Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
#1Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:45pmOn gay high holy day. Seriously! There's a time and a place to display their alternative lifestyle.
"Broadway...I'll lick you yet!"
#2Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:50pmHahahahahaha
I'm a professional. Whenever something goes wrong on stage, I know how to handle it so no one ever remembers. I flash my %#$&.
"Jayne just sat there while Gina flailed around the stage like an idiot."
#2Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:52pmNow THAT'S funny!
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
#3Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:52pm
Um...I won't comment specifically on who I THINK you are referring to. But, one of the people I am sitting with here has personal knowledge he is NOT straight...But, although I think we're talking about the same person, perhaps not... 
And yes, he's married. It's the very trendy thing to do these days - gay chic marriage for kids...and friendship...hot gay sex on the side...constantly...
Chillin' and teachin' acting and voice to muh Bway/Film peeps...
(Betty Buckley is teaching a workshop for me at my school, check it out.)
#4Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:20pm
There are gay men married to women? OMG, we need to alert the media!
"Broadway...I'll lick you yet!"
#5Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:21pm
Well, but they're openly gay, fine with it...and also get married to have a friend who is a woman, live with them and have kids...they're not in the closet...THAT was my point.
Chillin' and teachin' acting and voice to muh Bway/Film peeps...
(Betty Buckley is teaching a workshop for me at my school, check it out.)
Updated On: 6/13/10 at 08:21 PM
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#6Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:29pm
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
A Director
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
#7Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:39pmWhy were the Tony Awards allowed on happen on this day?
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#8Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:09am
> Well, but they're openly gay, fine with it...they're not in the closet...
and yet you appear to have gone out of your way to avoid identifying them. somthing's askew there ...
"You, sir, are a moron." (PlayItAgain)
#9Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:14amI want Raul to win one of these days so that he can thank his wife AND his boyfriend.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#10Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:18am
I have no idea who you guys are hinting about, but I thought it was notable that Douglas Hodge didn't use the word "wife" in his thanks, which would have sent a clear "I'm actually straight!!!" message to middle America. On the one hand, I find that admirable, but on the other, I sort of wish he had, to send the message "Your assumptions about people may not necessarily be true".
Don't forget that George Hearn's first words upon clutching his Tony for Albin were "What some guys won't do...".
Updated On: 6/14/10 at 10:18 AM
#11Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:27amHe didn't say "wife" because they're not legally married.
"You travel alone because other people are only there to remind you how much that hook hurts that we all bit down on. Wait for that one day we can bite free and get back out there in space where we belong, sail back over water, over skies, into space, the hook finally out of our mouths and we wander back out there in space spawning to other planets never to return hurrah to earth and we'll look back and can't even see these lives here anymore. Only the taste of blood to remind us we ever existed. The earth is small. We're gone. We're dead. We're safe."
-John Guare, Landscape of the Body
#12Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:32am
That's a good reason. 
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#13Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:32amAh, thanks, I didn't know that. Well, "my partner Tessa and our two beautiful children..." would have done the trick.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#14Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:39amWhat trick? Maybe he didn't care about reassuring America that playing a gay role doesn't have to make one gay.
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#15Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:47am
Yes yes, as I've already said, I see the benefit in that, and I agree that's probably the most progressive way to approach it. But I also see some benefit in turning people's "expectations" on their heads.
My main point (and my final one) is that we've come a long way from casting George Hearn, who has the most masculine singing voice imaginable and who went out of his way to make the point that he was straight in his acceptance speech, to the casting of Hodge, who made (to me at least) a fairly convincing woman as Zaza, and who made no effort at all to emphasize his heterosexuality.
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#16Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:53amHodge also referred to her as his "partner" during the NY1 red carpet broadcast.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#17Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:56am
Yes yes, as I've already said, I see the benefit in that, and I agree that's probably the most progressive way to approach it. But I also see some benefit in turning people's "expectations" on their heads.
Whose expectations would he have turned on their head? Probably not people watching the Tonys.
#18Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 11:30am
Who cares if he's gay or straight? How does that change anything? He's still the same person. If people think he's gay because he's playing a gay character, does that mean that Idina Menzel is really green and can fly?
If someone is gay or straight, that tells you absolutely nothing about that person - are they a kind person, do they have morals, are they responsible, etc....
#19Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:26pmAmen, Neal.
Chillin' and teachin' acting and voice to muh Bway/Film peeps...
(Betty Buckley is teaching a workshop for me at my school, check it out.)
#20Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:31pm
This thread was better when it was funny.
If someone is gay or straight, that tells you absolutely nothing about that person
Not "absolutely nothing." It tells you if they're gay or straight. I mean, I have brown hair, which tells you nothing about MY personality, ethics, etc... but it does tell you I have brown hair. And that barrettes made for blondes don't really go.
Yes, I am pedantic. I'm also right.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#21Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:39pm
"to the casting of Hodge, who made (to me at least) a fairly convincing woman as Zaza,"
Uhm....
Okay...
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#22Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:18pmI still enjoy Scarlett thanking "the Canadian I live with". Mmmm, Ryan.
#23Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:23pmWhen I win, I'm thanking FindingNamo.
...Entitlement.
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#24Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 4:35pm
I work for the US subsidiary of a UK-based company. In dealing with my UK colleagues, i've noticed they tend to refer to "partners" regardless of marital status or orientation. i've even read it in corporate memos.
this all could just be a cultural difference. marriage rates are lower in the UK ... cohabitation is common even among couples with children ... civil unions are legal ... my impression is that it's easier just to employ the generic term "partner".
"You, sir, are a moron." (PlayItAgain)
