Liza approves Judy Garland bio musical

[bwaylyric]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 8:33am

Chasing Rainbows

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 9:20am

just to state the obvious: Liza's "endorsement" is not required for a bio musical, Liza's endorsement says nothing about the quality of the piece other than to her, and Liza's endorsement could suggest choices that would not be viewed in the same way by others.

[DAME]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:05am

HogansHero said: "just to state the obvious: Liza's "endorsement" is not required for a bio musical, Liza's endorsement says nothing about the quality of the piece other than to her, and Liza's endorsementcould suggest choices that would not be viewed in the same way by others."

So?

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:18am

so... the breathless press release should be taken with a grain of salt. I said this was all obvious. What was your point? 

[DAME]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:25am

HogansHero said: "so... the breathless press release should be taken with a grain of salt. I said this was all obvious. What was your point?"

She is her daughter and her approval or disapproval matters to fans.  I don’t get the reason for the dig.

Updated On: 1/15/19 at 10:25 AM

[Tag]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 11:10am

And it's good PR.

[zainmax]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 12:26pm

HogansHero said: "just to state the obvious: Liza's "endorsement" is not required for a bio musical, Liza's endorsement says nothing about the quality of the piece other than to her, and Liza's endorsementcould suggest choices that would not be viewed in the same way by others."

Good point in that the musical might be more of a puff piece and overlook the negative aspects of her life.

[Tag]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 12:33pm

^The show deals with her early life, so seemingly doesn't delve into the negative things and period we usually connote with her.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 1:04pm

Tag said: "^The show deals with her early life, so seemingly doesn't delve into the negative things and periodwe usually connote with her."

Though of course it's now pretty common knowledge that so many of those demons she battled later in life stemmed from the way those who should have been protecting her treated her in her early life.

[zainmax]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 1:23pm

I guess that I'm not that familiar with her early life. Better see the musical!

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 1:58pm

zainmax said: "I guess that I'm not that familiar with her early life. Better see the musical!"

She started her performing career as a toddler in the vaudeville circuit.  Stage mother scenario to boot.  Was signed on to an MGM contract in her early teens, where she was introduced to pep pills (to keep her active and alert for hours) and barbiturates (to bring her down so she could sleep).  Her body quickly became addicted and her lifelong battle with these pills lasted till her death at age 47.  

Though we mostly know about her later life (suicide attempts, career bumps, etc), her life was far from perfect in even in her early years.  

 

[zainmax]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 2:07pm

Thanks. Still, it seems like it won't portray her in the best light.

[haterobics]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 2:54pm

I didn't realize I was defying Liza when i saw End of the Rainbow...

[AngusN]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 5:58pm

“Good point in that the musical might be more of a puff piece and overlook the negative aspects of her life."

it didn’t do Bohemian Rhapsody any harm.

 

[zainmax]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 7:03pm

I thought Bohemian Rhapsody was a little creative in its storytelling to amplify the drama, but what did it omit?

[zainmax]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 7:03pm

I should clarify that I am not TOO familiar with Queen either. Guess I need to study up my pop culture icons!

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 7:49pm

DAME said: "HogansHero said: "so... the breathless press release should be taken with a grain of salt. I said this was all obvious. What was your point?"

She isher daughter and her approval or disapproval matters to fans. I don’t get the reason for the dig."

 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 8:00pm

DAME said: "HogansHero said: "so... the breathless press release should be taken with a grain of salt. I said this was all obvious. What was your point?"

She is her daughter and her approval or disapproval matters to fans. I don’t get the reason for the dig."

Whose fans? What dig? Her "endorsement" is a silly thing to get excited about. Is she ponying up the money to produce it? Nope.

[Observation]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:30pm

I think, for me, having Liza approve somehow justifies that they are doing right by the story. They are being careful and telling it correctly. Anytime I hear a family member of one of these bio-projects disapproves of the final product, I wonder if the story is credible.

 

I don't know if that's good or bad of me to think, but it's definitely how i justify it. 

[haterobics]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:56pm

Observation said: "I think, for me, having Liza approve somehow justifies that they are doing right by the story. They are being careful and telling it correctly. Anytime I hear a family member of one of these bio-projects disapproves of the final product, I wonder if the story is credible."

Those seem to have nothing to do with one another. Family involvement can just as easily mean they are going to keep it light and not go into certain areas...

[HogansHero]

Posted: 1/15/19 at 10:56pm

@Observation, how do you define "doing right"? I think (as I said) a lot of people would say that approval connotes a whitewash.

[SweetLips22]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 2:03am

All these things are usually just a little bit of this and a little bit of that and hopefully the good bits will outweigh the bad.

All I want to hear and revel in is that glorious one of a kind voice and her concert mannerisms outside of the set pieces for her movies..

I don't mind a few warts but please, not the whole frog/warts thing.

[Loopin’theloop]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 5:55am

haterobics said: "I didn't realize I was defying Liza when i saw End of the Rainbow..."

She realised. She put a black sequin next to your name.

[Mr H.]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 7:44am

I don't know.  I saw the Goodspeed production and found it to be incredibly dull.  Did anyone else see it and have different thoughts?

[GiantsInTheSky2]

Posted: 1/16/19 at 9:15am

The show already has a family friend/friend of the estate working in the show. Her, well, estate is very strict about what is or is not released and often insist on whitewashing so the story deters from the tragic storyline.

Whenever I have read or heard reviews, it sounds like a fun show that dips its toes in the more serious topics of her growing up but doesnt fully invest in them. Which, in my opinion as a huge JG fan, is for the best. I dont think her initial years were as dramatic as those to come. A good example being the TV film with Judy Davis, Me and My Shadows, which I highly recommend. They give the more serious parts their attention and then move on, because things werent bad yet. She was just a girl from Minnesota trying to break into the movie business.