Gypsy Tonight

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#0Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/19/03 at 11:28pm

Just got in from Gypsy...everytime I see it I still think what a ripoff it was that Marissa won that Tony. The theatre was half empty so they were bumping people's seats from balcony to front Mezz which was nice. Bernadette seemed to be loosing her voice and really straining. Anyone else notice this?

BwayTheatre11
#1re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/19/03 at 11:42pm

Gypsy is such a great show. Doesn't sound like it is going to last long. Bernadette is what is keeping it alive.


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skingdom
#2re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 12:36am

Why do people say it isn't going to last long? And by not lasting long what does that mean? Its a fabulous production.

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emmamia
#3re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 2:04am

yes its fabulous but its not selling.


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magruder
#4re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 3:44am

Actually, Gypsy has been pretty reliably on Variety's top 10 grossers each week. It's not selling out, but it seems to be doing OK enough.


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Cadriel
#5re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 7:02am

When I saw Gypsy it was with great understudies for Louise and June, which only made me enjoy it the more. It's a brilliant musical and its leading lady manages to be compelling in a trying role, and I'm surprised no one's been singling out John Dosset for his great performance as Herbie...but I couldn't shake the feeling of something being off. It's like all the set and scenery was designed with the singular thought, "You want a set? Fine, have a set." And I'm amazed that an acclaimed musical like Gypsy has so big a hole in its dramatic interest as "Little Lamb," which fails utterly at giving Louise anything like a crucial bit of characterization.

I can't bear listening to Hairspray's songs (bubblegum pop, which Hairspray's score is unapologetically, is pretty much unlistenable for me), so I can neither evaluate that show from the cast album or actually seeing it live. But Peters seemed to be turning in a worthy performance in acting. Not as sure about her vocals.

-Wayne

BwayTheatre11
#6re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 8:58am

Notice how I said "Gypsy is such a great show!"


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TEACHEROFTHEATER
#7re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:21am

emmamia, where do you get your information that GYPSY is not selling?

It is selling quite well according to the box office reports published by playbill and variety and listed here at broadwayworld.com.

Additonally,

there was an article on the "crawl" here yesterday or the day before saying that

John Dosset renewed his contract with GYPSY through SEPTEMBER rather than join the cast of Assassins.

Again, where did you get your information that GYPSY is not selling?


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newyorkuniq
#8re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:33am

It is a really great show, but it does drag at moments.

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#9re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:34am

again, I am curious as to where you get the information that GYPSY is not selling, please let us know:)

Below is playbill's report on box office receipts:

Broadway Grosses: November 10-16
By Andrew Ku
17 Nov 2003




All data provided by The League of American Theatres and Producers

Production
(Theatre) Weekly Gross Total Atten. Prev. Perf. Total Capacity Avg. Ticket Price Atten. %

42nd Street
(Ford Center) $540,910 9,693 0 8 1,813 $55.80 66.8%
Aida
(Palace) $803,666 12,021 0 8 1,695 $66.86 88.7%
Anna...Tropics
(Royale) $178,482 4,304 7 1 1,078 $41.47 49.9%
Avenue Q
(Golden) $335,989 4,823 0 8 796 $69.66 75.7%
Beauty and Beast
(Lunt-Fontanne) $465,636 7,816 0 8 1,509 $59.57 64.7%
Cabaret
(Studio 54) $305,806 5,658 0 8 920 $54.05 76.9%
Cat on…Roof
(Music Box) $505,631 6,933 0 8 1,019 $72.93 85.0%
Chicago
(Ambassador) $555,668 7,707 0 8 1,080 $72.10 89.2%
Golda's Balcony
(Helen Hayes) $272,255 4,276 0 8 589 $63.67 90.7%
Gypsy
(Shubert) $608,818 8,514 0 8 1,447 $71.51 73.5%
Hairspray
(Neil Simon) $958,925 11,207 0 8 1,428 $85.56 98.1%
Henry IV
(Beaumont) $238,299 5,993 6 0 1,047 $39.76 95.4%
I am..Wife
(Lyceum) $93,243 2,762 8 0 704 $33.76 49.0%
Jackie Mason…Only
(Atkinson) $192,869 5,403 8 0 1,027 $35.70 65.8%
Little…Horrors
(Virginia) $393,876 6,019 0 8 1,209 $65.44 62.2%
Mamma Mia!
(Cadillac Winter Garden) $957,669 11,789 0 8 1,495 $81.23 98.6%
Movin' Out
(Richard Rodgers) $577,024 7,518 0 8 1,322 $76.75 71.1%
Never Gonna Dance
(Broadhurst) $382,540 6,808 8 0 1,174 $56.19 72.5%
Nine
(O'Neill) $417,335 5,678 0 8 1,049 $73.50 67.7%
Oldest…Tells All
(Longacre) $78,259 2,533 7 0 1,094 $30.90 33.1%
Rent
(Nederlander) $302,341 6,285 0 8 1,181 $48.11 66.5%
Sexaholix
(Broadway) $217,067 4,766 0 7 1,757 $45.54 38.8%
Six Dance…Weeks
(Belasco) $78,729 2,546 0 8 1,029 $30.92 30.9%
Taboo
(Plymouth) $320,872 3,803 3 4 1,093 $84.37 49.7%
Take Me Out
(Walter Kerr) $215,160 4,175 0 8 920 $51.54 56.7%
The Boy…Oz
(Imperial) $865,233 10,451 0 8 1,435 $82.79 91.0%
The Caretaker
(American Airlines) $226,301 4,775 0 8 740 $47.39 80.7%
The Lion King
(New Amsterdam) $1,072,458 13,846 0 8 1,793 $77.46 96.5%
The Phantom of the Opera
(Majestic) $564,664 10,235 0 8 1,607 $55.17 79.6%
The Producers
(St. James) $790,651 9,498 0 8 1,706 $83.24 69.6%
The Retreat…Moscow
(Booth) $289,136 5,250 0 8 789 $55.07 83.2%
The Violet Hour
(Biltmore) $223,547 4,143 0 8 650 $53.96 79.7%
Thoroughly…Millie
(Marquis) $611,353 9,654 0 8 1,578 $63.33 76.5%
Urinetown
(Henry Miller) $228,619 3,930 0 8 631 $58.17 77.9%
Wicked
(Gershwin) $926,289 13,878 0 8 1,773 $66.75 97.8%
Wonderful Town
(Hirschfeld) $271,712 5,378 8 0 1,437 $50.52 46.8%

Comparison with Previous Week
Production
(Theatre) Weekly Gross Last Week's Gross $ Change Atten. % Last Week's Atten. % Atten. % Change

42nd Street
(Ford Center) $540,910 $626,966 -$86,056 66.8% 74.8% -8.0%
Aida
(Palace) $803,666 $745,312 $58,354 88.7% 85.3% 3.4%
Anna...Tropics
(Royale) $178,482 $204,669 -$26,187 49.9% 56.3% -6.4%
Avenue Q
(Golden) $335,989 $369,712 -$33,723 75.7% 81.4% -5.7%
Beauty and Beast
(Lunt-Fontanne) $465,636 $556,653 -$91,017 64.7% 78.4% -13.6%
Cabaret
(Studio 54) $305,806 $314,605 -$8,800 76.9% 76.6% 0.2%
Cat on…Roof
(Music Box) $505,631 $497,189 $8,442 85.0% 85.0% 0.0%
Chicago
(Ambassador) $555,668 $599,716 -$44,048 89.2% 96.1% -6.9%
Golda's Balcony
(Helen Hayes) $272,255 $275,831 -$3,576 90.7% 92.3% -1.5%
Gypsy
(Shubert) $608,818 $627,438 -$18,621 73.5% 75.7% -2.1%
Hairspray
(Neil Simon) $958,925 $958,580 $345 98.1% 97.2% 0.9%
Henry IV
(Beaumont) $238,299 $237,189 $1,110 95.4% 92.7% 2.7%
I am..Wife
(Lyceum) $93,243 n/a n/a 49.0% n/a n/a
Jackie Mason…Only
(Atkinson) $192,869 $205,858 -$12,989 65.8% 52.5% 13.3%
Little…Horrors
(Virginia) $393,876 $481,489 -$87,613 62.2% 75.0% -12.8%
Mamma Mia!
(Cadillac Winter Garden) $957,669 $946,801 $10,867 98.6% 98.9% -0.3%
Movin' Out
(Richard Rodgers) $577,024 $619,655 -$42,631 71.1% 79.2% -8.2%
Never Gonna Dance
(Broadhurst) $382,540 $336,626 $45,915 72.5% 64.4% 8.0%
Nine
(O'Neill) $417,335 $517,874 -$100,539 67.7% 87.2% -19.5%
Oldest…Tells All
(Longacre) $78,259 $97,731 -$19,471 33.1% 32.3% 0.7%
Rent
(Nederlander) $302,341 $357,130 -$54,789 66.5% 79.7% -13.2%
Sexaholix
(Broadway) $217,067 n/a n/a 38.8% n/a n/a
Six Dance…Weeks
(Belasco) $78,729 $96,772 -$18,043 30.9% 37.0% -6.0%
Taboo
(Plymouth) $320,872 $315,673 $5,200 49.7% 51.3% -1.6%
Take Me Out
(Walter Kerr) $215,160 $239,168 -$24,008 56.7% 61.8% -5.1%
The Boy…Oz
(Imperial) $865,233 $869,515 -$4,282 91.0% 90.7% 0.4%
The Caretaker
(American Airlines) $226,301 $173,118 $53,183 80.7% 91.2% -10.5%
The Lion King
(New Amsterdam) $1,072,458 $1,103,351 -$30,893 96.5% 99.1% -2.5%
The Phantom of the Opera
(Majestic) $564,664 $537,210 $27,455 79.6% 72.0% 7.6%
The Producers
(St. James) $790,651 $857,354 -$66,703 69.6% 75.5% -5.9%
The Retreat…Moscow
(Booth) $289,136 $303,658 -$14,522 83.2% 87.4% -4.2%
The Violet Hour
(Biltmore) $223,547 $195,276 $28,271 79.7% 71.4% 8.3%
Thoroughly…Millie
(Marquis) $611,353 $619,069 -$7,716 76.5% 74.3% 2.2%
Urinetown
(Henry Miller) $228,619 $237,806 -$9,187 77.9% 76.7% 1.1%
Wicked
(Gershwin) $926,289 $892,085 $34,204 97.8% 95.2% 2.6%
Wonderful Town
(Hirschfeld) $271,712 $58,118 $213,594 46.8% 46.5% 0.3%






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#10re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:39am

check the bway grosses there teacher even though its had steady weeks of 70%-80%

last week was 73%
two weeks before was 64%
it has dipped as low as 45% (even w/ Bernadette)

and remember during bernadettes vacation they discounted seats to get the theatres full. Just because someone renews a contract for another year doesnt mean the show will stay open. what happens if Bernadette leaves after her one year ... will they get the star replacement to continue to bring in the people?

Here comes the horrible winter months and we will see what happens!!


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newyorkuniq
#11re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:40am

geesh chill out

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#12re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 10:49am

Emma, you are mistaken. I went and took a look at the past grosses. The week it was at 45% was September 29-October 5, which WAS during the week of Bernadette Peters vacation. It has never dipped that low with Bernadette. As for the week where it was at 64%, (October 27-November 2) which was the Halloween/Daylight Savings week, most shows took a significant hit that week. 42nd Street was down $114,000, Movin' Out was down $123,000, The Producers was down $125,000 and Thoroughly Modern Millie was down $151,000. (People just don't seem to want to go to the theatre when the clocks change, for some reason - the same thing happens every year).


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Updated On: 11/20/03 at 10:49 AM

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#13re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 11:21am

Don't worry, people, as long as most people go to theater to see that which they've already seen, know and trust and that which is completely without modern sensibilities or interests, a revival of 'Gypsy' will always have a home on Broadway.

And if you can't see it on Broadway it's equally vibrant in dinner theaters and community theater all across the Great White Plains.

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magruder
#14re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 11:32am

Still, JohnPopa, Gypsy may be the least comforting of any of the Golden Era titles. It basically tells you that your parents spend their lives destroying you, then they get old and you get to take care of them. The show depicted a dysfunctional single parent family, long before they were in fashion. Plus, it glorifies a no-talent who takes her lack of talent to the top of her field ... something that certainly happens in spades these days. Pretending that Gypsy has nothing to say to modern audiences is being just too casually dismissive of a great, multi-faceted work that I feel is welcome any time someone wants to bring it to Broadway.


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#15re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 11:37am

emmamia, I hope that if Bernadette leaves after one year they consider someone with at least perceived box office influence, perhaps:

Kathy Bates
Cyndi Lauper
Shirley MacLaine

I would love to see Patti Lupone or Michelle Lee or obviously Liza if she were well. I am not sure who would deliver the ticket sales however.


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moljul
#16re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 11:43am

Shirley MacLaine?????

I love Shirley but she is 69 years old and hasn't sung in years. Bringing Ethel back from the dead might work better. re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight

Kathy Bates wouldn't work with this production and I"m not sure Cyndi Lauper has the acting chops.

I'd still vote for Megan Mallaley (sorry I know I destroyed her last name)

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#17re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 11:51am

Moljul, do you think Megan would sell tickets?


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#18re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 1:47pm

Yes, I really do. I think Will and Grace is big enough and her character well known and TV stars have seemed to do well (box office wise, I won't comment on their abilities re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight) on Broadway. Plus she has real musical theater experience to bring to the role that would bring some of the more serious theater goers in to see her in the role - not just "let's go see Karen from Will and Grace". Plus she would fall into the younger, sexier Rose of this production.

Unfortunately with her TV schedule, it would be difficult to get her to commit but I'm hoping for at least a short stint after Bernadette leaves. One can dream!

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TheaterBaby
#19re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 2:13pm

I agree with moljul. I think Megan is an excellent choice. But people would have to remember that when they go they wouldn't be seeing Karen Walker. When one person is identified by the character they play on television it can be very difficult for the boob-tube addicts to get past that.
I think Cyndi would be adorable in the role, but I don't think she can act the part. Though she and Bernadette have something in common: both born and raised in Ozone Park Queens, and only 5 or 6 years apart. re: Gypsy Tonight I wonder if they ever crossed paths as children? Plus they both look great for their age.


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Updated On: 11/20/03 at 02:13 PM

PJ
#20re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 3:18pm

As much as it pains me to say this, I have to. Liza couldn't do Gypsy 8 times a week. I think her voice couldn't handle it. Her voice is barely hanging in there as it is. It's a shame she'll never get the chance to play Rose. I think she could have done the show back during the '89 revival, which would have been perfect timing for her, but she's not able to pull it off vocally these days.

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BrdwyThtr
#21re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/20/03 at 5:25pm

I don't see Gypsy closing anytime soon. I just hope they don't start bringing in big name-no talent stars after Bernie leaves.

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#22re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/23/03 at 4:11am

There's no shortage of Stars and semi-stars they could bring in after Bernadette leaves. I am least of all Lupone fans, but let's face it, she'd be brilliant as Rose. I wonder about Lanie Kazan. Yes, Megan Mulally could do it. Cyndi Lauper is a better actress than some are giving her credit for. I acn see her mama Rose having some real similarities to lansbury, who in many ways was the most surprisingly New Yorkish of Roses. BUT -- what if Cyndi had done Roxy instead of that big sloppy blonde, you know the one one married to Antonio? Lauper would have been senstaional in that role.

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newyorkuniq
#23re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/23/03 at 10:39am

Why are all the Roxie's in there 40's? I thought Roxie was supposed to be young and Velma is the old one.

tkts
#24re: re: re: re: re: re: Gypsy Tonight
Posted: 11/23/03 at 11:49am

I don't think big name stars want to replace any Rose in Gypsy. They would rather wait for the next revival and go for the Tony.


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