WTF?...Spamalot grabs Grammy...- Page 2

[greenegirl87]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 8:54pm

I believe a huge percentage of the reason a cast album wins is due to sales. It sold an incredible amount.

Are all the Grammies based mostly on sales?? Because that pretty much sucks, but does explain a lot...

[Ladyofthe Lake]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:03pm

If you enjoy the cast recording of Spamalot you have a lame and childish sense of humor and no ear for good music.

Ah, yes. Directing personal insults at perfect strangers is an effective way to make them see your point of view. Thank you so much for pointing out the error of my ways.

Go out and buy the cast recordings of the shows they are making fun of/ripping off (including any Forbidden Broadway CD).

Since you phrased it so nicely...no.

Excuse me while I go bleed a little.

Go right ahead. Take all the time you need.

Sorry...it was a long day, I'm a bit cranky, and that note just hit me wrong.

[jv92]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:07pm

Alright, pardon the language (which will most likely be censored by the board)-

Spamalot is a ****ing piece of ****. It's a Vegas version of Forbidden Broadway with half the originality and the Grammy voters should really **** themselves.
The Grammy people are so ****ing obsesed with big corporations and brand names, it's disgusting. Updated On: 2/8/06 at 09:07 PM

[jv92]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:14pm

Well, on a happier note, two very deserving films won in film categories.
"Ray" won for film soundtrack and
"The Incredibles" won for orchestral arangement or something like that.

[Chrysanthemum62001]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:16pm

This really makes me angry. The Grammy's are such bullsh*t. I also think it should have gone to Piazza, though I would have loved to see it go to Hair or DRS.

[jv92]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:17pm

Eric Idle, don't come back...ever!

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:22pm

I've heard multiple times that the Grammy voters usually don't even listen to all of the Best Show Album nominees, and will often just pick the easy choice, i.e. "Oh, I love Monty Python. I guess I'll just vote for 'Spamalot.'"

[Kitzarina]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:23pm

Do you people not remember how Wicked won over Assassins last year? In what universe is that even possible?!

It's all about sales my friends. All about sales and name recognition.

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:24pm

Somebody string him up on a cross and see if he's still looking on the bright side of life.

I have these horrible nightly recurring nightmares (not really) about further adaptations of other Monty Python movies. Just think, there's an endless supply of television show episodes and skits to provide further material for the stage. Broadway will be overrun by British humor.

Although I might stomach an Ab Fab musical. Might be kind of funny. Patsi's big act one aria, "I haven't eaten since 1969" or whatever it is (I'm no Ab Fab expert... I just like it!)

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:26pm

>> I believe a huge percentage of the reason a cast album wins is due to sales. It sold an incredible amount.

Sales have nothing to do with it. I am a voting member of the recording academy and here is how it works:

EVERYONE gets to vote in the "major" category - that is record of the year, song of the year, best new artist, etc...

Then, there are about 35-40 "categories" and each category has anywhere from 1-5 awards sub-classification.

Each voting member gets to vote in up to 5 "categories" -- and you are reminded to only vote for what you know.

For example, in the "Country" category, there were many awards - maybe 8 -- but I didn't vote in the country category, because it's not my circle of expertise.

Considering most of the voting members of the academy couldn't care less about Broadway or theatrical recordings, I will guess very few ballots are even counted in this category. Most of the members of the academy are record industry people -- producers and engineers and record execs. There are some artists, but mostly, it's industry people. To become a voting member of the recording academy, you must have a body of work and you must be able to prove it.

Unlike the Tony awards, which is really a marketing tool owned by the producers, the recording academy (Grammy awards) are very much an insiders party. The voting is very serious business and because we can only vote in 5 categories, we have to pick our votes wisely... and not blow it on a category we don't care about.

I can pretty much guarantee that sales have nothing to do with a theatrical recording win or loss... nor does the quality of a show or its stars. We're talking about recordings, and sometimes good shows make mediocre recordings and vice versa.

One of my records was nominated a few years ago, and it wasn't a great recording (not my fault - most cast records can't compete with a studio recording), but the show was extremely popular and the CD outsold every other show of that season by a factor of 10... but we didn't win, because our recording wasn't the best of that year. The voters aren't deaf. Thankfully.

Hopefully, I'll have another nomination eventually, and hopefully, my peers will judge it based on quality, not sales or the underlying show's popularity.
Updated On: 2/8/06 at 09:26 PM

[Chrysanthemum62001]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:26pm

Oh, I remember, Kitz! And I was *very* angry!

[stage_door76]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:28pm

I totally agree, this whole think is just getting ridiculous.

I am SO over this show.

How stupid.

When I'm angry, I become relatively inarticulate...

[Ladyofthe Lake]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:37pm

I never tried to make you see my point of view. If you fail to see it now you're probably a lost cause. I believe my intention was only to insult.

Congratulations. You served your intention well, even managing to reinforce it with yet another insult. Great job!

I'd say something here about going to watch my favorite pro wrestler, but I'm not familiar with any and am not ambitious enough to do a Google search just to prolong my attack of sarcasm...

[DramaDork925]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:42pm

My anger-ridden blog entry about this:

How could Spamalot beat Light in the Piazza for Best Musical Show Album. What the hell? I like Spamalot and all, but Light in the Piazza is probably the most beautiful music in my CD collection right now. Adam Guettel is probably the best new composer to come around in awhile. I mean, he's Richard Roger's grandson for christsakes! I would've put Spamalot on my LEAST likely to win that award. I mean it was against Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Spelling Bee and Hair in addition to that, and all of those are far superior scores. I own all of them and listen to them all except Spamalot. Spamalot has a tendency to grate on my nerves. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is fun and has Norbert ('nuff said), Spelling Bee has some FANTASTIC songs (The I Love You Song... one of the most beautiful songs), Hair is a fabulous recording with some of the best singers/actors working on Broadway today and Light in the Piazza is a stunning, beautiful score with the most amazing performances by Victoria Clark, Kelli O'Hara and Matthew Morrison. Listen to "Love to Me" or "Fable" and then compare it to ANY song on the Spamalot recording. There is no comparison. How does Spamalot beat it for the Grammy AND Tony. Unfreakin'believable.


Very annoyed by this.

[Kitzarina]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:42pm

I enjoy Spamalot. I was the Lady of the Lake for Halloween this year.

However, that does not mean it was the best musical of the year or that it had the best album. That's my only contention.

[Zenachick]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:44pm

I enjoyed the spamalot cast album and DRS and Spelling Bee. Overall, i feel that Spamalot is the most interesting to listen to. DRS just ticks me off everytime I get to John's disclaimer-it was funny the first time, but then it gets old. Spelling Bee is great but all of the different goodbyes are kind of dull when listening to the cd. I had no interest in seeing Piazza so I can't really say much about the recording. I think Spamalot is the recording that I enjoy the most without skipping over songs.

[C is for Company]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:49pm

Piazza was easily the most qualified for any honorary award. For it to be discarded like that just annoys me, but to lose to THAT. Sorry, but it just frustrates me, Piazza is easily one of the best recordings out there in the past year

[Zenachick]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:52pm

Just out of curiousity, have you seen all of the other shows? I can't make a judgement about Piazza since i haven't seen it. I don't quite understand why people seem to hate Spamalot

[C is for Company]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 9:57pm

I've seen all the nominees for best musical, score, etc. I made sure to hit every last one of the major awards shows. I make a sound judgement with Piazza first, then Bee, then DRS, then Spamalot

[Zenachick]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:07pm

I think that the general public likes to be entertained. Most people don't want to go to a show, at least a musical, and see real life. One of the reasons I do not want to see Piazza is the fact that it is based in the real world. It seems boring to me. I know my opinion is not everyone's so I try and find out people's reasonings behind why they like and hate shows. I liked Spamalot because it is lively and contains a variety of styles of music within the show. The lyrics are also funny and interesting.

[EponineThenardier]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:07pm

"I don't quite understand why people seem to hate Spamalot"

I don't really either, it's like the new Wicked. Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

It does seem that eveyone on this board rather have a giant redwood up their ass and complain and personally attack each other because they have nothing better to do.
Updated On: 2/8/06 at 10:07 PM

[Zenachick]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:09pm

Believe me I know ;>) I really like to try and understand why if I can. The only show I have ever hated was footloose

[C is for Company]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:10pm

I think you overstate that with 'everyone'. I for one do not and make justifiable opinions in a polite and, I hope, coherent manner. I also have attacked nobody, so I resent that statement. If I can't post here without being said to have a redwood up my ass then something is definitely wrong here.

[CJR]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:17pm

jv92, get a grip. Please.

And yes, I'm 'brave enough' to admit that I'm pleased Spamalot won. Hey, I'm proud as hell lol

[EponineThenardier]

Posted: 2/8/06 at 10:26pm

Alright, a lot of the people on this board (and not C is for Company). But you have to admit that it's mainly just fighting to see who gets the last snide comment. It's awfully pathetic.