Why do Producers hate Bootlegs?- Page 2

[Wick3]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 8:39am

Sutton Ross said: ""Hamilton was making $300 million a week for more than 3 years! Hamilton's producers can definitely hire someone full time to do that."

Um, no."

I meant $3 million! Whoops! Must have had a few drinks already!

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 9:28am

itsjustmejonhotmailcom said: "A lot of it has to do with the way shows are set up. When a show is running the GM or Producer's office often takes care of that. When a show closes, there usually isn't anyone left on the payroll to monitor those things or respond to reports of bootlegs."

This is a critical point that's overlooked in the above. Producers only relate to productions, not to the underlying properties, and rights holders don't really have the wherewithal (not to mention that there is not really much to fight about).

Regarding what Stone said, I'm not even sure that is his firmly held conviction so much as a throwaway but it is also worth remembering that producers do not speak with a unified voice on this (or anything) and many of his colleagues strongly disagree.  

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 9:29am

Updated On: 5/30/20 at 09:29 AM

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 9:30am

Updated On: 5/30/20 at 09:30 AM

[fosterfan2]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 11:38am

Call_me_jorge said: "David Stone is ahead of his time and we truly don’t deserve him.

There are so many bootlegs on YouTube, it’s kind of curious why none of them have been taken down. Like why are the several bootlegs of An*thing Goes not being copyrighted by Roundabout or how come you still see the Ca*rie video? I just think, producers don’t care/are complicit to the illegal videos."

There was a bootleg on YouTube of Katrina Lenk singing "Being Alive" in Company,but it was taken down. It was obviously from one of the previews before the shutdown. Someone connected with the show must've found out about it.

[schubox]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 11:56am

fosterfan2 said: "Call_me_jorge said: "David Stone is ahead of his time and we truly don’t deserve him.

There are so many bootlegs on YouTube, it’s kind of curious why none of them have been taken down. Like why are the several bootlegs of An*thing Goes not being copyrighted by Roundabout or how come you still see the Ca*rie video? I just think, producers don’t care/are complicit to the illegal videos."

There was a bootleg on YouTube of Katrina Lenk singing "Being Alive" in Company,but it was taken down. It was obviously from one of the previews before the shutdown. Someone connected with the show must've found out about it."

Yeah the second preview was recently released. 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 12:22pm

HogansHero said: "itsjustmejonhotmailcom said: "A lot of it has to do with the way shows are set up. When a show is running the GM or Producer's office often takes care of that. When a show closes, there usually isn't anyone left on the payroll to monitor those things or respond to reports of bootlegs."

This is a critical point that's overlooked inthe above. Producers only relate to productions, not to the underlying properties, and rights holders don't really have the wherewithal (not to mention that there is not really much to fight about).

Regarding what Stone said, I'm noteven sure that is his firmly held conviction so much as a throwaway but it is also worth remembering that producers do not speak with a unified voice on this (or anything) and many of his colleagues strongly disagree."

Well, what about shows currently running with a dozen or so bootlegs on YouTube. Not counting Wicked, you can easily find videos of Phantom, Mean Girls, The Book of Mormon, and while it was running Waitress. I think many of those shows producers have adopted the same attitude as the Wicked producers and it’s only growing the mentality that they are good marketing tools. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 3:45pm

Call_me_jorge said: "Well, what about shows currently running with a dozen or so bootlegs on YouTube. Not counting Wicked, you can easily find videos of Phantom, Mean Girls, The Book of Mormon, and while it was running Waitress. I think many of those shows producers have adopted the same attitude as the Wicked producers and it’s only growing the mentality that they are good marketing tools."

You can "think" whatever you want, but you would be wrong and wishing doesn't make it so. And as to one of those shows I know that as a matter of fact. Wanna know who doesn't agree with you? Follow the money. 

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 5/30/20 at 8:34pm

Call_me_jorge said: "Well, what about shows currently running with a dozen or so bootlegs on YouTube. Not counting Wicked, you can easily find videos of Phantom, Mean Girls, The Book of Mormon, and while it was running Waitress. I think many of those shows producers have adopted the same attitude as the Wicked producers and it’s only growing the mentality that they are good marketing tools."

That's definitely not true for Waitress. I remember walking by the theater/stage door one night and there was a kerfuffle because they caught someone filming. They were preparing to send security in to make the person delete the footage. Also, I'm pretty sure Sara Bareilles has commented asking people to not tape the show.