Genderbending in Hamilton.

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Call_me_jorge
#1Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 8:12pm

Someone made a thread about this earlier, but it seemed more like a joke to me so here's a real one. I mentioned that billy porter would be my dream Angelica if they ever decide to genderbend.


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#2Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 8:14pm

I was joking at first, but Annaleigh Ashford as King George would be sublime.


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#3Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 8:41pm

I mentioned that billy porter would be my dream Angelica if they ever decide to genderbend.

 

Why and why?

 

I was joking at first, but Annaleigh Ashford as King George would be sublime.

 

She would be cute if that would add anything.  But only if she got a better dialect coach than for Kinky Boots.  But again...why?


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kristinj1
#4Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 8:45pm

I find the overall imbalance in the amount of work available to men versus women in theatre (over 70% male) to be highly embarrassing given that it's 2016.  The ratio has barely budged since the '50s.  If there is any gender bending in Hamilton, IMHO it needs to be more women playing the male roles.

 

Updated On: 1/4/16 at 08:45 PM

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CindersGolightly
#5Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 8:56pm

Her dialect in "Kinky Boots" was not supposed to be a plain British one, it was a specific North Hampton dialect from a professional dialect coach. She isn't bad at dialects, the creative team decided to give all of the factory workers dialects from poorer places in London.


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Mike66
#6Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 9:34pm

"Genderbending" is, at it's core, a gimmick.

Why would one of the most successful shows in the history of Broadway need to do something gimmicky?

Maybe in 2024, to squeeze a few more dollars out of a satiated audience, but until then, why would you want to do this? 

(And as to the percentage of roles for men and for women -- the decision on what gets produced on Broadway (or at the corner storefront stage) is way beyond my input.  Many have said this before -- producers put on shows that they think they can make money from.  I don't think a Broadway producer would turn down a change to make money based on anything else.)

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tazber
#7Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 9:49pm

I think Caitlyn Jenner would be a great Angelica or Aaron Burr.


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#8Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 10:18pm

A female Hamilton or Burr would be completely awesome.

 

tazber said: "I think Caitlyn Jenner would be a great Angelica or Aaron Burr."

 

I can't tell if you're being transphobic or earnest.

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gypsy101
#9Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 10:22pm

I don't think Caitlyn can sing so I'd say transphobic.


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CindersGolightly
#10Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 10:24pm

Taz makes one funny joke once and thinks they can get away with such a dry attempt at comedy. Laughable.


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tazber
#11Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/4/16 at 10:57pm

CindersGolightly said: "Taz makes one funny joke once and thinks they can get away with such a dry attempt at comedy. Laughable.

 

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Thank you, but it really wasn't that funny to begin with.

 

 


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Updated On: 1/4/16 at 10:57 PM

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Mister Matt
#12Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/5/16 at 4:51pm

Her dialect in "Kinky Boots" was not supposed to be a plain British one, it was a specific North Hampton dialect from a professional dialect coach.

 

I never said her dialect was supposed to be "plain British".  I'm very familiar with many different British dialects.  That's probably why I noticed that she didn't do it very well.  I assume you mean Northampton (one word), which is northwest of London halfway to Birmingham.  Annaleigh's dialect sounded like a blend of two or three British dialects with an American lilt.  It annoys me, but it may not annoy others.  And it happens all the time.  Annaleigh didn't get nearly as much flack as Patti LuPone did years ago.

 

the creative team decided to give all of the factory workers dialects from poorer places in London.

 

And Northampton I assume, since it isn't in London.


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Elfuhbuh
#13Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/5/16 at 9:55pm

I honestly don't see why this would be necessary unless the show was being performed at a school with an unbalanced boy-to-girl or girl-to-boy ratio.


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Updated On: 1/5/16 at 09:55 PM

Lilly7
#14Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/5/16 at 10:04pm

Eh, I rather have a musical focusing on a woman instead. Women in history rarely have their story told. 

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gypsy101
#15Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/6/16 at 12:19am

Elfuhbuh said: "I honestly don't see why this would be necessary unless the show was being performed at a school with an unbalanced boy-to-girl or girl-to-boy ratio."

 

You mean 99% of high school theater programs in America?


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Elfuhbuh
#16Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/6/16 at 3:03am

Yeah, pretty much.


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dramamama611
#17Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/6/16 at 3:11am

BTW....LMM stated in an interview, that at schools  he fully expects this to happen.  You know, in 2112, when licensing becomes available.  (This is the time and circumstance that he was thought white peeps would play the roles.)


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dramamama611
#18Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/6/16 at 3:11am

Double post


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#19Genderbending in Hamilton.
Posted: 1/6/16 at 3:11am

Oops...triple list.


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Updated On: 1/6/16 at 03:11 AM