How Much Longer Does KINKY BOOTS Have?

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:16pm

Their numbers have been terrible lately, and it looks like they're really trying to rein it in by bringing Cook back. But does anybody see it running past New Year's?

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/David-Cook-Will-Return-to-KINKY-BOOTS-Next-Month-20180619

[Impossible2]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:20pm

While it was MUCH better than the film and I did enjoy it, I am very surprised it has lasted this long.

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:20pm

Even if it closed in January, it would run past new year's.... would be open until the 6th or so.

I"m all for producers making every last dime before closing a show, for how many shows they never see a penny from. So, we shall see... the rumors on here seem to be that an announcement is imminent.

And CPannullo will pop in here to say he hopes it closes already, too, so we have that to look forward to...

[CPannullo]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:22pm

I don’t hope the show closes. I really love the show and enjoy it. I’d rather see something new

[Brooks0214]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:24pm

I hope it isn’t near it’s closing date I loved this musical bey much when i saw it and can’t wait to see it again later this summer. It is a fanatic musical and should be way popular than it is

[Impossible2]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:29pm

haterobics said: "

And CPannullo will pop in here to say he hopes it closes already, too, so we have that to look forward to..."

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[ACL2006]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:34pm

It's run its course and unless a big name can come in a boost ticket sales, it's done. It'll do well regionally and is still being produced frequently in numerous countries. Just this is one of those shows that may be a Trainwreck for community theaters to attempt.

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 1:38pm

You know, I really hate threads like this. I mean, yes, Kinky Boots has certainly run its course, but come on, y'all! Why discuss something imminent at the behest of others? Is it protocol to look ahead in terms of an imminent closing? Is that what it is? Anywho, I love Kinky Boots with all my heart, but it's going to be strange to see pictures of the Hirschfeld without Kinky Boots there (when it, you know, actually announces a closing, which it hasn't yet, of course!)

[Gpvegas]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 2:50pm

Most likely until at least until September 9th.  They just announced David Cook is returning until then.  

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:21pm

ACL2006 said: "It's run its course and unless a big name can come in a boost ticket sales, it's done. It'll do well regionally and is still being produced frequently in numerous countries. Just this is one of those shows that may be a Trainwreck for community theaters to attempt."

ACL2006, why are you so tempestuous and harsh on shows that might close? It's like your only function here is to tell people when you believe a certain show will close! For someone that has seen Kinky Boots many times, you offer a very conflicting view on whether you actually like the show, or just want to see it close!

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:30pm

CPannullo said: "I don’t hope the show closes. I really love the show and enjoy it. I’d rather see something new"

You can always see something new, just in a different theater.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:31pm

Solipsist, respectfully, Broadway is a cyclical, zero-sum industry. Shows open and then they close. There are only 41 theaters, after all! I think a discussion is warranted when a show is clearly on its last legs, because people can discuss not only what's been causing the show's financial tumbles, but what might be in store for that particular venue. It's not intended to incite animus toward a show in any way. It's just kind of how it goes.

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:40pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "Solipsist, respectfully, Broadway is a cyclical, zero-sum industry. Shows open and then they close. There are only 41 theaters, after all! I think a discussion is warranted when a show is clearly on its last legs, because people can discuss not only what's been causing the show's financial tumbles, but what might be in store for that particular venue. It's not intended to incite animus toward a show in any way. It's just kind of how it goes."

BC, do you hear yourself? If I wanted to, I could look up probably dozens of threads that YOU have started with the subject of "How Much Longer Does ____ Have?" If I didn't know any better, I would think that you were a stan for this website, trying to "fit in" as Christian Bale/Patrick Bateman once said. Also, the same thing could be said for those dumb "What's Next for This Theatre?" threads! Don't give me the cyclical argument; if Kinky Boots ends up closing January, it will have played for over five-and-a-half years, which is crazy, considering it opened in the wake of Matilda's already guaranteed success. Instead of being analyzers trying to figure out what will happen next, could we at least stay in the now and applaud a show that had a much longer run than anyone anticipated, won Best Musical over Matilda, AND gave us delightful stunt castings over the years (Wayne Brady, Brendon Urie, Todrick Hall, and Kirstin Maldonado come to mind!)

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:42pm

Solipsist234 said: "BroadwayConcierge said: "Solipsist, respectfully, Broadway is a cyclical, zero-sum industry. Shows open and then they close. There are only 41 theaters, after all! I think a discussion is warranted when a show is clearly on its last legs, because people can discuss not only what's been causing the show's financial tumbles, but what might be in store for that particular venue. It's not intended to incite animus toward a show in any way. It's just kind of how it goes."

BC, do you hear yourself? If I wanted to, I could look up probably dozens of threads that YOU have started with the subject of "How Much Longer Does ____ Have?" If I didn't know any better, I would think that you were a stan for this website, trying to "fit in" as Christian Bale/Patrick Bateman once said. Also, the same thing could be saidfor those dumb "What's Next for This Theatre?" threads! Don't give me the cyclical argument; if Kinky Boots ends up closing January, it willhave played for overfive-and-a-half years, which is crazy, considering it opened in the wake of Matilda's already guaranteed success. Instead of being analyzers trying to figure out what will happen next, could we at least stay in the now and applaud a show that had a much longer run than anyone anticipated, won Best Musical over Matilda, AND gave us delightful stunt castings over the years (Wayne Brady, Brendon Urie, Todrick Hall, and Kirstin Maldonado come to mind!)"

Look. this is a theatre discussion board.  People are discussing theatre.  This isn't a The Theatre Industry Is All Rainbows And Magical Dreams board. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:43pm

Solipsist234 said: "Also, the same thing could be said for those dumb "What's Next for This Theatre?" threads!"

You yourself literally said, "Ooh, I absolutely adore these types of threads" on the one for Studio 54. ...But okay.

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:52pm

Actually, my mistake, y'all! I just realized something: it's the closing threads started by none other than BroadwayConcierge that actually make people pause and reflect. Oops! Completely forgot about that. Oh well...

And to Sondheimite's previous comment, I understand that the theater industry definitely isn't one of the most enlightening things in the world, but this board is the type of board that promotes a shared love/bond for theater, and we as posters are able to share our experiences, love, criticisms, etc. of theater on a daily basis. Instead of wondering when the inevitable closing of a show is going to happen, can we at least stop and look back at a show's run and just be glad it happened? Kinky Boots has run for an awfully long time, and I think it's a show that deserves to be looked back on with awe and wonder, considering it was the 'underdog' show of its season (especially up against Matilda; you can't bring up Kinky Boots' long run without bringing up Matilda, obviously!)

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:54pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "Solipsist234 said: "Also, the same thing could be said for those dumb "What's Next for This Theatre?" threads!"

You yourself literally said,"Ooh, I absolutely adore these types of threads" on the one for Studio 54. ...But okay."

Maybe because it was Studio 54! 

BC, I'm going to be over here loving theater, while you assume your private investigator/captain of the boards moniker! That cool with you? 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 3:59pm

Solipsist, nobody is saying you can't profess your love for Kinky Boots. I love Kinky Boots! But like Sondheimite said, this is a theatre discussion board, and in New York, theatre is a commercial industry. When a show posts grosses like Kinky Boots has been lately, it's not out of the ordinary to talk about its fate. Kinky Boots is a Tony-winning, wildly successful show that's already the 32nd-longest running show of all time. This isn't like I'm trying to make a helpless underdog of a small show look bad. Conversations like this are how the industry works, looking back on its past and looking forward toward its future. 

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:06pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "Solipsist, nobody is saying you can't profess your love for Kinky Boots. I love Kinky Boots! But like Sondheimite said, this is a theatre discussion board, and in New York, theatre is a commercial industry. When a show posts grosses like Kinky Boots has been lately, it's not out of the ordinary to talk about its fate. Kinky Boots is a Tony-winning, wildly successful show that's already the 32nd-longest running show of all time. This isn't like I'm trying to make a helpless underdog of a small show look bad. Conversations like this are how the industry works, looking back on its past and looking forward toward its future."

Yeah, this is a theatre discussion board run by you, BC! But carry on, I guess...

It's whatever, man. What I love is what I love! Those old farts that believe their opinions are so uber important because they saw the original Hello Dolly a million times are a bit questionable, but what do I know, honestly? I don't live in New York, but that doesn't make me some outcast member of the board who doesn't understand how theater works! But really, like I said, it's whatever, man!

[ACL2006]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:09pm

Solipsist234 said: "ACL2006 said: "It's run its course and unless a big name can come in a boost ticket sales, it's done. It'll do well regionally and is still being produced frequently in numerous countries. Just this is one of those shows that may be a Trainwreck for community theaters to attempt."

ACL2006, why are you so tempestuous and harsh on shows that might close? It's like your only function here is to tell people when you believe a certain show will close! For someone that has seen Kinky Boots many times, you offer a very conflicting view on whether you actually like the show, or just want to see it close!"

 

 

I'm actually rarely harsh on shows closing. I just state the facts when a show's numbers start to dip below their weekly nut for a steedy time frame. KINKY BOOTS just can't survive on its 6th year without a name.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:10pm

I opened up a page for conversation about the theatre. It's up to you if you want to participate in the dialogue or not. I don't really understand why this is such a big deal. Bit strange.

[Solipsist234]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:14pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "I opened up a page for conversation about the theatre. It's up to you if you want to participate in the dialogue or not. I don't really understand why this is such a big deal. Bit strange."

No, you opened up a thread because of "protocol" (whatever the heck that means!), not because you want to talk about anything worthwhile regarding theater!

It takes knowing about other threads that you've posted just like this than not knowing, BC. It is what it is...

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:15pm

Girls, girls, you're both pretty.

Meanwhile, back to the topic, I absolutely love Kinky Boots. It has had an incredibly respectable run, and has made thousands of audiences very happy. However, given the sheer volume of new shows (and revivals) that have Broadway aims, the fact that Kinky has had an already brilliant run, and the fact that in order for these new shows to come in, some of the long-runners are going to have to close, I personally wouldn't mind it if Kinky Boots was one of the casualties. It has had a fantastic run, and no closing announcement can possible take away from that.

Updated On: 6/19/18 at 04:15 PM

[BalconyClub]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:15pm

It is important to forecast expectations for when a show may end.

Every now and then, when I open the refrigerator or the underwear drawer, I need to determine if the lettuce or a certain pair of briefs are past their prime.

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 6/19/18 at 4:52pm

Solipsist234 said: "BroadwayConcierge said: "Solipsist, nobody is saying you can't profess your love for Kinky Boots. I love Kinky Boots! But like Sondheimite said, this is a theatre discussion board, and in New York, theatre is a commercial industry. When a show posts grosses like Kinky Boots has been lately, it's not out of the ordinary to talk about its fate. Kinky Boots is a Tony-winning, wildly successful show that's already the 32nd-longest running show of all time. This isn't like I'm trying to make a helpless underdog of a small show look bad. Conversations like this are how the industry works, looking back on its past and looking forward toward its future."

Yeah, this is a theatre discussion board run by you, BC! But carry on, I guess...

It's whatever, man. What I love is what I love! Those old farts that believe their opinions are so uber important because they sawthe original Hello Dolly a million times are a bit questionable, but what do I know, honestly? I don't live in New York, but that doesn't make me some outcast member of the board who doesn't understand how theater works! But really, like I said, it's whatever, man!"

Calm down.  I'm in my mid/late twenties and work in the industry.  I'm not an old fart, I'm an up and comer who understands how the business of theatre works.  I didn't live in the city when I got the knowledge base that I gained.  No one is telling you not to love Kinky Boots or that you're an idiot, you're not listening.  If you don't want to take part in a discussion then be an adult and don't ask the people taking part of the discussion to change their discussion in order to make you more comfortable.

 

Updated On: 6/19/18 at 04:52 PM