Good luck, Patty Heaton!
Good luck, Patty Heaton!
#1Good luck, Patty Heaton!
Posted: 12/14/06 at 12:53am
Good luck facing up to New York critics and audiences. 
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 12/14/06 at 12:53 AM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#1re: Good luck, Patty Heaton!
Posted: 12/14/06 at 5:19amIs this the same Patricia Heaton who made a TV commercial AGAINST stem cell research to counter the Michael J. Fox commercial? Is this the one you're talking about?
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#2re: Good luck, Patty Heaton!
Posted: 12/14/06 at 5:32am
and her political beliefs affect her acting ability how???
It's okay for Michael Fox to have strong political, moral beliefs but no one else?
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#4Why politics matter - LONG
Posted: 12/14/06 at 10:35am
Here's the deal about politically activist entertainers.
If an audience member is apolitical, a performer’s political views and activities are irrelevant and have no impact on their opinion about the actor.
If an audience member is politically passionate, activist actors political activities will either improve the opinion of a like-minded viewer, or negatively shade the opinion of someone who doesn't share their politics.
So, Patricia Heaton, front and center during the Terry Schiavo debacle, fighting stem cell research and being militantly right to life has to accept that she's not going to be a favorite of those who don't share her views.
As someone who thought that she was terrific in Everybody Loves Raymond, I will admit that her increasing activist stance on the issues above have negatively impacted my enjoyment of her performances.
And it's only fair for someone who uses their fame as a platform for hot button political issues to suffer the consequences of their activities.
The sorts of issues that Heaten is involved with are hardly who likes spinach vs broccoli. She's a leading voice on issues that many feel are at the forefront of taking away individuals rights.
And for that, she's not on my list of favorite performers.
#5She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 10:44ami don't like her. i don't enjoy watching her so i turn the channel.
Mind is Mantra.
#6She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 10:46am
At first glance, I thought this said Good Luck Patty Hearst!
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#7She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 10:46amNo matter how you slice it politically she is a mediocre actress.
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#8She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 11:07amooops
Mind is Mantra.
Updated On: 12/14/06 at 11:07 AM
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#9She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 11:17amShe should be ashamed of herself for greed alone. She was making over $500,000 an episode for "...Raymond", and yet she goes and does those painfully bad Albertson's/Jewel commercials. I watch those commercials and all I get from them is "Look at me - I'm just in it for the cash!"
#10She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 11:50am
I wish I could win awards for 7 years of yelling and whining on a garbage sitcom and getting paid millions for it.
I hope the critics eat her alive.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
#11She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 11:58amBreak a leg, beyotch.
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popculture37
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#12She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 12:42pm
Every human being, regardless of their career, has a right to express their beliefs. Even if many of their fans will disagree with them (and in this case, I certainly disagree with Ms. Heaton) it is completely unfair to ask celebrities to keep their mouths shut just so the general public will like them. I find it very courageous of her to risk her popularity in order to stand up for something she is passionate about. Also, being against embryonic stem cell research does not make her a villain; its a complicated issue with evidence on both sides. I think that the strongest evidence goes against her position, but it is hardly a clear-cut case. The sad thing is that if she was speaking out for a more liberal cause, many of her current detractors would be showering her with applause. Much as we may disagree with them, conservatives are people too, right?
And as far as Everybody Loves Raymond goes, sure it was no work of art, but I thought it was an enjoyable enough show, and she improved a ton over the course of the show. She was extremely bland in the first season or two, but she got much better and developed some killer facial expressions.
#13She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 12:45pmeverybody loves raymond was the worst sitcom in years and its sad to think that this country embraced it so long. Patty Heaton disgusts me and hope she does horribly.. break a leg or two patty!
#14She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:01pm
i think cbs has some sort of arrangement w/ american airlines to show it's programs as in-flight entertainment. i was once on a long domestic flight where they played 2 hours of EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND. (no -- karen black was not piloting the plane)
i tuned in because i had never seen it before and i enjoy doris roberts. i got the feeling in the first 10 minutes that everyone on that show hates one another -- i mean -- the actors. the show is a toxic waste spill.
Mind is Mantra.
#15She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:03pmgeez so nasty. I was wondering if she was going to be at the show tonight because of the death of Peter Boyle. I am sure she will miss atleast one performance for his funeral.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 12/28/04
#16She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:20pmI can't imagine wishing someone ill because I didn't like them or their outspoken views on any issues. I worked on a project with Patricia Heaton a number of years ago and I certianly didn't find her to be my cup of tea. I wouldn't work with her again, but I'd never wish her (or any actor) a bad performance.
#17She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:26pm
She was extremely bland in the first season or two, but she got much better and developed some killer facial expressions.
And this, my friend, is the reason I no longer watch television. In the theater, we critique acting with a fine, fine tooth comb. In television, we shower "actors" with acclaim for the achievement of, over 7 years, developing "some killer facial expressions." Do you realize how sad and pathetic that is?
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Updated On: 12/14/06 at 01:26 PM
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Ciaron McCarthy
Broadway Star Joined: 10/15/06
#18She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:30pm
Heaton is a fine actress. She played the "stright man" very well on that show (Raymond) and even won a couple of Emmys for it. Who cares what she thinks about stem cell research. She is allowed to be against it. This is still America. When I go to the theater I don't look at the actors and think "Hmmmm I wonder what she thinks about gun control".
God liberals can be so annoying.....and I'm one of them.
#19She makes my skin crawl
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:31pmI thought the post above from GoSmileLaughCryClap got it exactly right on all counts. A great post. Thank you.
Faced with these Loreleis, what man can moralize!
#20Thanks popculture37
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:34pm
popculture37 - thanks for bringing some reasonable, articulate points to the discussion. Something that is usually missing on these boards.
I always liked "Everybody Loves Raymond" - and thought Patricia Heaton was great in it... in fact the whole cast was perfect. But perhaps some of it is growing up in an Italian family, I could relate to most episodes.
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#21Thanks popculture37
Posted: 12/14/06 at 1:42pm
Raymond was one of the worse sitcoms ever made and what's worse was that it's lameness spurred CBS to make so many shows with the exact same premise so that lame suburbanites could feel cool or something. Ugly man, hot wife...maybe ugly/fat man with hot wife. Raymond was just better than most because Heaton wasn't that attractive so it was believable that someone like her would end up with someone less than ideal. Plus, she looks to be the greedy type so her sportswriter husband makes all the money while she's at home complaining about every God-damned thing. I consider myself to be a feminist who is all for women be given choices, however Heaton seemed to give housewives a bad name with all the entitlement issues and constant bitchiness. I've seen a lot of episodes because my family enjoyed it for a while till they realized how many episodes dealt with the same crap.
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And moldy heads and pissing on sugar cubes
While you stare at your books."
Updated On: 12/14/06 at 01:42 PM
popculture37
Understudy Joined: 8/14/06
#22Thanks popculture37
Posted: 12/14/06 at 2:02pm
Well, Foster, you're right that my wording does sound a bit pathetic...but in a sitcom, or any type of comedy for that matter, physical humor, including facial expression, is supremely important. I'm sure we've all seen actors who could make a joke funny just by an eyebrow lift or a blank stare, and I think that Patricia's strongpoint was her ability to use her face to make her comedic lines even funnier. That certainly isn't her only accomplishment-I think she developed all around as an actress throughout the show-and she's certainly no Meryl Streep. But, I think that her physical expressiveness made ELR a lot funnier than it could have been, and I don't see how that is pathetic.
By the way, there are lots of great actors on television nowadays and in the recent past. Check out some episodes of Arrested Development or The Office and maybe you'll regain your faith in this medium.
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#24Thanks popculture37
Posted: 12/14/06 at 2:26pmPeter Boyle was a major liberal Democrat political activist. I can't imagine him being particularly close with Ms. Heaton.
