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Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
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#25Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/1/22 at 10:58am
ljay889 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: "Never thought I’d say it, but I miss Ben Brantley."
Me too. At least when Brantley hated something he did it with snark and humor. Green is just plain bland."
And Frank Rich.
#26Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/1/22 at 11:06am
From didtheylikeit.com
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#27Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/1/22 at 11:07am
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"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
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#28Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/1/22 at 12:18pm
Isn't it awful when people have different opinions about a piece of art and the audacity to express them?
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#30Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/1/22 at 12:38pm
MemorableUserName said: "Isn't it awful when people have different opinions about a piece of art and the audacity to express them?"
Yeah, and we are allowed to express our opinions on Green’s reviews and other writing. It’s a two-way street, particularly when Green is, y’know, a public figure regularly published in the foremost paper in the country.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#31Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 9:51am
https://twitter.com/etaibenson/status/1477853927223799808
https://twitter.com/etaibenson/status/1477854329126141957
Thank you Etai Benson.
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#32Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 10:09am
CATSNYrevival said: "https://twitter.com/etaibenson/status/1477853927223799808
https://twitter.com/etaibenson/status/1477854329126141957
Thank you Etai Benson."
Jesse Green doesn't work for the Company PR team. It's not his job to paint a rosy picture with a banal human interest story.
#33Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 10:11am
I saw the show last night and I found it to be an inventive, fun, and engaging update of a 50 year old musical and, honestly, Jesse Green should really just shut up.
This show could’ve just been a stuffy rehash of the original show and he probably would’ve railed it for being “out of place and out dated”.
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#34Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 11:04am
'Jesse Green doesn't work for the Company PR team. It's not his job to paint a rosy picture with a banal human interest story.'
Reporting on any aspect of the unprecedented existential crisis facing Broadway is not banal.
Complaining about the set of a Broadway musical as the industry faces this crisis is the height of tone deaf fiddling.
#35Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 11:19am
SonofRobbieJ said: "'Jesse Green doesn't work for theCompanyPR team. It's not his job to paint a rosy picture with a banal human interest story.'
Reporting on any aspect of the unprecedented existential crisis facing Broadway is not banal.
Complaining about the set of a Broadway musical as the industry faces this crisis is the height of tone deaf fiddling."
Exactly.
#36Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 1:05pm
quizking101 said: "I saw the show last night and I found it to be an inventive, fun, and engaging update of a 50 year old musical and, honestly, Jesse Green should really just shut up."
I’ll drink to that!
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#37Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/3/22 at 1:56pm
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "quizking101 said: "I saw the show last night and I found it to be an inventive, fun, and engaging update of a 50 year old musical and, honestly, Jesse Green should really just shut up."
I’ll drink to that!"
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#38Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/6/22 at 3:07pm
Kad said: "It's a bafflingly negative piece for a year-end look back, "
Green's piece didn't in any way strike me as a year-end look back, which seems especially true now that they did post an actual look back piece yesterday, with Green and Phillips discussing what they'd seen over the past few months. For those who wanted the Times to post a woman's opinion and/or anyone but Green's, Phillips weighed in (though I realize she is subject to just as much scorn by many around here).
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/theater/live-theater-critics-debate.html
"PHILLIPS That is difficult! I admire that you stuck to your guns there, especially because I think a lot of people went in expecting to enjoy it because of the cast, because of the reputation of the show, and of course because Stephen Sondheim died this fall. With “Company,” you had context I didn’t have going in. I’d heard the songs and knew the story, but this was my first time seeing the show. And yet again, I agreed with your points, especially about the elaborate set overwhelming the content, but found the gender swap, with some small exceptions, more interesting and relevant. There were definitely some awkward lyric changes, but I thought the way the dialogue was changed and how the characters’ relationships with a now-female Bobbie changed created fresh tension that worked. And I found it refreshing to see a female lead who might be passive and aloof, yes, but is able to own that — and the fact that she’s single — in a way that a man can in society. It’s much more rare to see that kind of female character, and I loved Katrina Lenk’s performance."
Perhaps also relevant:
GREEN ... But that’s what it means to accept that theater, like all experience, is subjective, and therefore so is criticism. You’re going to hurt sometimes. People have told me — most recently at a funeral! — that they dislike my reviews because they’re “so mean.” When I engage those people further, it often turns out that it’s not the supposed meanness but the disagreement itself that makes them angry. Some people just can’t be happy unless everyone loves “Diana, the Musical” and “Flying Over Sunset,” to name two shows I didn’t — and you didn’t, either. Do you get that?
PHILLIPS I do get that! But more so on Twitter, with random internet trolls, and more so with fandoms other than theater. I often am seen as a curmudgeon or contrarian by my family and friends, but then when they read my reviews they always tell me I’m fair. Sometimes it is fun to be the one with the controversial opinion. But I’m interested in discourse; disagreement is just part of the job, and we need it. We’re not the same people with the same experiences. Our differences of opinion reveal the differences in our experiences, which in turn highlight different dimensions of what we’re critiquing. As long as that criticism is thoughtfully considered and argued, it’s all useful.
GREEN I grew up arguing with my family about everything we saw. In a way, that’s how you learn that other people exist as much as you do, and how you come to understand what you experience more fully. In that sense, unexpected or outré or at least strongly worded positions are necessary. Even when they are quite negative they can be seen, I hope, as joyful contributions to the mutual project — as “Company” has it — of being alive.
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#39Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/6/22 at 3:30pm
MemorableUserName said: "
GREEN When I engage those people further, it often turns out that it’s not the supposed meanness but the disagreement itself that makes them angry. Some people just can’t be happy unless everyone loves “Diana, the Musical” and “Flying Over Sunset,” to name two shows I didn’t — and you didn’t, either. Do you get that?
PHILLIPS I often am seen as a curmudgeon or contrarian by my family and friends, but then when they read my reviews they always tell me I’m fair."
lol, sure. These two people seem really self aware.
I did appreciate having another woman's perspective on Company. I haven't seen it yet so there's no one to disagree with. I just think his writing has been scattered and lazy since he left Vulture.
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#40Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/6/22 at 3:33pm
Jesse Green is a critic. It is literally his job to say what he likes and doesn't. So if he didn't like the set design in Company, it is in absolutely no way inappropriate for him to write as such. Just like it is in absolutely no way inappropriate to disagree with his opinion on it. That's literally what being a critic is.
#41Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/9/22 at 1:49pm
Wanted to add here, that Alison Luff and her husband matthew magnusson released their album Bones and included is a song titled Dear Jesse Green. Which is a pretty beautiful song and I believe it’s about Alison’s time in Escape to Margaritaville.
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#42Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/9/22 at 1:56pm
Call_me_jorge said: "Wanted to add here, that Alison Luff and her husband matthew magnusson released their album Bones and included is a song titledDear Jesse Green. Which is a pretty beautiful song and I believe it’s about Alison’s time in Escape to Margaritaville."
This is a lovely song. She's a Broadway favorite of mine.
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#43Jesse Green Doubles Down on COMPANY (and others)
Posted: 1/9/22 at 1:56pm
Call_me_jorge said: "Wanted to add here, that Alison Luff and her husband matthew magnusson released their album Bones and included is a song titledDear Jesse Green. Which is a pretty beautiful song and I believe it’s about Alison’s time in Escape to Margaritaville."
This is a lovely song. She's a Broadway favorite of mine.
