Hamilton In Chicago/London Story - Request For Comment

[MikeT73]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:11am

Hi,

I just finished the "Hamilton in Chicago and London" story, and I am looking for comments/feedback from the ever-helpful BWW chat forum members:
http://www.nytix.com/news/12476/hamilton-ticket-news-update-more-tickets-going-on-sale

Thanks in advance.

Christina

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:23am

A few things:

 

"Permanent" and "sit-down" are not interchangeable

"A ticket buying feeding frenzy" should be "A ticket-buying feeding frenzy"

HamiltonTheMusicalLondon is not the name of the UK site

Most of your hyphens should be em dashes

"but this also comes with some poor sight lines and increased nose bleed sections" -- nosebleed is one word

"Phillipa Soo, who plays Hamilton’s wife." -- she has a name, a lot to do, a solo, and a Tony nomination

"On June 16, 2016, it was finally reported that his stand-by for Hamilton and long-time friend/writing partner Javier Muñoz would replace Miranda starting July 11th, 2016." -- please decide if you want to use ordinal or cardinal numbers for dates

"A large majority of non-Broadway theatregoers, are primarily interested to see the show because of Miranda’s performance." -- delete the comma (and how do you know this?)

"Secondary Market Hamilton Tickets Suffer From Price Crash After" -- hyphenate "Secondary Market"

 

OK, I need to get back to actual work. Have fun.

Updated On: 6/17/16 at 11:23 AM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:24am

Don't you have someone whose JOB it is to edit your stuff for you? It's not OUR job.

[asmith0307]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:29am

Well, first off, tickets for Hamilton in Chicago go on sale on the 21st, not the 20th. Secondly, I wouldn't say Hamilton is "booting off" the Book of Mormon. If Book of Mormon was still having a sit-down at the PrivateBank, sure. However, Book of Mormon left town in October of 2014 and now just stops in on tour (and happens to be the show in the PrivateBank right before Hamilton starts). Finally, prices are expected to be lower in Chicago. In fact, the balcony is selling for $62 while the premium is selling for $497. 

 

Hopefully that helps!

Updated On: 6/17/16 at 11:29 AM

[Wick3]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:33am

" pungent aroma of street-dirt, sweat, and pee of the unwashed begin to stink up the theatre. "

Really?!? Have you actually gone and smelled the folks waiting at cancellation line an hour before the performance starts? I showered and changed clothes before I finally got in the theater after waiting in the cancellation line (temps when I waited were high of 73 degrees and low of 55 degrees). 

I actually think a premium ticket holder who walked/shopped all over NYC that day and did not take a shower beforehand can have a worse BO than someone in the cancellation line who has been sitting all day underneath the shade of the awning of RRT.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:38am

NYTix.com, do you realize that the BWW discussion board comprises at least part of your readership? We aren't your editorial staff, and you seriously need to consider investing in one, rather than continuing to solicit assistance on here.

[Anakela]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 11:59am

I'll play.

The Secondary market ticket prices for Hamilton performances after July 9, 2016 (the date after Miranda leaves Hamilton) have dropped dramatically (as seen on the image to the right). Ticket brokers are reverse betting on Miranda and how much the secondary ticket market demand will drop after his departure. Miranda’s last night in the show is being sold by re-sellers at the record-high ticket price of nearly $2,200 for the worst seat in the theatre.

Have secondary market prices "dropped dramatically" for performances after July 9th, or did they suffer an increase before July 9th? The prices in the pic from July 11th through 16th look like the usual March/April/May scalper prices to me.

Which seat (row and seat number) is the "worst seat in the theatre," and how was that decided?

Putting names on tickets would completely eliminate the secondary ticket market, protect the show’s value to fans, and maintain the show’s gross income integrity.

How, exactly? I use theatre tickets with someone else's name on them (for example, someone's subscriber tickets, when the subscriber can't go) all the time. There is no carding, no showing of id when using tickets that have names on them, at any theatre I've gone to. How is having names on tickets going to eliminate reselling tickets (which, again: reselling tickets is not illegal in the state of NY. Now, if you want to talk about passing laws to make scalping illegal that's a whole different conversation.)

Your site is like a regurgitation of BWW posts, but not in a good way.

[MikeT73]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:02pm

"NYTix.com, do you realize that the BWW discussion board comprises at least part of your readership? We aren't your editorial staff, and you seriously need to consider investing in one, rather than continuing to solicit assistance on here."

In a generation that uses emoji's its hard to find many people who still care about punctuation and grammar. My request was not for copy-edit, but for general feedback, like "you got the date wrong" etc - (BTW Ticketmaster changed the date after the section was researched), but thanks to asmith0307 on that as we missed that.

Christina

[Huss417]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:02pm

Just wait till LizzieCurry submits an invoice. :)

Updated On: 6/17/16 at 12:02 PM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:08pm

nytix.com said: "In a generation that uses emoji's its hard to find many people who still care about punctuation and grammar."

I'M RIGHT HERE YOU [REDACTED]. Let me also submit to you a few names of fellow copy editors who've been laid off this year.

ALSO you said "I am looking for comments/feedback," which was open to interpretation.

ALSO it is "emojis."

Updated On: 6/17/16 at 12:08 PM

[sparepart973]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:11pm

Selling out 199 shows in advance meaning that it's sold out until when? 

[MikeT73]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:14pm

Selling out 199 shows in advance meaning that it's sold out until when? 

Removed the word "out" for clarity, now reads "Selling 199 shows in advance"

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:16pm

OH HEY I'm back.

"The Richard Rodgers Theatre are not allowing people to swap with others on the line" -- the RRT is not a sentient being, although some treat it as such. Should be "The staff at..." and "is," not "are," since you are talking about a singular entity (made up of multiple individuals).

" It seems ironic that even some people in the audience can smell like they would have in 1776" -- Is that really irony? Also, italicize 1776.

"With Anthony Huger now safely behind bars (Huger was indicted for selling a stack of fake Hamilton tickets on craigslist and then on the street)" -- Should be Craigslist; italicize Hamilton, also [citation needed]

"This enviable inside track appears to have been achieved though Hamilton’s symbiotic relationship with Playbill’s managing editor, Robert Viagas." -- Also if you look up Blake Ross on LinkedIn, you might get another clue.

"leaving the rest of the market to play catch up" -- catch-up

Even if you've muted me, I hope these prove useful to anyone else. THE MORE YOU KNOW.

[sparepart973]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:16pm

nytix.com said: "Selling out 199 shows in advance meaning that it's sold out until when? 

Removed the word "out" for clarity, now reads "Selling 199 shows in advance"

 

"

Absolutely right. I just went to ticketmaster. Either remove OUT or use releasing 199 shows, or the current booking period includes 199 shows. 

[MikeT73]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:20pm

LizzieCurry Posted:
Even if you've muted me, I hope these prove useful to anyone else. THE MORE YOU KNOW.

Why would I mute you? I love you!

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:42pm

Is "soliciting free labor" against the BWW rules? If not, it should be. It's worse than most of the stuff people get posts deleted for.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/17/16 at 12:45pm

HA!

Maybe I should give typo-filled corrections...

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 6/18/16 at 3:05am

ALSO it is "emojis"

YESSSSSS!  Quantity not possession.  

Updated On: 6/18/16 at 03:05 AM

[MyFavoriteBrunette]

Posted: 6/18/16 at 3:19am

The Secondary market ticket prices for Hamilton performances after July 9, 2016 (the date after Miranda leaves Hamilton) have dropped dramatically (as seen on the image to the right). Ticket brokers are reverse betting on Miranda and how much the secondary ticket market demand will drop after his departure. Miranda’s last night in the show is being sold by re-sellers at the record-high ticket price of nearly $2,200 for the worst seat in the theatre.

Worst seat?  Furthest seat, yes.  Not worst.  I sat in the furthest section of the theater twice to see Hamilton. Rear Mezz Row A seats 21/23 and again Rear Mezz Row F seats 25/27. These seats although distant to appreciate facial expressions, had great sight lines and no obstructions caused by other patrons heads.  I enjoyed these seats more than some orchestra center seats I've sat in and more than other rear mezzanine seats I've had.  So to say they are "the worst" for an article sounds more like sensationalizing how terrible they are for the price when they weren't to me and I'm sure to others as well.   Hope this was revised.

 

 

 

Updated On: 6/18/16 at 03:19 AM

[John Adams]

Posted: 6/18/16 at 3:28am

nytix.com said: "Hi,

I just finished the "Hamilton in Chicago and London" story, and I am looking for comments/feedback from the ever-helpful BWW chat forum members:
http://www.nytix.com/news/12476/hamilton-ticket-news-update-more-tickets-going-on-sale
Thanks in advance.
Christina"

 

Comments/Feedback regarding what?????

 

[MinervaMoon]

Posted: 6/18/16 at 4:32am

I'm belated on this, but a few of Lizzie's comments that I think are important haven't been taken into account, such as:

– Calling Phillipa's charater "Hamilton's wife" is just wrong; not only does her character have a name, the Tony committee categorized it as a leading role. She is the focus of the show by the end, after all. Why not:

> Besides Miranda, other stars in the show are going to leave[^,] including Tony nominee Phillipa Soo, who plays [^Eliza], Hamilton’s wife.

– HamiltonTheMusicalLondon is not the name of the site. It's already linked; just call it "the official UK site" or something.

– A large majority of non-Broadway theatregoers doesn't need a comma after it.

– I agreed with Lizzie's statement on em-dashes vs. hyphens, so I hope they were changed, since they look okay now. If not, and Lizzie was commenting on their current state, they look like hyphens but that's just the font.

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Some of my own (apologies if any have been mentioned; I didn't read every post thoroughly):

– "out of the PrivateBank Theatre" -> "at the PrivateBank Theatre"

– Unless you think fans care if he's backstage doing lights or something, "It is unclear if Lin-Manuel Miranda will be involved with the Chicago show in any way" -> "[ . . . ] will perform in the Chicago show at any time". Gets rid of awkward phrasing because the sentence as it stands goes on and ends in "anyway", so you have "any way" followed by "anyway".

– "sightlines" is also one word

– "although the face-value tickets are expected to be the same price as they are in New York" – this isn't true. Matched band-for-band, Chicago is less expensive.

– "Tuesday June 21" -> "Tuesday morning"; you already said the date twice, and it would need a comma anyway

– "ramping-up" -> "ramping up"

– "shipping Hamilton to London[^,] and the show is set"

– "will be managed by Cameron Mackintosh[^,] and will take up residency at [-> residence in] London’s Victoria Palace Theatre, which was vacated by Billy Elliot (which ran from 2005 to 2016)[^.]"

– "going to leave[^,] including"

– "starting cast of the show have all" -> "the original cast of the show has"

– "of what the Hamilton phenomenon has given them" -> "of the Hamilton phenomenon"

– "This, in turn, has made them household names nit [-> not] just in the Broadway industry, but far beyond." (besides which, this cannot be true; not even Lin is a household name)

– "any new up-and-coming Broadway stars" -> "any up-and-coming Broadway stars" (redundancy)

– "Secondary market ticket prices" -> "secondary market ticket prices"

– "the date after Miranda leaves" -> "the date after which Miranda leaves"

– "re-sellers" -> "resellers"

– "theatre. Meaning that" -> "theatre, meaning that"

– "next show" -> "subsequent show"

– "eat their losses, but given the huge profits that they have garnered so far, it may be the cost of doing business." -> "eat their losses. But given the huge profits that they have garnered so far, they may see it as the cost of doing business."

– "Now the warmer weather is here and Miranda is officially leaving on July 9, 2016 – the wait" -> "Now that the warmer weather is here and Miranda is officially leaving on July 9, 2016[^,]the wait"

– "management at the Richard Rodgers Theatre are now" -> "management at the Richard Rodgers Theatre is now" (Christina, you weren't born or educated in the UK, were you? No insult; it's just that your noun/verb agreement is in line with British style guides.)

– "on the cancellation ticket line" -> "in the cancellation ticket line"

– "line,  but the new policies" (there are two spaces after the comma)

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And this article is longer than I thought it would be, it's late, and I'm not getting paid for this. I'm tapping out.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/19/16 at 1:03am

MINERVA! Bless you. And for going through more of this than I did. :)

[asmith0307]

Posted: 6/19/16 at 2:34am

Not sure if "unseating" is the right word either for Book of Mormon. They are just coming in when Mormon leaves. The theatre is going to be dark about a month. Like I said, if Mormon was still a sit-down, sure that may be appropriate. However, they are a tour that merely has the slot at that particular theatre before Hamilton takes over. Connotation can be a huge (and sensitive) thing.

Though, as a side note, at least in March, they still had a giant photo of Rannells in the lobby. I wonder if they are going to keep it...

Updated On: 6/19/16 at 02:34 AM