Who is replacing Olivo?- Page 5

[Zion24]

Posted: 8/3/21 at 10:47pm

Dolly80 said: "JDonaghy4 said: "legit never heard of her, which is great. never understood why they'd want a Name when the show has been selling out without any.

heres hoping she can make it through the horribly toxic racist environment that Olivo was forced to flee from. i cant wait to see her."

What are you on about?

I’m sure they are pretty delighted to be getting such a fabulous new Satine."

say whaaa? We are meant to believe Olivo left Moulin Rouge because of the toxic, horrible environment on Broadway. She was applauded for this sentiment, as if it was her reality, so it strikes me as funny that now another woman of color is stepping into the role and it doesnt seem to be a concern anymore.

Dont see how you think I am suggesting anyone isnt thrilled for Mendoza to be joining.

[binau]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 6:05am

Well I don’t want to open THAT can of worms again but I think there are reasonable arguments for multiple reasons why she left the show.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 11:43am

I don't believe she left because Moulin Rouge wa a horribly toxic racist environment, but that her reference was about the industry as a whole.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 11:59am

Exactly. She happens to like her comfortable life in middle America. I wish her the best, what a talent.

[Zion24]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 3:24pm

Sutton Ross said: "Exactly. She happens to like her comfortable life in middle America. I wish her the best, what a talent."

shes is an incredible actress (ive never gotten the appeal of her voice but i know im in the minority on that), but from Mimi to Anita to BTW Vera Stark, shes got skillz. But she didnt leave the show to enjoy life in the Midwest (i mean she did, but she claimed that wasn't the reason). Come on.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 3:33pm

"i mean she did"

That's correct. And "law professors" such as yourself capitalize the word "I". 

[Zion24]

Posted: 8/4/21 at 10:58pm

Sutton Ross said: ""i mean she did"

That's correct. And "law professors" such as yourself capitalize the word "I"."

you'd be shocked to learn apparently that like all other people in the world, those in the legal field chat on message boards and text our friends less formally than when we're at our jobs or writing stuff for serious publication. 

[Dolly80]

Posted: 8/5/21 at 12:15am

JDonaghy4 said: "Dolly80 said: "JDonaghy4 said: "legit never heard of her, which is great. never understood why they'd want a Name when the show has been selling out without any.

heres hoping she can make it through the horribly toxic racist environment that Olivo was forced to flee from. i cant wait to see her."

What are you on about?

I’m sure they are pretty delighted to be getting such a fabulous new Satine."

say whaaa? We are meant to believe Olivo left Moulin Rouge because of the toxic, horrible environment on Broadway. She was applauded for this sentiment, as if it was her reality, so it strikes me as funny that now another woman of color is stepping into the role and it doesnt seem to be a concern anymore.

Dont see how you think I am suggesting anyone isnt thrilled for Mendoza to be joining."


 

have I missed something? I’m pretty sure she left because of Broadways silence over the Scott Rudin situation- not a toxic environment on Moulin. If anything, I’ve heard from people involved that it’s a very happy (and clearly diverse) company. 

Updated On: 8/5/21 at 12:15 AM

[suicidalmickeymouse]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 10:54pm

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Video-MOULIN-ROUGE-Stars-Aaron-Tveit-and-Natalie-Mendoza-Perform-Come-What-May-at-the-US-Open-20210830

Thoughts? Personally I was hoping for a little more in the vocals dept, but I’ll reserve judgement until I see the show on 9/25.

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 11:14pm

So I would definitely agree I was hoping for more depth in the vocals. But I guess they still have some time for work. 

I expected more from Natalie and honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady. I watched it and was like um its like they are singing this as awkward high schoolers. (Truth be told I think he has more chemistry with Gavin Creel in AHS... maybe call Gavin up see if he's available for Satine.) unfortunately  I definitely would not say that Aaron is giving a "best Actor in a musical" performance in this role. And that's coming from a fan of his work.

[JGPR2]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 11:25pm

"I expected more from Natalie and honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady"

I would give them both a break tonight, this was not exactly a great environment to show chemistry in a role. They come out to sing one song in the biggest tennis stadium in the world and in front of a crowd that probably does not care too much about Broadway for the most part. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 12:15am

Theatrefanboy1 said: "So I would definitely agree I was hoping for more depth in the vocals. But I guess they still have some time for work.

I expected more from Natalie and honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady. "

oh lordy

[Dolly80]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 1:54am

To be fair this whole performance was awkward. A half filled arena , everyone there to watch tennis, not some actors sing.
I don’t know who thought this was a good idea but they should be fired.

Vocally she was underwhelming, but she is truly gorgeous and I can’t wait to see her in the show.

[jo]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 3:02am

JGPR2 said: ""I expected more from Natalie and honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady"

I would give them both a break tonight, this was not exactly a great environment to show chemistry in a role. They come out to sing one song in the biggest tennis stadium in the world and in front of a crowd that probably does not care too much about Broadway for the most part."

Too bad Rafa Nadal has withdrawn due to injury issues. He has always publicly said how he likes watching Broadway shows when he plays at the US Open in NYC.

Also, the choice of song and performance does not suit that audience. Maybe something more rousing or more spectacular and maybe attuned to that kind of market. Btw, I am a tennis fan and follow most of the matches if I can.

 

[Philly Theater Girl]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 6:49am

JGPR2 said: ""I expected more from Natalie and honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady"

I would give them both a break tonight, this was not exactly a great environment to show chemistry in a role. They come out to sing one song in the biggest tennis stadium in the world and in front of a crowd that probably does not care too much about Broadway for the most part."

I agree - give them a break, they were performing on a tennis court. I thought the Lady M's performance was just as awkward. They sounded fine but it really wasn't the environment for a Broadway performance. It's funny how people always seem to call out Aaron for a lack of chemistry, it goes both ways. Why not say Natalie didn't have much chemistry w/her leading man? I'm reserving judgement until they perform together in the show.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 7:44am

Theatrefanboy1 said: "honestly is it just me or does Aaron once again seem to have like not one iota of chemistry with his leading lady."

Not just you. It doesn't even seem awkward, just totally flat. I'd be more forgiving if this didn't seem like the exact performance he gave with Olivo. I think this is his interpretation of the song and its unchangeable. Maybe he's going for a High School Musical sort of gentle happiness and not exuberance or determination or any grand passion but if he is, it's a bad choice.

[JGPR2]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 9:06am

"Too bad Rafa Nadal has withdrawn due to injury issues. He has always publicly said how he likes watching Broadway shows when he plays at the US Open in NYC. Also, the choice of song and performance does not suit that audience. Maybe something more rousing or more spectacular and maybe attuned to that kind of market. Btw, I am a tennis fan and follow most of the matches if I can."

Rada will be missed and so will Federer. On the women's side, very strange not having Williams sister in the tournament.

I agree, choice of song was not good. In that arena, you need something rousing like you stated !!

Updated On: 8/31/21 at 09:06 AM

[JGPR2]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 9:14am

"To be fair this whole performance was awkward. A half filled arena , everyone there to watch tennis, not some actors sing. I don’t know who thought this was a good idea but they should be fired."

Granted US Open crowd for the most part is not really target audience for Broadway but I would say any publicity is good publicity.  ESPN also mentioned the show quite a few times during the broadcasts yesterday. 

[WldKingdomHM]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 9:30am

The problem is Aaron is not sexy ….

[unclevictor]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 9:51am

WldKingdomHM said: "The problem is Aaron is not sexy …."

AGREED. And 0 charisma. It’s odd how some actors with talent and charisma remain in the ensemble forever, and actors like Tveit somehow break out. He must have a good agent. 

[bwaylady3]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 9:56am

Not sexy?  Your opinion...but I think you are in the minority there. 

As for Natalie, I think nerves got the best of her last night and expect she will be much improved once the show starts in a few weeks.  Having been there, that's a daunting place to make your debut with the few weeks of rehearsal she's had. The acoustics are challenging, the crowd is still funneling in (which is distracting as heck), and oh yeah, you're doing it on national tv. I also don't think they were asked to "act out" the scene but perform the song to the space while also following whatever covid protocol they were given so let's table the chemistry comments for now.  We don't know if the spacing was intentional but it seems that way.  

I was just happy to see my two favorite things (tennis and Broadway) share a stage. 

[jo]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 11:06am

WldKingdomHM said: "The problem is Aaron is not sexy …."

I've seen Aaron in Catch Me If You Can & Moulin Rouge -- and both times, I expected him to be much more impressive with his presence. But he was bland!

On the other hand - I thought he was very good as Enjolras in the film adaptation of Les Miserables.  Was it his hairstyle...or that he got to play an angry young man?

 

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 11:40am

jo said: "WldKingdomHM said: "The problem is Aaron is not sexy …."

I've seen Aaron in Catch Me If You Can & Moulin Rouge -- and both times, I expected him to be much more impressive with his presence. But he was bland!

On the other hand - I thought he was very good as Enjolras in the film adaptation of Les Miserables. Was it his hairstyle...or that he got to play an angry young man?

"

I completely agree. As Enjolras I really found him to be one of the real stars of it. I was very impressed. And even in N2N where I was first introduced to him. Was it that he didn't really have to interact with anyone? But I mean yes, he's attractive, and sings well. But I'm also wondering does he take himself too serious now.  I don't know.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 12:03pm

It was fine. They probably didn't want to make it overly sapping out of context, so in a sense Natalie was doing the right thing singing it straight. Just someone forgot to tell Aaron to bring it down a level.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/31/21 at 12:47pm

WldKingdomHM said: "The problem is Aaron is not sexy …."