BWW WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Sir Ian McKellen Talks THE HOBBIT, Only Make Believe & More
Today, we present a particularly thrilling taste of the forthcoming InDepth InterView in this BWW WORLD EXCLUSIVE with one of the finest actors of stage and screen - and, now, thanks to the Scissor Sisters NIGHT WORK album, recording studio - the foremost Shakespearean interpreter of our age and star of two of the biggest film franchises of all time - LORD OF THE RINGS and X MEN - Sir Ian McKellen! In this portion of the complete discussion, we discuss his second year hosting the ONLY MAKE BELIEVE gala to benefit hospitalized children, as well as discuss how he became involved with the Dena Hammerstein-founded charity. We also discuss his participation in Peter Jackson's forthcoming LORD OF THE RINGS prequel THE HOBBIT and his cameo in the epic music video for his Sister Sisters collaboration "Invisible Light" - plus thoughts on Shakespeare, stage, screen and monster movies (and not just GODS & MONSTERS). All god, no monster, Ian McKellen is as renowned and respected as it gets. And rightfully so.
The Winner's Tale
The very best. Who can claim as much? On stage or on screen? Ian McKellen can. From Trevor Nunn's hypnotic, claustrophobic black void stage and video incarnation of MACBETH starring McKellen alongside the other best of the best of their - or any - breed, Judi Dench; to tackling another terrifying titular Shakespearean anti-hero twenty years later with Robert Downey Jr. and Annette Bening in RICHARD III (for which he also composed the screenplay); to featured roles in pristine stage-to-screen transfers like John Guare's SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION and Martin Sherman's BENT; to astonishing and groundbreaking television roles in Armistead Maupin's TALES OF THE CITY and Roger Spottiswoode's AND THE BAND PLAYED ON; to co-starring with (unfortunately, the recently-deceased) Brad Renfro in Bryan Singer's sensitive and terrifying take on the Stephen King story APT PUPIL; to continuing on with Singer to top-line the smash-hit series of X MEN films and become a household name to people of all ages all over the world in the process. There's also that other little trilogy he headlined - the most highly awarded film trilogy in Oscar history, and the most successful box office franchise of the last thirty years - Peter Jackson's revolutionary THE LORD OF THE RINGS. In the intervening years, McKellen also managed to create one of the most studied, stalwart and stunning performances in film history, making James Whale come alive before our very eyes in the positively exquisite, spell-binding fractured fairy tale of Bill Condon's GODS & MONSTERS (which is based on the Christopher Bram novel). With this week's announcement of Peter Jackson talking the helm of THE HOBBIT and filming on the Middle Earth prequel to begin in February, McKellen may soon be proving that while he is part god, a part of him will always be identified with Gandalf. And with good - godly - reason, as well. It's iconic. So is he.
Be sure to stay tuned to BWW for the complete InDepth InterView: Sir Ian McKellen where we also discuss APT PUPIL, X MEN, Shakespeare, stage versus screen acting and much, much more! Also, some tickets are still available to the ONLY MAKE BELIEVE gala so be sure to make a donation and mark Monday's date at the link below!
PC: What a thrill this is speaking to you, the greatest actor of our age.
IM: Good afternoon, Pat. Thank you very much, that's very kind.
PC: Are you involved in THE HOBBIT?
IM: I am not under contract, no.
PC: Have you had any meetings?
IM: I'm not going to say any more than that because it might complicate things! So, I would say - at the moment - no, I am not under contract.
PC: Is it OK for me to then take that as a "Yes" with a "but..."?
IM: (Laughs.) I'm not saying any more than what I've said! (Laughs.)
PC: Tell me about your collaboration with the Scissor Sisters. How did you become involved with them?
IM: Hmm... how did I first bump into the Scissor Sisters? (Pause.) Oh, yes, I think it was through Elton John. It was in London.
PC: Elton, of course!
IM: Yes, so I sort of kept in touch with Jake and on what he was doing. You know, he's writing the musical of TALES OF THE CITY with Armistead Maupin. Do you know about that?
PC: You were, of course, in the movie! I just interviewed Betty Buckley, who's playing Madrigal in the TALES in San Francisco, last week. It's gonna be great!
IM: Yes, it is. I saw them all when they were doing a TV show and I did that with them. So, I sort of know what's going on, I guess!
PC: You're totally with it! Scissor Sisters is quite cutting edge!
IM: No, I don't know... I think they're rather old fashioned! And I love it! (Laughs.)
PC: A little music hall - and musical - never hurt anybody!
IM: They're terrific. They have a wonderful impact on the audience. It's terrific.
PC: You are doing a cameo in the "Invisible Light" video, too, right? Elvira premiered the first clip with you on Monday.
IM: Yes, but I'm afraid I can't even remember what I do in it! (Laughs.)
PC: Tell me about the Only Make Believe Benefit and how you became involved with them.
IM: Well, Dena Hammerstein thought up the whole idea - which is to take professional performers into long-stay children's hospitals for a series of concerts. It's live theatre. It's everything - it's audience participation, it's story-telling, it's music, it's fun, it's dance. As a result of these visits, the doctors say that the kids get better quicker.
PC: How wonderful!
IM: What better motive could one have for supporting them? I've seen the work they do. It's all in Manhattan at the moment, but I don't see why the idea shouldn't spread right across the United States - and, indeed, across the world. It's such a simple idea.
PC: All the best ones are.
IM: It combines Dena's love of the theatre and her love for children - which, of course, so many other people also share.
PC: Children and art, as Sondheim says.
IM: I did the benefit for them last year, as well. They depend very much on money from supporters to keep going. So, their aim is by 2012 to be in fifty hospitals at any one time.
PC: Wow! That's a lot!
IM: It's an absolutely stunning achievement.
IM: It's also an easy way to help.
PC: What's the plan for this year?
IM: Well, the minute we stop talking I am going to talk about that with the director! (Laughs.) I shall be there, that's all I'm safe to say!
PC: That's all we can ask!
IM: There is going to be a stunning act of wonderful performers. There will also be a couple of awards given to people who have supported them over the years. It's going to be a very fabulous sort of entertainment for about ninety minutes.
PC: What are you thinking of doing?
IM: I don't know... I might do a bit of Shakespeare. It's about high time I sang on Broadway, don't you think? (Laughs.) I don't know what I'm going to do.
PC: What do you think of musicals? Do you enJoy Sondheim?
IM: Well, of course, Sondheim is the great dramatist of my generation, I suppose. I am a huge fan of his. I shall try and see Elaine Stritch and Bernadette [Peters] in that revival of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. I saw it in London, with a different cast.
PC: What else?
PC: A highly lauded production!
IM: Thank you. I am also going to see WOMEN ON THE VERGE at the Belasco coming up.
PC: Oh, with Patti LuPone!
IM: Yes, with Patti LuPone!
PC: What's your favorite Shakespeare role so far?
IM: Macbeth would have to be high up there.
IM: I do think it is one of the best screen adaptations because it was done by people who know the play extremely well. We had performed it maybe three hundred times in the theatre. Trevor didn't want to start obscuring things by putting in lots of scenery or effects, which is something you might think is necessary in a story about witches and so on. He didn't do that.
PC: Definitely not! It's a black void.
IM: There's no scenery in it. The costumes are at a minimum. It's all close-ups. It's talking heads. Then, there's Macbeth talking directly to the audience - which, some people say, doesn't work necessarily very well on the large screen - but, on TV, it is perfect because an audience is used to be talked to through the television. So, it's not surprising when Macbeth suddenly turns out of the story and addresses the audience. So, that did work very well and I know it's shown a lot in schools and kids get properly frightened by it - which is Shakespeare's intention!
PC: Are you a horror fan?
IM: No, I'm not. No, I don't like being frightened, thank you very much! I don't mind frightening other people! (Laughs.)
PC: What's next?
IM: Ummm... (Long Pause.) Well, I am currently going around British secondary schools, as a gay man talking about my life, and encouraging schools to get rid of homophobic bullying and to care for their gay members of staff and their gay students.
PC: Like IT GETS BETTER.
IM: Kids are coming out earlier and earlier - some, as young as twelve now - and schools need to take that into account.
IM: That's what I'm basically doing.
PC: What about on stage and on screen - or in the recording studio?
IM: As far as work is concerned... I am hoping to be in the live show with the Scissor Sisters.
PC: And hopefully Lady Gaga, since they are opening for her!
IM: Yes, and I am also going to record with another band, Elbow, who are fantastic. They are a band from the north of England, which is where I come from.
PC: So, the recording career continues! And, on film in the near future?
IM: I'm keeping myself open for offers for 2011. I gather THE HOBBIT starts shooting in February.
PC: "I gather" it does, as well!
PC: Is the ONLY MAKE BELIEVE benefit sold out?
IM: We still have a couple hundred dollar seats left!
PC: Define collaboration.
IM: Define it? (Pause.) Well, it's respect and love, really. But, it's not always possible to have either of those. Or, to have both of them together. But, you can always be helped, I have always found. I never think I know best. I am always interested in other people's views. If they come from a director whose work I like, then that's all the more.
PC: Mutual respect.
IM: I think love is an important part of what we do because there are always lots of mutual problems when you are putting on a show. To know you are in the company with people who love and care for each other, as well as for whatever they are working on, is almost essential, really.
PC: This has been marvelous. I feel so honored. Thank you so much.
IM: Thank you and thank you for your interest. I really appreciate it. It's been jolly!