chicagodannyd
Stand-by Joined: 4/7/09
#2Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/4/20 at 6:09pm
Agreed. There are a lot of good cops out there. I know some. I think all of this is showing how broken their training and hiring system is. There has to be reorganization across the board to weed out these cops that are doing these things.
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Alex Kulak2
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/11/16
#3Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/4/20 at 10:20pm
As someone once said, if there are 12 bad cops and 1000 cops who say or do nothing about the 12, there are 1012 bad cops.
fosterfan2
Broadway Star Joined: 8/7/11
#4Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/5/20 at 11:04amUnfortunately many, NOT ALL,police departments have been infiltrated by white supremacists. I have a good friend who used to work in a police department,who told me this 11 years ago. This was going on before he and I met each other. I also agree with the OP 100%. Updated On: 9/5/20 at 11:04 AM
#5Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/6/20 at 9:14amI do wonder if it’s the kind of profession that attracts people who get off on violence.
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yankeefan7
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/14/12
#6Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/6/20 at 10:25am
Yes, there are bad police officers but there are also bad lawyers, politicians, doctors etc. It is not fair to judge group on the actions of a small minority. I totally understand that bad cops can take lives which is something much different than being bad/crooked in another profession. Just remember, being a cop is not an easy job. You are putting your life on the line every day and the pay is not going to make you incredibly rich. Look yourself in the mirror and ask if you would want their job. When they doing something wrong, we just have to ensure they are punished to the full extent of the law. I am not an police expert so I do not know what additional type of training would help them do a better job. I think we have seen in police departments like NYPD, that more police departments have more non-white officers than white officers.
Updated On: 9/6/20 at 10:25 AM
Same As It Ever Was
Understudy Joined: 6/4/20
#7Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/6/20 at 5:27pmOnly one of those groups systematically murders Black people. There’s another about a cop shooting an unarmed black person just about every day at this point.
Same As It Ever Was
Understudy Joined: 6/4/20
#8Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/6/20 at 5:27pmOnly one of those groups systematically murders Black people. There’s another about a cop shooting an unarmed black person just about every day at this point.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#9Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 12:15pm
How about Chicago that has strong gun laws? They have nightly shooting incidents resulting in injuries and deaths. Are you ok with the slaughter going on nightly because it is not done by cops?.News media is silent other than reporting the statistics.
There are bad apples in every group. Reports of BLM intimidating innocent people. are not deemed newsworthy. BLM is a group with 3black women in charge. They are all devout marxist with a goal of toppling our govt and installing Marxism as the abiding law of the country. Sadly it looks like we are headed in that direction anyhow
I am glad I am not young and that I will not live under Marxist rule for long
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Updated On: 9/8/20 at 12:15 PM
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/13
#10Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 12:52pm
BLM is a group with 3 black women in charge. They are all devout marxist with a goal of toppling our govt and installing Marxism as the abiding law of the country.
#11Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 2:42pm
Mr Roxy said: "How about Chicago that has strong gun laws? They have nightly shooting incidents resulting in injuries and deaths. Are you ok with the slaughter going on nightly because it is not done by cops?.News media is silent other than reporting the statistics.
There are bad apples in every group. Reports of BLM intimidating innocent people. are not deemed newsworthy. BLM is a group with 3black women in charge. They are all devout marxist with a goal of toppling our govt and installing Marxism as the abiding law of the country. Sadly it looks like we are headed in that direction anyhow
I am glad I am not young and that I will not live under Marxist rule for long"
Congrats Roxy. Everything in this post is false.
AEA AGMA SM
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
#12Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 2:59pm
Mr Roxy said: "How about Chicago that has strong gun laws? They have nightly shooting incidents resulting in injuries and deaths."
If anything I would say it's an argument for why we need strong national gun laws, as a state by state approach clearly doesn't work, especially for a major city that's right on the border of two other states.
#13Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 3:15pm
Mr Roxy said: "How about Chicago that has strong gun laws? They have nightly shooting incidents resulting in injuries and deaths. Are you ok with the slaughter going on nightly because it is not done by cops?.News media is silent other than reporting the statistics.
There are bad apples in every group. Reports of BLM intimidating innocent people. are not deemed newsworthy. BLM is a group with 3black women in charge. They are all devout marxist with a goal of toppling our govt and installing Marxism as the abiding law of the country. Sadly it looks like we are headed in that direction anyhow
I am glad I am not young and that I will not live under Marxist rule for long"
Chicago/Illinois borders states with some of the most lax gun laws in the nation. Any illegal gun found on the streets of Chicago come from neighboring Gary, Indiana or Wisconsin. The shootings in Chicago is tragic, but the issue stems from our cities history of over policing the black and Hispanic neighborhoods.
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#14Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 8:19pm
Mr Roxy said: "How about Chicago that has strong gun laws? They have nightly shooting incidents resulting in injuries and deaths. Are you ok with the slaughter going on nightly because it is not done by cops?.News media is silent other than reporting the statistics.
There are bad apples in every group. Reports of BLM intimidating innocent people. are not deemed newsworthy. BLM is a group with 3black women in charge. They are all devout marxist with a goal of toppling our govt and installing Marxism as the abiding law of the country. Sadly it looks like we are headed in that direction anyhow
I am glad I am not young and that I will not live under Marxist rule for long"
You actually had the audacity to type out that amount of word salad and hit "post message"...unFRIGGINbelievable!!
You should be ashamed.
Pauly3
Featured Actor Joined: 12/12/11
#15Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 9:48pm
Same As It Ever Was said: "Only one of those groups systematically murders Black people. There’s another about a cop shooting an unarmed black person just about every day at this point."
Yankeefan7's point is valid. Same As It Ever Was' point in his/her response quoted here is not valid. Not only was the point not valid, it was reckless. Look up the statistics of how many unarmed black people were killed by police in 2019 and compare it to the number of unarmed white people killed by police in 2019. And note that "unarmed" doesn't infer innocence or lack of criminal behavior on the part of the unarmed victims. Perhaps an honest conversation can occur once armed with a little knowledge (although I hold no real optimism).
Pauly3
Featured Actor Joined: 12/12/11
#16Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 9:57pm
ErikJ972 said: "Congrats Roxy. Everything in this post is false."
What Roxy said about Chicago was not false. What Roxy said about the founders being devout Marxists may be true or false. Co-founder Patrisse Cullors has stated she and another co-founder, Alicia Garza, are trained Marxists. Perhaps stating one's training doesn't make one devout to that training. Or maybe in this case it does. I don't know, and I'm guessing you don't either. Like most large groups, there will be bad apples just as Roxy (once again) correctly pointed out. BLM is no exception.
Pauly3
Featured Actor Joined: 12/12/11
#17Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/8/20 at 10:05pm
Alex Kulak2 said: "As someone once said, if there are 12 bad cops and 1000 cops who say or do nothing about the 12, there are 1012 bad cops."
Your point (or rather someone's) is shortsighted. Swap any other group of people for the word "cops" and the meaning doesn't change.
#18Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 8:02am
Pauly3 said: "Same As It Ever Was said: "Only one of those groups systematically murders Black people. There’s another about a cop shooting an unarmed black person just about every day at this point."
Yankeefan7's point is valid. Same As It Ever Was' point in his/her response quoted here is not valid. Not only was the pointnot valid, it was reckless. Look up the statistics of how many unarmed black people were killed by police in 2019 and compare it to the number of unarmed white people killed by police in 2019. And note that "unarmed" doesn't infer innocence or lack of criminal behavior on the part of the unarmed victims. Perhaps anhonest conversation can occur once armed with a little knowledge (although I hold no real optimism)."
This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts that has been debunked over and over again. When you take into account population, black people are more than 2x as likely to be killed by the police than white people.
Also Roxy said the gun violence in Chicago isn't covered in the media. Which is wrong. Just like everything else he wrote in that word salad.
#19Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 10:50amMarxism is the dominant academic praxis for cultural analysis. Saying someone is a “trained Marxist” is just a euphemism for “went to a good college and got uppity.” It doesn’t actually mean they’re functional communists.
carnzee
Broadway Star Joined: 9/2/11
#20Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 11:07am
Mr Roxy said:
I am glad I am not young and that I will not live under Marxist rule for long"
What do you have against Harpo, Chico, and Groucho?
Pauly3
Featured Actor Joined: 12/12/11
#21Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 2:52pm
ErikJ972 said: "Pauly3 said: "Same As It Ever Was said: "Only one of those groups systematically murders Black people. There’s another about a cop shooting an unarmed black person just about every day at this point."
Yankeefan7's point is valid. Same As It Ever Was' point in his/her response quoted here is not valid. Not only was the pointnot valid, it was reckless. Look up the statistics of how many unarmed black people were killed by police in 2019 and compare it to the number of unarmed white people killed by police in 2019. And note that "unarmed" doesn't infer innocence or lack of criminal behavior on the part of the unarmed victims. Perhaps anhonest conversation can occur once armed with a little knowledge (although I hold no real optimism)."
This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts that has been debunked over and over again. When you take into account population, black people are more than 2x as likely to be killed by the police than white people.
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I didn't misrepresent anything, and the 2019 statistic I mentioned has not been debunked. Statistics can be analyzed in a number of ways, but what so many avoid is crime rates. You, and those like you, focus instead on population and completely ignore crime rates. Throwing out examples of wild racial disparities and using population to demonstrate your argument's merit is unreasonable at best. Crime rates and their disparities provide a far better explanation for population-based disparities in police shootings.
#22Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 4:48pm
Change your username Mikey? Blah blah blah. More racist bull****.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/07/16/the-research-is-clear-white-people-are-not-more-likely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/
Pauly3
Featured Actor Joined: 12/12/11
#23Say what you want, but for me, I am totally fed up with the police in the USA.
Posted: 9/9/20 at 5:18pm
ErikJ972 said: "Change your username Mikey? Blah blah blah. More racist bull****.
https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/07/16/the-research-is-clear-white-people-are-not-more-likely-than-black-people-to-be-killed-by-police/"
Mikey who? Interesting article you chose to use in support of your argument. However, it corroborates my point. The author completely avoids crime rates. Along with the content, the first part of the article's title, "The Research is Clear:" is indeed indicative of more racial bull****. The author did write something that is true though: "You can’t solve a problem unless you know what the problem is in the first place". If only the author, and so many others, actually cared about this truth.
