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"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?

"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?

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JBroadway
#1"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 11:09am

https://www.broadwayworld.com/off-off-broadway/article/The-Bossy-Collective-Presents-New-Musical-THE-WIVES-OF-HENRY-THE-EIGHTH-20190418

This is a show that's up in NYC now. It's a 70-minute, all-female musical about the wives of Henry VIII featuring a pop/rock score. Sound familiar? I wonder if this is a coincidence, or a really blatant rip-off? Six has been around for a couple of years now, but I have no idea how long this one might have been in development. 

I guess it's also not totally fair to judge it since I haven't seen it, but the general optics of it are not great. 

Updated On: 5/11/19 at 11:09 AM

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DoTheDood
#2"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 12:13pm

They are having performances today and tomorrow, and the tickets are pretty cheap, someone should check this out.

Also even if it was a complete coincidence, at the very least this production is trying to get hype from Six. No way someone is making this and be completely oblivious to how massive Six has gotten across the pond/rumors of a transfer

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#3"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 12:35pm

Likely a coincidence. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time there were multiple musicals of a similar subject matter in development at the same time. See Phantom, The Wild Party, etc


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ggersten
#4"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 1:36pm

Could be a coincidence. The timing is suspect since in their video they say they just started about a year ago - which is after the first festival and very limited West End run of SiX - although SiX performed at West End Live in June 2018.  It's not an unfamiliar or rarely produced story - although usually not all six at one time. The take on women empowerment is similar - but then, that is not a new idea either. The clip of the 'prologue" uses the same rhyme as a beat - but the song does go off in a different direction.  To me, it's not as catchy or as inviting. 

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Scarlet Leigh
#5"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 7:34pm

With the sneak peak of their EARLY rehearsal of their opening song... it might seem kinda red flaggy at first that their opening is the same "Divorced. Beheaded. Died. Etc." as six but that cadence is actually a pretty often used thing when people talk Henry the 8th and his wives. I have seen documentaries from years ago use it. Beyond that, the style might say pop rock but it really isn't from this. It seems that the development might be a coincidence however one can't help but wonder if riding the popularity of one is as well. 

It is not the first time two shows were in development at the same time on the same subject. Case and point... The Wild Party. In 2000, while LaChiusa's version was on Broadway, Lippa's version was playing Off-Broadway.

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getupngo
#6"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/11/19 at 7:56pm

DoTheDood said: "They are having performances today and tomorrow, and the tickets are pretty cheap, someone should check this out.

Also even if it was a complete coincidence, at the very least this production is trying to get hype from Six. No way someone is making this and be completely oblivious to how massive Six has gotten across the pond/rumors of a transfer
"

I'm actually seeing it tomorrow! I'll report back!

rafarosgon
#7"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/12/19 at 12:00am

By the sound (and lyrics) of this sneak peak, I would not say it's a coincidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-aum34Ut2U&feature=youtu.be

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treblemakerz
#8"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/12/19 at 1:22am

I worked with someone in this production on a previous project so I've been seeing this on my Facebook feed a lot lately from them. Was wondering the same thing myself. Hm.

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getupngo
#9"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/12/19 at 3:24pm

Ok this was trash. Like a high school production. Opening uses the same died/beheaded thing as SIX. They also did the same as Hamilton where they sang the year/place/ event. The girl who played Queen Anna was really funny when she flips out. Other than that, meh. The songs from SIX are infinitely better

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getupngo
#10"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/12/19 at 3:30pm

And there’s a song early on in the show with a near identical piano melody to HEART OF STONE from six

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ggersten
#11"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/13/19 at 6:44pm

getupngo: thank you for your service and sacrifice of time.

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The Distinctive Baritone
#12"The Wives of Henry VIII" - coincidence, or "Six" ripoff?
Posted: 5/13/19 at 7:09pm

There is at least one additional play out there that was recently written and produced about Henry VIII's six wives. With #metoo and everything, it's very timely. Plus, Hamilton has probably made historically-based but "woke" plays very much in vogue.