Me either. The visceral reactions about a fun but average show on Broadway has never met with such disdain. It's really hilarious, honestly. If it ever tours, it will do really well.
*Grammar check by Hogan (indirectly of course) who is annoying and awesome all at once*
Sutton Ross said: "Me either. The visceral reactions about a fun but average show on Broadway has never met with such disdain. It's really hilarious, honestly. If it ever tours, it will do really well.
*Grammar check by Hogan (indirectly of course) who is annoying and awesome all at once*"
ohh I disagree—I remember how much hate Gettin’ The Band Back Together got and while I don’t think it will tour, it was just a FUN show! But it did get a lot of hate 😔 I enjoyed it!! Not everything has to be deep. It could just be a truly fun show.
Also...Tootsie....that hatred from the Trans community...yikes. I don’t understand how someone would be like “yeah it’s offensive to a community, to thousands of people but hey! We should still have a tour!” I don’t understand
Owen22 said: "Apparently any mention of a Beetlejuice reopening is a blood-in-the-water attraction for people on this site. I don't quite understand why..."
It is baffling, but it all seems fan-centered, not show centered. There's great ire at the people who enjoyed the show, but no one seems to trash the show itself.
Ehhh I've still got tickets tied up in TodayTix to see it from the week of the shutdown I can't get my money back on. They should open it just for me so I can use those credits!
joevitus said: "Owen22 said: "Apparently any mention of a Beetlejuice reopening is a blood-in-the-water attraction for people on this site. I don't quite understand why..."
It is baffling, but it all seems fan-centered, not show centered. There's great ire at the people who enjoyed the show, but no one seems to trash the show itself."
Regardless of what reopens the show, I will forever be angry that the Palace got remodelled at all. The fact that a theatre with that amount of vaudeville history and reputation is being ripped out, moved to a new floor and remodelled to make way for a retail space. The Marx Brothers, Ed Wynn, Judy Garland, Buster Keaton and so many others performed there, it's just wrecking an important part of theatre history.
It's definitely going to be one of those things that in 30 years time everyone (especially historians) are going to look at it and go 'WHY did they destroy and disrupt so much history and why didn't anyone stop them?' (Of course the answer is 'money' but...)
The Palace really was ruined 30+ years ago when the actual Palace Theatre building above the theatre came down, and the frontage for the theatre got swallowed up into the design of the Doubletree Hotel. It got that disastrous late 80s/early 90s marquee that gave it no presence. You could only tell what was playing there if you were looking straight at it. (I directed more than a few tourists to the theatre's entrance when they were standing at the corner of 47th and 7th Ave). The theatre was also looking really shabby in recent years. So even though I think the raising of the theatre is a crass move, so much was lost already, it hardly makes a difference. If the audience experience is better getting into and leaving the theatre and the interior gets a proper restoration, there are some wins along with the considerable losses.
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
Agreed! It was in need of some love. The marquee was awful. Why would you have it the same size as the surrounding posters? Awful. And the inside was rough. The bathroom situation was rough.
I’m all for a remodel and glad they are keeping in intact at least. Might be better for it.
themadmarchhare said: "Regardless of what reopens the show, I will forever be angry that the Palace got remodelled at all. The fact that a theatre with that amount of vaudeville history and reputation is being ripped out, moved to a new floor and remodelled to make way for a retail space. The Marx Brothers, Ed Wynn, Judy Garland, Buster Keaton and so many others performed there, it's just wrecking an important part of theatre history.
It's definitely going to be one of those things that in 30 years time everyone (especially historians) are going to look at it and go 'WHY did they destroy and disrupt so much history and why didn't anyone stop them?' (Of course the answer is 'money' but...)"
I remember being there for Sunset Boulevard and it was such a beautiful theater! I would think some count as NYC landmarks or have some sort of cultural significance which wouldn't allow for major changes (just minor renovations when called for, adding accessibility needs, etc). Hmph. I guess money is the answer sometimes
Smaxie said: "The Palace really was ruined 30+ years ago when the actual Palace Theatre building above the theatre came down, and the frontage for the theatregot swallowed up into the design of the Doubletree Hotel. It got that disastrous late 80s/early 90s marquee that gave it no presence. You could only tell what was playing there if you were looking straight at it. (I directed more than a few tourists to the theatre's entrance when they were standing at the corner of 47th and 7th Ave). The theatre was also looking really shabby in recent years. So even though I think the raising of the theatre is a crass move, so much was lost already, it hardly makes a difference. If the audience experience is better getting into and leaving the theatre and the interior gets a proper restoration, there are some wins along with the considerable losses."
The first time we went to see Spongebob at the Palace, I told my girlfriend to meet me in the lobby, with the directions "go to the tkts stairs, and turn right". She passed the theater at least 3 times without finding it.
"Grease," the fourth revival of the season, is the worst show in the history of theater and represents an unparalleled assault on Western civilization and its values. - Michael Reidel
Sutton Ross said: "Or the inability to ask for directions? "
That part didn’t help... she ended up arriving 10 minutes or so before intermission.
"Grease," the fourth revival of the season, is the worst show in the history of theater and represents an unparalleled assault on Western civilization and its values. - Michael Reidel
According to NYtix: The current plan is to keep the inside of the Palace Theatre “untouched” and to literally pick the entire theatre up, stage and all, in order to elevate the theatre to the third floor of this new TSX Broadway development. The rules of the reconstruction of the Palace Theatre are quite tight and do not allow the developer to change the original setup of the theatre, stage or the architecture of the theatre itself.
I mean, sure, if Dollypop hadn’t just come on and posted something totally unsubstantiated about this show and likely just made up, which he has done before.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."