wanted. I highly doubt we'll see him starting his own blog or working for some smaller outlet when he could have just continued on in the country's most powerful theater-critic job. What sense would that make?

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 10:54am

I will miss his reviews and even when I did not agree enjoyed reading them. I wish him well.

[uncageg]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 11:26am

I wish Theater Talk was still around. He would have been a nice addition to that panel.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 2:50pm

They need to hire a woman. Preferably a WOC but at the very least a woman. 

Brantley is still capable of taking delicious jabs at productions or choices that deserved the derision. Flat acting, lazy writing, baffling scenic design. He wrote some of the best pans. But he would also take some weird shots at female characters, actresses, shows for a teen girl demographic, etc. that I'm surprised got past the editors in these supposedly PC times. 

[MollyJeanneMusic]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 5:40pm

VintageSnarker said: "They need to hire a woman. Preferably a WOC but at the very least a woman.

Brantley is still capable of taking delicious jabs at productions or choices that deserved the derision. Flat acting, lazy writing, baffling scenic design. He wrote some of the best pans. But he would also take some weird shots at female characters, actresses, shows for a teen girl demographic, etc. that I'm surprised got past the editors in these supposedly PC times."

I still can't totally get over his comment in the Head Over Heels review making a joke out of the transgender and nonbinary characters in the show - even if it was a "reference," as he said in his apology, it's not as though the reference was well-known enough at that point for anyone to get it - and even in that context, it still sounded like a jab at the characters' identities.  As for who should replace him, my vote is for Diep Tran, an incredible writer who happens to be a woman of color.

[Eddie3]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 8:06pm

Brantley did a reasonable job, but the late great Mel Gussow should have got the gig in the first place.  I don't think Jesse Green is up to the task. To some extent, in the age of "everyone's a critic," the job is not that necessary any more. 

 

[uncageg]

Posted: 9/12/20 at 10:33pm

Eddie3 said: "Brantley did a reasonable job, but the late great Mel Gussow should have got the gigin the first place. I don't think Jesse Green is up to the task. To some extent, in the age of "everyone's a critic," the job is not that necessary any more.

 

I agree regarding Jesse Green. I really enjoyed him on Theater Talk but don't care for him as a critic for the Times.

"

 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 9/13/20 at 8:26am

"They need to hire a woman. Preferably a WOC but at the very least a woman."

I thought Elisabeth Vincentelli already works for NY Times and does limited reviews. Previously, she had done reviews while at the NY Post.

[raddersons]

Posted: 10/13/20 at 7:34pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/theater/ben-brantley-retirement.html

Ben Brantley talks stepping down.

Updated On: 10/13/20 at 07:34 PM

[LarryD2]

Posted: 10/15/20 at 2:59pm

Brantley is as anodyne as a critic can be -- always has been -- but because he writes for the Times, he's engendered his fair share of animosity from the theater community. (Of course, said community has never adequately considered its own stake in elevating the supremacy of the Times.) If his replacement is indeed a woman of color, I think it will be harder for the theater community to get away with the unfounded attacks that have often been lobbed at Brantley, lest they be pegged as sexist and racist.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 10/15/20 at 4:48pm

LarryD2 said: "Brantley is as anodyne as a critic can be -- always has been -- but because he writes for the Times, he's engendered his fair share of animosity from the theater community. (Of course, said community has never adequately considered its own stake in elevating the supremacy of the Times.) If his replacement is indeed a woman of color, I think it will be harder for the theater community to get away with the unfounded attacks that have often been lobbed at Brantley, lest they be pegged as sexist and racist."

I think you overstate mightily what you call "animosity from the theater community." Yes of course people who get bad reviews lash out, but those who are the beneficiary of those reviews embrace. To suggest, as you seem to be doing, that the theatre community speaks with one voice is laughable. I am also not sure what "unfounded attacks" you are referring to. Perhaps you'd like to explain. And regarding being "pegged" as anything, again, this is not one unified community on anything, but particularly as the theatre as a whole is making a dramatic shift toward inclusivity, this strikes me as a little tone deaf. I confess I am having trouble understanding where you are coming from, but I am curious to hear a clearer explanation...

[stee]

Posted: 10/16/20 at 6:37pm

Link: https://www.nytco.com/press/moves-in-culture/

"Nicole Herrington will be taking over as theater editor.  

Nicole will be moving into a new role as theater editor. A University of Rhode Island graduate, Nicole came to The Times in 2005 from The Miami Herald and joined Culture two years later. Since September 2017, Nicole has helmed our print Weekend section, which she has distinguished through an emphasis on New York City-based service as well as inventive annual pieces like our Labor Day feature on behind-the-scenes culture workers.

Weekend has long been the home for so much of our film, art and theater criticism, and one of the joys of the job for Nicole has been the ability to indulge heavily in each of those artforms. But anyone who has spent even a small amount of time going out to see theater here became used to seeing Nicole at Broadway, Off Broadway and Off Off Broadway shows. That was partly because she would often edit our theater critics, but largely because she simply loves the theater. “In the best circumstances,” she said, “a production can challenge your assumptions about life, the world and your place in it.”

In addition to her week-to-week work, Nicole has participated in some of our most ambitious cultural journalism. In March, right as the pandemic forced us to begin to work from home, we published a project that she had been leading for over a year — “The African-American Art Shaping the 21st Century,” in which 35 artists made the case for which Black-created works had been the most important, influential and inspiring for them. Alongside our stellar theater reporter, she spoke with four major young Black playwrights about how their works were challenging the American theater scene.

[KingOfTheMine]

Posted: 12/10/20 at 10:42am

According to Twitter, Maya Phillips is now a permanent critic at large at the NY Times. Congrats Maya! Glad to see more diverse critics!

https://twitter.com/mayabphillips/status/1337052026589548544?s=19

[Phantom of London]

Posted: 12/10/20 at 9:36pm

Great to see the appointment is a BAME Woman. Following what the Guardian has done with Arifa Akbar.

There you have the 2 most powerful critics in the world.

Updated On: 12/10/20 at 09:36 PM

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 8/17/22 at 7:29pm

For those who've missed Ben's thoughts on theatre, Peter Marks (his close friend) and Elisabeth Vincentelli did a really wonderful hourlong interview with him on their podcast. I find his passion for theatre to be infectious, and it comes out even more in his speaking than his writing.

This and his recent "reasons to love theatre" Tweets make me wish he would write a book.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 8/17/22 at 9:21pm

Wow, I completely didn’t realize Marks and Vincentelli had a new podcast. I was a loyal listener of Three on the Aisle, and would’ve happily continued listening to them if I had known this whole time. Well, glad I know now! I guess I have a backlog to catch up on!