HEDWIG recoups
HEDWIG recoups
mjohnson2
Broadway Star Joined: 11/2/13
#1HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 3:04pm
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#2HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 5:38pmNot shocking, but good for them! Especially on the 7 show a week schedule. I wonder what their weekly nut is (sans NPH's salary). It might not have to make a terrible amount per week while Rannells is in it to stay afloat.
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Jamie Pierce
Leading Actor Joined: 5/11/04
#2HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 6:47pmDo we know what the initial investment was? And was NPH's salary ever disclosed?
#3HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 6:51pmWith nine thousand dollar standing room, this isn't too surprising.
#4HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 6:56pm
According to NYTimes the capital is $5 million. That makes the weekly nut (including NPH's salary) approx. 637k
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 7/15/14 at 06:56 PM
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#5HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 9:30pmI'm surprised it took them that long. And how does this show have the same "nut" as some huge, big, lavish Broadway musicals? Something doesn't add up.
getatme
Leading Actor Joined: 6/14/11
#6HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 9:35pmNeil has a large paycheck and is probably making a percentage of the box office, so the running cost is higher than expected. When Rannells joins, the running cost will drop drastically.
#7HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 9:36pm
RM, how many shows actually recoup in 16 weeks? Seems pretty fast to me.
(And some items, such as rent, set, sound, advertising, house staff, etc., aren't less just because the show has a small cast.)
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#8HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 11:13pmI know that. I'm not an idiot. But if it costs 600,000 a week to run, and so does Cinderella, it doesn't take a genius to think that's a little strange?
#9HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 11:21pmDamn that NPH must be making a mint, I'm sure easily beating Ricky Martin's reported $100K a week deal. Maybe doubling it! And considering that's a smaller venue, only 1,007 seats? Incredible. But I guess if half the theatre is going for $400-$500 a ticket, I guess not that incredible.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
#10HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/15/14 at 11:33pm
I know that. I'm not an idiot. But if it costs 600,000 a week to run, and so does Cinderella, it doesn't take a genius to think that's a little strange?
Logic would suggest Neil is probably making $200,000 or more per week, since I assume he's getting a percentage of the gross as well, so there's your difference. Seems pretty simple, actually.
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#11HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 7:05am
"I know that. I'm not an idiot. But if it costs 600,000 a week to run, and so does Cinderella, it doesn't take a genius to think that's a little strange?"
I know you're not an idiot, RM. I was just thinking out loud.
I don't know where the NYT gets its figures. Obviously, it isn't assuming NPH gets a percentage if the NYT thinks the weekly nut is always the same.
#12HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 7:10am
The NYT only quoted a $5 million start-up cost. The weekly nut I quoted was an average calculated by myself using the method shown in the screenshot.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 7/16/14 at 07:10 AM
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#13HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 1:00pmI wonder how much the new guy will get? I think if it has a running cost of even 500,000 that'll be a little steep to keep up with. But I assume at that point they'll have some money in the bank.
#14HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 2:14pm
Yuck! Looking forward to Rannells and all others, whatta show. Neil was great, but it dosen't need him.
Stephanatic
#15HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 5:28pm
Am i correct in that these figures for the running costs includes NPH's salary? if so, would it then be possible to look at the difference in cost when Rannells joins to see the difference in their pay? Not their exact pay, but just what the difference is between their two salaries
Darreyl with an L!
Updated On: 7/16/14 at 05:28 PM
#16HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 5:57pmThey do but that calculation won't be possible without additional data that is unlikely to be released publicly at this stage of the run (e.g., weekly nut with Andrew or the profit for one week with Andrew)
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#17HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 7:19pm
"The NYT only quoted a $5 million start-up cost. The weekly nut I quoted was an average calculated by myself using the method shown in the screenshot."
Thanks for the clarification, qolbinau. I'm beginning to understand the figures now.
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#18HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 10:43pmI'd be curious to compare these grosses to something like The River. Another small scale production, but I'm sure their running cost must be pretty high?
#19HEDWIG recoups
Posted: 7/16/14 at 11:08pmAnother small scale production with another huge salary...
