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CATSNYrevival
#25Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/13/15 at 4:25pm

Because Sweeney Todd sounded like such a great idea at the time.

 

Updated On: 10/13/15 at 04:25 PM

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#26Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/13/15 at 6:09pm

I am torn on which version of Pimpernel I find to be the best. I mean clearly I love them all *looks at own name* but there are certainly bits and pieces I enjoy more from each. 



Having already been familar with the original, it has always been hard in the later versions to accept "You Are My Home" as the love song when it was (and still is on my OBCR) the brother and sister song. On the flip side though, "I'll Forget You" in act two is one of the best songs in the show and the changes made in the staging of the final trick is FAR superior. I don't know if when I saw it the first time it was really early in the run but man, did it just fail as an ending! I have always wondered if I just happen to catch a SUPER early version that first time or if it was always staged having the climax happen off stage with only sound effects. So much better having it happen on stage and have it only be Percy. You actually worry for a moment when you see it.



All that said..... I will believe it when I see it and as much as I love Pimpernel, I hope I don't see it. The last time we had a Wildhorn revival, well look what happened there. They love him over seas and as much as I love him, I feel like over seas is where his work belongs. And good for him that he has success somewhere in the world. I just hate having to watch the poor guy struggle and fail time after time on Broadway. It's at the point where I feel like he could put out a super a rare masterpiece and it would still get picked apart and panned because that's just what happens to Wildhorn shows and people just expect it the moment his name is attached to it.

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Mr Roxy
#27Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/13/15 at 6:15pm

Bingo 

 

You hit the nail on the head. Put out his scores on CD's and let those of us who enjoy his music be able to do so.


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#28Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/13/15 at 8:52pm

CATSNYrevival said: "Because Sweeney Todd sounded like such a great idea at the time."

 

Sweeney Todd at least didn't involve ****ing a corpse.


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Updated On: 10/13/15 at 08:52 PM

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#29Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 2:10pm

Did the new version do the trick? Yeah.

 

Well, I imagine it did for you.  Not for me.  If licensing a version speaks for itself, then Maltby and Shire had nothing nice to say about Big.  That example alone proves to me that licensing a version has nothing to do with quality whatsoever.

 

Which version don't you prefer, Mister Matt -- the "red cover," or the FCLO rendition??

 

Of the numerous versions I've seen live in their original productions, the first pre-Broadway tour production (immediately following the Alley world premiere) was my favorite.  Whether or not it "did the trick" is up to whomever you decide, I assume.


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#30Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 2:52pm

Re: Jekyll revival - Calhoun made some good cuts (and additions), but it is single handed-ly the trashiest staging of a Broadway musical anywhere I had ever seen. The thought of having to see "Dangerous Game" again in that version makes me cringe. And Jekyll & Hyde is my favorite musical!

 

 

I'm with Roxy, though -- why doesn't he put together a recording of the big numbers from his upcoming international musicals in English? He's got an enormous talent pool (many with big followings), and many of these are already high quality recorded for the foreign producers. I love "Playing His Game" from Death Note and "What Makes a King" from Artus. 

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Mister Matt
#31Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 3:52pm

Walk Like a Woman from Carmen is one of my favorites.


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#32Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 3:53pm

It is a win win situation

 

For Wildhorn haters, he is never on Broadway again even though no one forced you to pay to see his work to begin with. Why would you do so if you are not a fan?

 

For his fans, they get to hear more of his work.

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FindingNamo
#33Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 4:10pm

We all know nobody went to the shows because of Liord Brantley.  The public hasn't even been given a chance to know what greatness they are missing. 


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#34Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/14/15 at 11:13pm

Agree with Philly re the recent revival of J/ H.

 

Although we thoroughly enjoyed the original we hated the revival with a passion. Confrontation in the revival was abysmally staged and was downright laughable. Constantine was in over his head but Cox was the one bright spot in it. 


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broadwayboy223
#35Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 12:02am

Anyone have links to Carmen or Artus Excaliber english demos? I would love to hear them in english. I wish Camille Claudel would have released a cast album. I love "Gold"

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#36Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 11:19am

The demo that was floating around from Carmen a while ago is actually pretty different from the stage show. A Prague Cast Recording exists, however, and in English on the 2011 "Frank Wildhorn & Friends - Live from Vienna" CD you can hear Pia Douwes sing "Viva," which is the big number from it. There's a DVD from the Prague cast a few years ago as well - the staging is insane.

 

I don't believe there has even been promos with the English demos/versions of the ARTUS music, which is unfortunate. There are some fantastic melodies in there.

 

"Camille Claudel" is now called "Gold" and there is a Japanese full recording, as well as a DVD version I believe. Linda's recorded a few of the songs for her album "Now" - "Woman in His Arms" and "What's Never Been Done Before." 

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#37Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 1:09pm

Not bad from a guy who many feel is a no talent hack. Not bad at all.


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makeanomelette
#38Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 2:21pm

So happy that Pimpernell is being revived! Honestly Wildhorn has written such great songs for men, like Into the Fire and This is the Moment.

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#39Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 2:31pm

^^ If you have not heard the score to ARTUS yet, wait until you hear all the great songs for Arthur ("What Makes a King" Was Macht Einen König Aus) and Lancelot ("You Alone" - at 3:07 in the video preview below).

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cg3YzBLh-w 

broadwayboy223
#40Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 3:31pm

It makes me sad that Wildhorn has such a bad rep. Jekyll and  Hyde was one of the first musicals I saw live   (I saw the 2012 tour). It reignited my passion for theatre. He writes beautiful and good scores that some of which didn't deserve the flack they got. Glad to know other people enjoy his music too :). In a way I feel Lucy Simon and him are similar (besides that Secret Garden was hugely successful). I get genuinely shocked when people say they don't like The Secret Garden. It's such a beautiful show. I also really love the Zhivago cast album. I might be by myself on that one though. 

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#41Wildhorn News
Posted: 10/15/15 at 9:27pm

I wouldn't mind another staging of "Pimpernel" or "Waiting For the Moon aka "Scott & Zelda". Just not sure he should bring it to Broadway as my friend Frank does not fare well on those famous 12/13 blocks of NYC. Also wouldn't mind another try at "Civil War". These were my favorite Wildhorn shows. Just my 2 cents.


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