Jbroadway, I see what you mean but I don't think that's fair as like I said, "to favour" certain people based on race, or getting a role or not getting a role based on color is bad per definition, also when the intentions are good.
At the moment, statistics show that the number of contracts matches society in musical theatre. Which is extremely high, given the fact of chance like I described, so that's great and something to be grateful for.
JBroadway said: "BTW, this is an image/metaphor I've always found helpful in explaining why strides need to be taken to give more opportunities to marginalized people. Dave, you seem to bearguing for "equality" - the image on the left, but look how that turns out.
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That's an interesting theory, but how would that translat
Georgeand dot, can you please refrain from this attacking behaviour and get to the point?
Can you explain the burning desire for uneven level then? The core of this discussion is exclusion behaviour. People thinking they have earned the right to unfair behaviour. This agent is trying to rise above that. If we want a level playing field, we should also accept the fact that a white cast is a possibility. If 10 actors audition for a role, of which one black, there is a 90% chance
Elfuhbuh, about the casting, we already discussed that with true equal casting any scenario is possible and that if 10 actors audition for a role, of which 9 white and 1 black there is a 90% chance that the role does not go to a black person, based purely on neutral statistics. So what does truly "equal" mean for some people? Matching society? Matching the chances of roles percentage wise? Demanding more, to an uneven level, to get "even". What is
I have a hunch that some people on here secretly definitely realize there is this forced pressure for this unfair behaviour on casting agencies but it is just fine with them because they want to get even for things from the past. But it is oh so harmful. Equality starts where rising above this (like the agent) begins. The statistics are already level, so what's the next step? Staying in the victim role and maintain separation or rising above it?
My favourite artists in the world are black and asian.
I'm definitely not racist. If anything I'm a bit more intelligent than some here, because I completely understand that agent who rises above separation and what actual equality means and what the right path for the future is. And it is not exclusion behaviour, demanding uneven levels and 1 way streets.
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I've just been called a "racist". From the last explanation, I gather thatis reportable, right?"
Is your previous post reportable where you make a plea for calling people racist whenever we can?
I have explained very well in 2 posts why I think your standpoint is wrong, without you calling that word. Because in my opinion it's always better to explain your opinion than just calling someone a name. I&
Elfuhbuh, what exactly do you not understand? I just said there's a difference between standpoint and behaviour in a discussion. If you can't tell these 2 apart then you actually have no business being on any forum. Being rude or calling names is why I say he has no business being on any forum. If he can't keep the latter out of the first. That's something very different from: Claiming that someone has no business being on any forum because they don't a
Scotty, Anakela is right. Just saying racist stops any discussion. For example, I actually think you are a subconscious racist, and I explained why in my previous posts, without you actually calling it. Now, should I just call you that in every post without explaining why? Or should I explain it, like I did, so you can explain yourself and react on that?
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "What people are having issues with is the seemingly censorship of one side who feel as if they are just calling people out on what they are REALLY saying and revealing about themselves and yet all the blatantly racist material is just being left up.
For POC, there's no real difference if a personal attack is against somebody using someone's user name or if they just hide behind a technicality of the rule by mention
And what would you do on a new forum? Hyperventilate when someone has a different opinion than yours and then calling him/her names without personal attacks being corrected by a moderator?
But hey, according to your logic, if a show has an all-white cast, they MUST have been the absolute best people for the job, because white performers are clearly superior to actors of color, right? There's just no way these actors of color who are taking over Broadway could possibly be talented enough on their own, right? That's what I'm gathering from your posts.
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2 said: "I'd argue there have been numerous posts in which a disdain for black people has been expressed."
I totally agree. It happens in the way AlfredDrakeII describes. Forever entrenching the idea that black people should be treated differently, the whole core of this discussion.
You might not be ready to understand that this is not the solution to equality, but some people, including that agent are.
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