L'Oreal fires model after racist remarks

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/2/17 at 7:48am

L'Oreal has fired a POC model, who was also transgender, after she made racist remarks about white people.

I think this is a wonderful step into the right direction. There should be no room in the business for people like this who think only in race.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4367970/loreals-sacks-its-first-transgender-model-after-she-blasted-all-white-people-are-racist-in-shocking-facebook-rant/

[sabrelady]

Posted: 9/2/17 at 12:03pm

YEAH another "it's you and not ME"  pov. 

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/2/17 at 2:49pm

You and me is actually about people. What this lady did was not. It was purely about race/color.

[binau]

Posted: 9/2/17 at 11:42pm

The sad thing is, I think, Is that there is of course truth to the general statement that POC have historically and currently face oppression in white-majority societies. However, this continued extreme, screaming activism founded in non-truth (e.g., calling all white people racist) just hinders their plight and builds walls between people of different races. Are they trying to build allies or further push people away?

 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 3:07am

I agree. And her name is awful. 

But I just think we live in an overly PC world right now and it's awful. You can't say anything without offending someone. It's silly. I work a midtown restaurant right now, and we - the entire staff - get called racist all the time simply by enforcing the rules we have in place. It's never about race, but more so about the the rules we have in place, and yet we get called racist more than not by people of color because it's the easiest card to pull. 

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 4:26am

People need to understand that that behaviour is the biggest factor in maintaining racism.

It widens the gap between races.

Like I said in another thread, which has sadly been removed, it's really sad that many POC say something race related in about any conversation, within the minute. Not only to blame others when things go bad by pulling the race card, but also when buying an ice cream, posting a tweet or going to the grocery store, situations that have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Now you can see it can make you lose your job (like this model), but that is not the worst thing that happens by doing it.

Updated On: 9/3/17 at 04:26 AM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 9:41am

Dave28282 said: "People need to understand that that behaviour is the biggest factor in maintaining racism."

Are you saying - can you really be saying? - that racism, at this point, is mainly black peoples' fault? That seems to be what you're implying in your last post, but I can hardly believe you mean that.

[Taryn]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 10:21am

No, it's not POC being angry -- even uncomfortably angry -- about systemic white racism that's the biggest factor in maintaining racism. Wow.

It may not have been civil, but nothing the model said was inaccurate.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 12:56pm

People need to understand that that behaviour is the biggest factor in maintaining racism.
It widens the gap between races.

So POC should just "water off a duck's back" it because it makes white people uncomfortable when the reality of how the world works is brought up to them? You care more about the fragile white people having their world's rocked than the systemic oppression those POC face on a daily basis. It's not until the white nurse gets taken away in handcuffs for following Hospital policy that a lot of white people actually start to give a **** about the narrative "If you're honest you have nothing to fear from police." when that's the reality POC face literally all of the time.

Like I said in another thread, which has sadly been removed, it's really sad that many POC say something race related in about any conversation, within the minute. 

So you essentially believe that we can get over Racism if POC weren't so uppity about it naming it in some, admittedly, not accurate spots. Yeah no. That is the minority of cases, that is the fringe. The reality of the world is that systemic oppression is everywhere and most white people refuse to believe and would rather hush hush it away rather than owning up to it. Acknowledging that fact is not a judgement call on you individually as person, unless YOU yourself are an active racist, but an acknowledgement of the societal problems you prefer to bury your head in the sand about and instead play up strawmen to devalue the complaints of POC.

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 8:59pm

kdogg36 said: " is mainlyblack peoples' fault? "

It's nobody's fault. I just explain what maintains it. Constant separating. It's a choice.

Taryn said: " It may not have been civil, but nothing the model said was inaccurate. "

All white people are racist is quite inaccurate.

Theatrefan4 said: " So you essentially believe that we can get over Racism if POC weren't so uppity about it naming it in some, admittedly, not accurate spots."

Not some. Nearly all. I believe that we can get over racism if people stop focusing on race only. Because it's not helping. It does more harm than good. Especially when you do it in not accurate spots, people will not treat you extra human after that or anything, if that's the idea.

If you make them focus on race in every situation, they just might.....If you show them human over color in any situation, they just might see that......just a suggestion.

Updated On: 9/3/17 at 08:59 PM

[Taryn]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 9:28pm

Taryn said: "It may not have been civil, but nothing the model said wasinaccurate. "

All white people are racist is quite inaccurate.

Not really.

[javero]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 9:51pm

Hey Dave28282, 

What exactly is a POC?

[ArtMan]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 10:12pm

Taryn said: "Taryn said: "It may not have been civil, but nothing the model said wasinaccurate. "

All white people are racist is quite inaccurate.

Not really."

Then the same can be said that all people of color are just as racist, especially within their own sectors,

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/3/17 at 11:53pm

As a white male living in NYC I experience this idiocy on a daily basis. Black man outside the liquor store "Can I get a dollar?" Me: "No" Him: "F*CK you you KKK looking mother****er." Oh okay great, thanks. 

Or the fact that I work with a mainly hispanic group who use the "N word" all day everyday, but if a white person says it suddenly the black staff are pissed off, huh? 

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 12:26am

Dear lord, this place seems to have quite a few racially tone deaf idiots...

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 4:48am

javero said: "HeyDave28282,

What exactly is a POC?"

A person of color

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 4:54am

RippedMan said: "As a white male living in NYC I experience this idiocy on a daily basis. Black man outside the liquor store "Can I get a dollar?" Me: "No" Him: "F*CK you you KKK looking mother****er." Oh okay great, thanks.

Or the fact that I work with a mainly hispanic group who use the "N word" all day everyday, but if a white person says it suddenly the black staff are pissed off, huh?"

I'm sure they think you will see them as evolved, reasonable human beings after that, based on their focus.

Or they just love the separation and do anything within their power to maintain it.

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 4:59am

TheatreFan4 said: "Dear lord, this place seems to have quite a few racially tone deaf idiots..."

You know what's racially tone deaf? Getting fired about racist remarks because you bring it up in every situation that has nothing to do with it, being thrown out of the company because of it, and then afterwards call the company racist. The same company you praised so much when they hired you.

You know what's also racially tone deaf? Mentioning color or race in every conversation within the minute and then wondering why other people focus on it.

Double agenda racist.

Updated On: 9/4/17 at 04:59 AM

[ArtMan]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 8:13am

TheatreFan4 said: "Dear lord, this place seems to have quite a few racially tone deaf idiots..."

Yourself included!

[kdogg36]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 9:28am

Dave28282 said: "You know what's also racially tone deaf? Mentioning color or race in every conversation within the minute and then wondering why other people focus on it."

You are incredibly focused on race, as far as I can tell from this board. You are in no position whatsoever to criticize others for bringing up the topic too often.

[South Florida]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 9:55am

Yeah Dave, a little intense over something like this, most of what she said was accurate.

[Dave28282]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 10:02am

kdogg36 said: "You are incredibly focused on race, as far as I can tell from this board. You are in no position whatsoever to criticize others for bringing up the topictoo often."

I'm focused on people focusing only on race. I see what happens.

We should all take that position, if we care about equality.

 

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 11:12am

As a white male living in NYC I experience this idiocy on a daily basis. Black man outside the liquor store "Can I get a dollar?" Me: "No" Him: "F*CK you you KKK looking mother****er." Oh okay great, thanks. 

You don't sound like the victim in this scenario, sorry. Which side of the toxic (and ongoing) legacy of racism would you prefer to be on? Anyway, I'm reluctant to enter this sorry conversation because my inarticulateness will probably cause me to step on a landmine, but mostly because Dave28282 is race troll who has gone through several incarnations on this board and anybody who wastes their time on him mistaken to even try reasoning with him.

[Taryn]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 11:29am

ArtMan said: "Taryn said: "Taryn said: "It may not have been civil, but nothing the model said wasinaccurate. "

All white people are racist is quite inaccurate.

Not really."

Then the same can be said that all people of colorare just as racist, especially within their own sectors,"

Nope.

[javero]

Posted: 9/4/17 at 5:18pm

As a black man working in the nation's capital I experience this idiocy on a daily basis.  Black man outside CVS when I exit with a white openly gay colleague/friend "yo bruh...can you help a brutha out?"  Me: "Ain't got today it bruh".  Him: "See, that's how you bourgie ass niggas get once you start hanging round dem white f*ggots".  Colleague: "Jay, just ignore him".  Him: "Dat's right Jay...listen to your bitch nigga".

Folks who live in the streets develop a very tough exterior.  Bravado and the ability to defend themselves from the predators among them is a very basic skill.  They also learn to read strangers in an instant.  After being rebuffed, they know exactly what type of insult is most likely to get under our skin, regardless of race, ethnicity, creed or sexual orientation.  The streets are full of bitter people of all stripes with chips on their shoulders who can't buy a friggin' break. Not making excuses for misanthropes who begrudge the success and happiness of others though.