RUBEN & CLAY’S FIRST ANNUAL CHRISTMAS CAROL FAMILY FUN PAGEANT SPECTACULAR REUNION SHOW- PREVIEW THREAD

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 10:05am
Well, I would say I doubt they’d ever say they had a horrible time even if they did. It could also be they like Clay and/or Ruben (or the charity) so want to support them. Or they genuinely had a good time. Of course, I didn’t see the segment so maybe something else is going on.
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Posted: 12/14/18 at 10:24am
With a discount code at 50% off, you can get tickets for $48 in the rear mezz. Orchestra seats would be $85.
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Posted: 12/14/18 at 10:29am

Sorry/not sorry the positive reviews are upsetting.

What are you talking about?

Here's another one.

That's not a review.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 1:27pm

And free (or nearly so) is pretty darned affordable.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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Posted: 12/14/18 at 1:50pm

MassiveMeGo said: "All of The View ladies went and this morning the review."

Is this one of those tests on how many words can you remove from a sentence, but your brain will fill them in for you?

Why are they mentioning it is very limited run? Like, it's a Christmas show?! It's not going to be extended through June...

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 2:05pm

dramamama611 said: "Usually, any donations are made AFTER costs are made. It's unlikely that everyone (or even anyone)is doing it for free. (But there's still rent, costumes, rights etc to be paid.)"

 

Wait a second, can we go back to this? 

I would have thought that the donations were built into the weekly running cost, but you're saying that's not the case? So if they don't meet their weekly nut, then no money is donated? And in this case, since the show is bombing financially, that is the same as saying that this show will not be donating a cent to charity. Correct? 

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 2:27pm

The performers and musicians involved need to be paid. The landlord needs to be paid. This isn't an instance of everyone donating their time and resources for a charitable cause. 

The production states that a "portion of the proceeds" will be going to the National Inclusion Project, not that they are just donating a sum of money. Money needs to be coming in for that portion to be taken out. 

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 2:39pm

Kad said: "The performers and musicians involved need to be paid. The landlord needs to be paid. This isn't an instance of everyone donating their time and resources for a charitable cause.

The production states that a"portionof the proceeds" will be going to the National Inclusion Project, not that they are just donating a sum of money. Money needs to be coming in for that portion to be taken out.
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Sure, that makes sense. I just figured that they would take the charity portion out of the gross, then use the rest of the gross to pay for the running costs, then whatever the rest of the gross doesn't cover will be paid for by the investors - or where ever the money usually comes from when a show doesn't meet its weekly running cost.

As you can probably tell, I don't have experience with the financial logistics of charity-contribution performances like this. Based on your and Dramamamma's comments, it sounds like what they're doing is pretty standard practice. So that's that. I guess it's just sort of sad that a show can market itself as donating to charity, when in reality it never actually does (whether through fault of their own, or not).

 

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 2:48pm

Clay and Ruben being on Broadway is its own form of charity, no?

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 3:05pm

From Vocab.com:  Proceeds are the money brought in from a transaction or event. ... Proceeds can mean either the gross money earned (all that was brought in) or the net (the money left after expenses). If you are very concerned about where the money you donate to charity goes, this is a good question to ask.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 4:19pm

I see you all working hard to diminish the show's success. Try not to hurt yourselves. 

Meanwhile:

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If you are in #nyc and want to see a FANTASTIC broadway show you must get tickets to see my friends @clayaiken @RubenStuddard @RubenAndClay #christmasshow I promise you will love it. They are magic together. Also: they will be performing on @foxandfriends this weekend! ??

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 4:30pm

MassiveMeGo said: "I see you all working hard to diminish the show's success. Try not to hurt yourselves."

The show made $20K per show last week, there is no success to diminish. Your mission is WAY harder.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 4:37pm

Hang onto that. Its all you've got. 

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 5:13pm

That's enough.  It's an OBJECTIVE measurement of success.   FRIENDS liking your show means nothing, btw.  Critics are SUBJECTIVE.   Finances are specific, finite and proof.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 5:29pm

Yup. The only objective success is box office. That said, if you like the show, then good times, you can see a show you want to see and not pay a lot to do it. Win-win! Beyond that, I'm not sure why you want to keep trying to convince us that everyone is loving it... and that is breaking box office records.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 6:35pm

 

Wow. Another deleted comment addressing MassiveMeGo's repeated refutation of literal facts in this thread. The mods are really doing a bang-up job of exercising judgment in which posts and posters to scrutinize on this board.

 

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 6:40pm

Nowadays, if you blink, a post is deleted.  At times, I am thinking did I actually post this or read this.  The real issue is there is no consistency on what is deleted or edited.

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Posted: 12/14/18 at 8:23pm
I was thinking about this show at work this morning...

This could have done very well (both critically and in the ratings) had it been done as a one-night only TV special. Hosting and main performances by Clay & Ruben, cut the awkward skits/dialogue and being in a legit team that could shape together bits, bring on other popular American Idol contestants, etc.

It’s a lot to expect people to pay actual money to see this product instead of paying in time at home. I don’t know how this was chosen as a limited-run show on Broadway when it could have been better in every possible way on television.
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Posted: 12/15/18 at 12:00pm

"I see you all working hard to diminish the show's success."

Nobody is working hard nor do they really have to try other than report the grosses.

"A long-time poster who thinks "Trumpian self-delusion" is actually an accurate description and not an attack."

Right?

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Posted: 12/16/18 at 6:31pm

"Surprisingly delightful"  "Audience completely won over"

BroadwayRadio‏ @BroadwayRadio 40m40 minutes ago

Michael Portantiere enjoyed @RubenAndClay! Hear what he had to say about it on #ThisWeekOnBroadway (starting at 51:15): https://broadwayradio.com/blog/2018/12/16/this-week-on-broadway-for-december-16-2018-to-kill-a-mockingbird-fabulation/ …

 

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Posted: 12/17/18 at 1:49pm

On the Town With Aubrey Reuben
Where All the Stars Shine Brightly!
December 15, 2018


Ruben & Clay's First Annual Christmas Show , at the Imperial Theatre features the two singers,  Ruben Studdard  and  Clay Aiken . Five other members in the cast, directed by  Jonathan Tessero , accompany them in a salute to the Christmas season. All are wonderful singers, and sing all the traditional Christmas songs. It is the perfect gift for the holidays. The audience enjoyed every moment, and gave the cast a standing ovation. We celebrated the opening at Copacabana. 

 

http://blacktiemagazine.com/New_York_Society/Aubrey_Reuben_December15_2018.htm

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Posted: 12/17/18 at 2:11pm
On show-score, the average critic score is 59 (out of a 100) and the average member score is 67. If this was an exam, its grade would either be a D or an F.

Again, I wish Clay or Ruben no ill will, but your incessant misconstruing of the facts including critical and public reception to this show are doing the show no favors.

The reality is that nothing you or we say on this thread will impact the show’s success or failure. If we were that powerful, Pretty Woman and Mean Girls would be flops and Torch Song would be breaking box office records
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Posted: 12/17/18 at 2:28pm

Just this.  "nothing you or we say on this thread will impact the show’s success or failure." Try to remember that.  

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Posted: 12/17/18 at 2:37pm

MassiveMeGo said: "Just this."nothing you or we say on this thread will impact the show’s success or failure." Try to remember that."

I will if you will. And one has to wonder if you know your misconstruing of facts isn’t helping the show succeed, why are you doing it? Is it just for attention? If so, that’s sad. 

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Posted: 12/17/18 at 2:51pm

Massive is aiken for attention...