"Promoting Promiscuity"
"Promoting Promiscuity"
#0"Promoting Promiscuity"
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:04amMy mom said she doesn't agree with RENT's message of "sexual promiscuity" and that sort of thing. I've told her it's not a show about sex, it's about living life the the fullest, but she's just not getting it. It's very frustrating. I know it doesn't seem important, but I can't drive over here and the only way I can see RENT is if I can get her to go with me. (The nearest theater that's showing it is 2 hours away). What can I tell her to make her understand??
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I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
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And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
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"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
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I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
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"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
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Kringas
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/27/05
#1re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:06amWhat are her grounds for saying it promotes promiscuity?
"How do you like THAT 'misanthropic panache,' Mr. Goldstone?" - PalJoey
#2re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:08am
She heard La Vie Boheme.
I was surprised, because she's usually so open-minded.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
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#3re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:08am
You should check for showtimes tomorrow or even Tuesday. A lot of them just haven't been announced.
And, tell your mom there's a laundry list of movies that are a hell of a lot worse than Rent that in the end don't even convey a message, nevermind a message as beautiful as that of Rent.
Sorry if that didn't make sense, it's late.
Idina: Somehow I got myself to the stage, came out at the end of the show, and I had some kind of closure.
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 03:08 AM
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
#4re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:12amThat's a good idea. :) As for checking the times, I don't even live near a theatre that HAS it - I'm stuck here in Germany. :| So it's drive to Frankfurt or Luxembourg, basically.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
I remember days
Or at least I try
But as years go by
They're sort of haze
And the bluest ink
Isn't really sky
And at times I think
I would gladly die
For a day of sky
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
And Starbucks will use the words 'large' and 'small', not pretentious crap like grande and tall.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"You could get away with anything if you call it art and tell people who don't like it that it's cutting edge culture." --vmlinnie
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
#5re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:23am
Oh, I didn't realize you were out of the country.
Good luck, I hope your mom comes around...
Idina: Somehow I got myself to the stage, came out at the end of the show, and I had some kind of closure.
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
Some guy: You looked great!
Idina: Thanks...I WAS SO HIGH! 8/21/05
WOSQ
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/03
#6re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 10:02am
Isn't Rent rated PG or PG-13?
Certainly Mom can buy into that.
And even if it does "promote promiscuity" or anything like that, Rent will not make YOU promiscuious.
And besides, your mother and I are probably roughly the same age. Ask her what it was like to be on the barricades during the sexual revolution!
On second thought, better not.
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true. And that would be unacceptable."
--Carrie Fisher
#7re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 10:18amDepicting and promoting are two different things. Tell your Mom to use a dictionary and lighten up.
"They hear drums, we hear music."- Passion.
#8re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 10:31am
Doubt THAT will get your mom to change her mind...lol. There are a lot of colorful things mentioned in La Vie Boheme, but I don't see how it really promotes promiscuity. Maybe if you explain what's going on at that point in the show?
Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel like you're less than f**ckin' perfect!
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 10:31 AM
#9re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 10:33amIt's not like there's a scene saying "Have sex, do drugs, and get AIDS". THe piece is a portrait of a certain group of people, and in no-way promotes the actvities it depicts.
#10re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 10:41am
I can't recall anything about "promiscuity" in La Vie Boheme. The sexual things are all fully capable of being a healthy and vibrant part of a commited relationship. Or are about acceptance of others.
I would quote the song here, but we have that "no lyrics" rule. 
The point of the song has nothing to do with sex, at all.
Learing about the bohemian lifestyle and the importance, of truth, love and beauty would be my recomendation.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#11re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 11:20amIt mentions leather and dildos--actually two very safe methods of sexual release...nobody ever got sick from riding latex...or even itchy...
#12re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 11:50am
too bad the only song (contact) that mentioned latex was cut
#13re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 12:13pmRent actually promotes monogamy. There are two couples in committed relationships and one couple at the beginning of a relationship. Sleeping around is not glorified.
#14re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 12:22pm
Homosexuality alone (especially male to male) in A LOT of peoples minds equals sex right off the bat. When most people think of 2 men together, unfortunatley the only image that comes to mind is one of explicit sex promiscuity and multiple partners. Its rarely of love, commitment or family. that may be the problem alone in this case (unfortunatley).
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 12:22 PM
Flahooley
Leading Actor Joined: 11/17/05
#15re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 1:10pm
Tell her that you are going to swear off showtunes and devote yourself to gangsta rap. Buy some "bling, adopt an Afrian American dialect and wear your trousers low enough to show your asscrack.
She'll beg you to stop and probably voluntarily host a RENT karaoke night!
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 01:10 PM
grizzabella
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/05
#16re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 1:47pm
Drama, I'm of the same generation as your mom,(though there are differences) and maybe I can give you some insight into her concerns and how you might be able to get her to see RENT with you. I'm assuming that you are a fairly young teen, 14 - 16? If that's the case, she's worried about what lessons you're learning about sexuality from the media and the culture. She's afraid that you'll see the characters in RENT as glamorous and that you may want to be like them. She's afraid you'll make mistakes, perhaps mistakes that have profound consequences, such as becoming HIV positive, or getting pregnant. I don't know if you're a boy or a girl. She's afraid of your taking on adult responsibilities too soon.
You told her that the show is about "living life to the fullest." I can understand if she doesn't find that comforting, as it's coming from you.
Actually, the show is about a group of friends who are trying to survive and grow in difficult circumstances. There is sexual activity, but there is - and here is the more important theme - also selfless love, committment and hope. They still dream, and try to make their dreams come true even in the face of poverty and death. You might ask your mom to see the film with you and then talk to you about it - her concerns and yours. These themes are universal, and I guarantee she will understand these themes. Let her know that the action of the show takes place in the 1980's and the characters are also products of their time. The choices they make will not necessarily be the choices YOU make. Let her know that your desire to see the film is not a total rejection of the lessons she's tried to teach you. If you don't whine or brow-beat her, she may come around if you show her you are reasonable and responsible, too.
Good luck. I'm looking forward to seeing RENT myself.
"And the postman sighed as he scratched his head, you really rather thought she ought to be dead..."
Flahooley
Leading Actor Joined: 11/17/05
#17re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 1:52pm
That is a very wise response.
Listen to Grizz, Drama. Besides, RENT the film will be around forever. Worst case scenario is that you will have every chance to see it later.
Also, I think your mother should be proud that she has a child who is moved by a story about friendship and compassion.
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 01:52 PM
grizzabella
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/11/05
#18re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 1:59pmThanks, Flahooley.
"And the postman sighed as he scratched his head, you really rather thought she ought to be dead..."
#19re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 3:57pmWell, how old are you? I wouldn't let me child see that movie unless she were 15 or older probably.
#20re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 4:11pmur mom doesn't seem too open minded to me, dramaparox
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
#21re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 4:33pm
tell your mother RENT is about
Life
Loss
Love
Acceptance
Understanding
Friendship
No mother could say no to that
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
whateverman
Featured Actor Joined: 11/2/05
#22re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 4:44pmits probably the gay issues folks disguised by "promoting promiscuity! most moms and dads aint havin it!
#23re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 4:48pm
whateverman, that is as much as a ridiculous assumption as the one his mother is making.......assumptions are never a good thing.
It is ridiculous to set a detective story in New York City. New York City is itself a detective story...
AGATHA CHRISTIE, Life magazine, May 14, 1956
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 04:48 PM
whateverman
Featured Actor Joined: 11/2/05
#24re: 'Promoting Promiscuity'
Posted: 11/21/05 at 4:50pm
sweety. are u kidding? wake up itno the real world. please. cuz clearly u are asleep. i dont knwo what plant u are on..but this is AMERICA!! and the majority of america is BIBLE BELT!!!!
totally agree with ozone: "Homosexuality alone (especially male to male) in A LOT of peoples minds equals sex right off the bat. When most people think of 2 men together, unfortunatley the only image that comes to mind is one of explicit sex promiscuity and multiple partners. Its rarely of love, commitment or family. that may be the problem alone in this case (unfortunatley). "
Updated On: 11/21/05 at 04:50 PM
