In that Rudin never wanted the Winter Garden. But wanted the Shubert the flagship in the Shubert organisation. However the stumbling block is Mockingbird and who would have thought a play would run so long in a big theatre. So Rudin has a lovely problem. His own show doing much better than expected.
Mockingbird would have run just shy of 2 years, by the time The Music Man opened in a large theatre and survived original cast changes as well
RippedMan said: "It does seem odd that it's just sitting there in all its glory and not used. Maybe ATG could talk to them? It just seems a waste. A church doesn't need a theater like that."
I reckon the Times Square Church grosses more than most Broadway houses.
As pointed out earlier in this thread the Mark Hellinger Theatre the legendary venue of My Fair Lady and Jesus Christ Superstar was sold by the Nederlanders to the Times Square Church because they couldn’t get a tenant in the 1980’s.
Why can’t the Mark Hellinger Church be both a church and theatre? I mean the church use it on Sunday morning, then it can convert back to a theatre the rest of the week? It’s not like the church is catholic, where they bel
JBroadway said: "Phantom of London said:“part of the judgement at the time by NYC they cannot build anymore theatre. This included the operating the Minskoff and Marquis which Gerald Schonefeld said in his book was ‘unfair’.
Maybe it’s time for NYC to cut the Shuberts some slack and allow them to compete again?"
Memory a bit hazy on this, read this a while back. But in the 1950s Shuberts had a virtual monopoly on Times Squar
It shows how much Shuberts Organization is handicapped by lack of mid size houses, they have 5 and you really could say 4 as the Majestic isn’t going to come free anytime soon. They were forced to sell the St James many years back and part of the judgement at the time by NYC they cannot build anymore theatre. This included the operating the Minskoff and Marquis which Gerald Schonefeld said in his book was ‘unfair’.
With both all 5 big Shubert houses tied up, along with all the Jujamcyn houses, these are the default houses that Scott Rudin uses, when he cannot get a Shubert house. The Music Man needs to go somewhere or people are going to be disappointed, so wonder if Rudin would be tempted to take the Lyric instead?
If not Disney’s Beauty and the Beast which I agree would be Inspired and would be perfect in there, like The Lion King is in the the similar theatre the Minskoff.
However the London’s revival of Disney’s Mary Poppins has just received stunning reviews and better notices than the original, mainly due to Charle Stemp who you might remember from Hello Dolly as the polymath Bert, that could easily do well there too.
The producers need to be smart and savvy, by which I mean by bringing the opening forward to May, at least they then stand a reasonable chance of making the Tony cut off.
Wow haven’t Harry Potter grosses dropped considerably? I hear on here you can bag an orchestra seat for $40 bucks, okay the show still sells out, but it is the average ticket price which keeps a Broadway show alive.
One of the most expensive shows to put on and I believe it capitalised at $37m, which included a massive multi million dollar pay off to the Cirque du Soleil, which I would suggest was a show that was about to close anyway?
DoTheDood said: "Not to distract from tour grosses (honestly fascinating discussion), but the title has made me think is there a way to view off-Broadway grosses? This could probably be a thread of it's own but it fits the title. I'm super curious about well Little Shop will be doing once performances start this month."
Great point - what are the Off-Broadway grosses Like then?
itsjustmejonhotmailcom said: "Phantom of London said: "As I have heard several times in the past, Broadway is where the money is made and lost.
However we get Broadway Grosses each week which is brilliant, but how much money does a show make on the road?
Generally theatres on tour can be much bigger than Broadway houses, sometimes double or treble the size.The Equity contract may be different and lot less pay than Broadway? On the down side you have to
As I have heard several times in the past, Broadway is where the money is made and lost.
However we get Broadway Grosses each week which is brilliant, but how much money does a show make on the road?
Generally theatres on tour can be much bigger than Broadway houses, sometimes double or treble the size. The Equity contract may be different and lot less pay than Broadway? On the down side you have to move the show every week or two or if you are a massive show like Hamilton
