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My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10

My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10

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#1My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 11:31am

Hi everyone. So I started a thread the other day about going to see Next to Normal for the first time knowing J. Robert Spencer was going to be out, and I was advised to see it anyway, because the show was that good. I ended up not getting rush tickets, but was able to get tickets from the very generous Mattrett, so I saw the show and didn't have to crane my neck from the front row!

This was the second-to-last "new musical" I had to see for 2008-2009 (still haven?t gotten around to Shrek) and, ultimately, was the third time I have been utterly disappointed in a show this season. I had insanely high expectation for 9 to 5 and found the show to be very "ho hum." I had similar expectations for West Side Story, and found myself even more bored out of my mind than I was at Dividing the Estate.

I had similar expectations for Next to Normal, because I had heard nothing but great things about the show from everyone I know that has seen it, and many people whose opinions I respect here on the boards. I went in expecting Alice Ripley's performance to be breathtaking, the story to be emotional and heartbreaking and the book/score to be earth-shattering.

I will start with Alice Ripley. She is giving a magnificent performance, and most likely win a Tony, but she is definitely not as untouchable as some of you make her out to be. The only reason I feel she appears a lock for this award is the lack of serious competition in the category. Nonetheless, and not having seen Sutton, Ripley IS giving the best nominated Leading Actress performance, but I would not be surprised if Allison Janney slipped in and took it from her... I also might not even be disappointed if such a thing were to happen.

As for the rest of the performances, there was nothing spectacular going on. The only exception was Jennifer Damiano, who is giving a great performance. I felt more teenage angst in her than I felt from the entire cast of Spring Awakening, and she has a great voice to boot. Aaron Tveit also has a great voice, but his spastic performance did not wow me. Adam Chanler-Berat was passable but annoying and Louis Hobson was nothing special.

Michael Berry was on for Dan and was, well, dreadful. In the scene where (SPOILER) Diana leaves, I cringed at the thought of Dan actually getting up and stopping her, just because I did not want to sit through any more of Berry's performance. (/SPOILER) His performance was too rigid and his voice was too harsh. Sadly, I did not enjoy the show enough to want to go back and see it with J. Robert Spencer. If it was his first performance, so be it, but still, I trusted you Next to Normal fans who gave me the green light to see it without him.

As for the story, I really, REALLY loved it (minus the forced ending). What a fantastic premise for a musical! I was absolutely captivated by everything on the surface, but found myself bored within the scenes, and I really don?t know why. A lot of things just fell flat and I was actually waiting for the scene to transition to something different, because I found myself just not caring about a lot of what was going on with the non-Diana characters. (-1 for Brian Yorkey)

Speaking of transitions, I absolutely loved the set. It was so fluid and fun to watch. Luckily it gave me a little more faith in the Scenic Design category this year, since Pal Joey and Guys and Dolls were not at all impressive. Nonetheless, the award is Billy's.

I am torn on the score. I LOVED the music. It was stunning and very cinematic. The lyrics, on the other hand, were awful and predictable. I don't know if anyone here caught The Black Monk off-Broadway this season, but I found myself in a similar situation. The lyrics were just... so bad and SO repetitive. (SPOILER) I mean, how many times can you say "I'm alive" in a song? especially when your character is dead? (/SPOILER) It just got irritating after a while. A lot of the rhyming was also forced, and in my book, the lyrics might keep Next to Normal from taking the Tony for Best Score, which it deserves. (-2 for Brian Yorkey)

So, overall, I really, really, really wanted to love Next to Normal, but I just didn't.

On the plus side, I caught the BRILLIANT 3:00 performance of God of Carnage, and man, can Matthew Warchus do no wrong? I really want him to tie with himself for Best Director of a Play (but if I had to choose, I would give it to him for Norman).


Updated On: 5/11/09 at 11:31 AM

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#2re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 11:54am

I'm sorry you did not enjoy it. re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
I think that Alice Ripley is giving a great performance, but not as mind-blowing as everyone is making it out to be. The only reason why is because this year's competition is pretty weak. Alice seems to have the Tony in the bag already, but I wouldn't be unhappy if Allison won instead.

I also sorry for being one of the ones for recommending the show to you when J. Robert Spencer wasn't there. However, I don't think Spencer would've changed your overall opinion and enjoyment anyway. Spencer is suitable in the role, but not good enough to enhance the show by that much (well maybe compared to Berry if Berry was that awful), but I don't know.

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#2re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 11:54am

I agree with a lot of what you said about Next to Normal. I really wanted to love it too, but was also disappointed. I think Alice will win, but if she was up against some of the other great performances of the decade (Clark in Piazza, Ebersole in Grey Gardens, LuPone in Gypsy) she wouldn't have a chance.

Glad you enjoyed God of Carnage though. Isn't Matthew Warchus awesome! Didn't he direct Boeing-Boeing last year too? If so he's put three amazing productions on Broadway without missing a beat.


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SporkGoddess
#3re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 12:02pm

I agree that a lot of the lyrics are cheesy, but I actually am starting to really like "I'm Alive"--it's a pretty clever song, IMO.


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Updated On: 5/11/09 at 12:02 PM

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#4re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 12:59pm

Finally someone I can agree with about this show!

I think the show has so much promise, but the whole show just comes off as "eh" to me. Ripley is fine in the role, but she didn't wow me. There were no big emotional break downs, no big dramatic scene. She just belts her face off, and that's about it.

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#5re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 1:00pm

I agree about Ripley; I don't think any year this decade, save for this one, was wholly weak enough for her performance to be the clear front-runner.

And I hold no grudge for your recommendation legally_popular, I think the show is worth seeing, but I just couldn't believe how much I did not enjoy Berry's performance. I started listening to the cast recording and J. Robert Spencer is much easier to listen to.

Whizzer - Yep, he did Boeing too, which I loved as well. His direction is just so exquisite it makes it seem like a director's job is effortless. Can't wait to see what he mounts on Broadway next.

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#6re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 1:04pm

Is J. Robert Spencer going to be back tomorrow night??


"If it walks like a Parks, if it wobbles like a Parks, then it's definitely fat and nobody loves it." --MA

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#7re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 1:06pm

^^ Probably. He was listed as being out on Sunday on Broadwayunderstudies, so I assume it was scheduled.

And Ripped, I agree completely. There is such a great story in this musical, but I feel like it just missed what it wanted to do.

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#8re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 3:09pm

"I agree about Ripley; I don't think any year this decade, save for this one, was wholly weak enough for her performance to be the clear front-runner."

..........what!? wow. no.

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#9re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 3:29pm

" agree that a lot of the lyrics are cheesy, but I actually am starting to really like "I'm Alive"--it's a pretty clever song, IMO."

Totally agree. When first hearing the song, I thought it was terrible.... I remember thinking "okay you're alive we get it" (This was before seeing the show and knowing the irony.) But now I listen to the song quite often and think it's a great song, with quite clever lyrics, in context.

I'm disappointed to see the dislike for the show on this thread. IMO, it's the best show this season.... But maybe I just like it so much because I'm so displeased with the other offerings this season. It seems to be the only show with any merit to it, IMO.


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#10re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 3:57pm

I agree about the show. I was very under whelmed by it. I think a lot of the problem for me was that is a sing through. Many times I found them singing about something for four minutes (and some pretty lame lyrics) which could have been conveyed in one well written line.
With all the sing through segments all the score began to sound a like after a while causing the extreme sense of boredom I began feeling at the end of act 1. Once bored it was hard to come back and I was anxious for the show to end.


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obsessedjb
#11re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 4:10pm

Definitely the first one to have a negative opinion about Michael's performance that I've read. Personally, I liked him

Alison88
#12re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 4:44pm

Yeah... he was definitely not dreadful. I'm honestly just disappointed mostly in the score. I was waiting for the song "I miss the mountains" cause I had heard how amazing it was... bleh. Nothing was really memorable to me. The only song I loved was "Superboy" and I thought the opening number was great. I remember listening to a song from previous productions called "Growing up unstable" and learned they had left it out of the Broadway show because it didn't fit somehow. I don't understand because I thought it would have been a great act two opener. And that was one song I thought was awesome.

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#13re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 5:00pm

You're Allison Janney sneaking in situation sounds very reminiscent of David Hyde Pierce winning the Tony over Raul Esparza...


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#14re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 5:27pm

I had a completely different reaction. I thought the show was wildly original and I thought it was very successful in achieving its goals. The initial exposition was tough going, I thought, but once we reached I Miss the Mountains the show seemed to fly by.

I'm sorry you thought a lot of the scenes fell flat. I found them nearly riveting. Just as you can't explain why they didn't work for you, it's hard to explain why they did work for me. All the actors just seemed so invested and although it was intense and tough going there for a while, I was continually interested in the story and in the characters. The one area where I felt let down was when Diana left. I didn't really "buy it." But all the relationships seemed very clearly defined and I found a lot was at stake and I was anxious to see how it would play out.

I found this to be the most exciting score of the year, one that really worked to bring out the essence of the story in a unique way. The staging was also original and clever. I just found with this show a reason to sit up and give my full attention which I didn't feel as much with other musicals I've seen so far (Billy Elliot, West Side Story, Shrek, 9 to 5).

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#15re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 6:28pm

I don't agree with you about Aaron Tveit (spastic?) He is not..I've seen Sutton in Shrek, and Alice in N2N, and clearly Alice is by far better

Harpz2006
#16re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/11/09 at 6:30pm

I was very moved by the show and thought Alice gave one of the best, most believable performance I've ever seen... and Aaron was pretty graceful, I thought!

#17re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/13/09 at 12:32am

I saw 4 of 5 noms, and I agree the Tony's Alice's. However, I don't seem to get the lack of ho hum-ness for Sutton. It's probably because of the distaste for Shrek, which I'm in the minority and truly enjoy. That being said, Alice is given a LOT more to work with, and I always give props for someone who can cry on cue 8 times a week. I've always good comedy is harder to pull off and I see a strong character arch with Sutton, but I am biased. Janney I didn't get, though. She was lovely, but I would have nominated Block over her. Nothing earth-shattering, however. I still say Alice with Sutton as a dark horse.

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#18re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/13/09 at 2:15pm

I was there Sunday afternoon as well, and thought Berry was in every way remarkable; he seemed entirely integrated into the company, as if he'd played the show for weeks. If his voice isn't as attractive as Spencer's (which I just heard on the CD), the difference seems marginal. The role is a challenge, because the man is so beaten down, in effect weakened. He really cannot be played like Billy Bigelow, or the show would make no sense.

I think the show's ambitions are so extraordinary, I forgive it's occasional lapses, (to me, there are still a few too many moments that suggest social satire, despite all the collaborators telling us they cut all that). It dares to be 'earnest' however, in an era when all must be irony-tinged to be art.

Why does any serious story about ordinary people in ordinary circumstances have to get the put-down "Lifetime movie"? Let's give that a rest. Musical theater that takes on the domestic arena, as opposed to a cartoon world, or a remake of a B movie, has a right to exist. Next to Normal has far more in common with ORDINARY PEOPLE than a standard-issue movie of the week. But I hear the naysayers say "yeah, but ORDINARY PEOPLE is a Lifetime movie." We have a cultural bias against material that dramatizes how we live now in various states of quiet desperation. I'm personally tired of caricature, 4th wall crumbling wink-winking at me, and silliness. NORMAL dares to sing about things we don't like to sing about. Sometimes that reduces the lyrical expression to banalities -- but even that is one of the points of the show. And its central conceit, potentially a cliche, is expertly worked out and movingly employed.

People around me Sunday were in tears -- and to my thinking those tears are entirely earned.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

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#19re: My Thoughts on Next to Normal 5/10
Posted: 5/13/09 at 3:06pm

Always interesting to read the opinions and thoughts of youngsters. I won't go into the show itself, and I obviously have a personal connection to Alice, but despite the connection I thought she gave an amazing performance and she will be winning the Tony (I'm never wrong about this - I told Marissa Jaret Winokur she would win two days before the Tonys - she did not and would not believe me - until she won) - frankly it's the only role this season with any complexity, and she plays it perfectly.

I have not seen Mr. Spencer, but I cannot imagine for a second that he gives a better performance than Michael Berry, who was terrific. How anyone could have found his performance wanting is beyond me. Alice told me that he's even better when he's on as the doctor. I thought the entire cast was excellent - interestingly, I grew very irritated with the Aaron Tveit character - not his fault at all, but I think the reason he's not getting the notice he should. It's the one fault of the piece - you really want him to shut up and leave poor Alice alone after about ten minutes.