Yes, I know of the 1,000,000+ timed viewed ITW thread, but this is about the soundtrack which is on everyone's mind I'm sure...
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I Was so disappointed the Sweeney soundtrack didn't include the Ballad, which was recorded but never filmed so they could stay on budget after they had to shut down production when Depp was called away because of his daughter's illness. I'll be very disappointed if Meryl's new number isn't included. I read in one article that Sondheim also wrote a new song for the Baker and his Wife that was cut but I never saw anything else about it. Has anyone heard anything about this?
At any rate, this is great. Too often they will issue highlights and only later an extended version causing the people who love a work the most to have to double-dip.
Rainbows was never in this production IIRC. But I would assume that was the new song for the Baker and his Wife--the demo is floating around out there (as well as demos for Hello Little Girl and a new I Wish--all were done for the 90s planned film.) Rainbows is also on the new Marry Me a Little cast album.
NoName, I thought the ballad sequences with the ghosts were cut because they decided it didn't "fit" the film? They wouldn't have really needed Depp for them, considering how they were scripted...
I don't remember if it was a 2-disc edition or not, but the CHICAGO soundtrack included a bunch of numbers, including some of the instrumental music and the jewel that is "Class" with the lyrics that John Kander and Fred Ebb always wanted for the song. I couldn't be more exciting about all things involving this movie.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
No, Eric, Ballad was cut because Depp's daughter was hospitalized with a serious illness and it was touch and go whether she would survive. He left the set for three or four days to be with her and his wife at the hospital in London. Burton shot around him for one day but then had to shut down production until Depp returned. Burton is famous for bringing his films in on time and on budget -- it's why he gets so much borderline commercial material into production. The money people tell him how much he can spend and he sticks to it. Sweeney was budgeted at $50 million, an incredibly small amount for what you see and hear onscreen. To make up for the lost days and money involved in the delay, he looked through the unshot portions of the script and literally tore out the pages with the Ballad. It was to have been sung as either a quintet or a sextet by the ghosts of Sweeney's dead customers with some minor special effects. But I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't too upset by its loss. At any rate, the film came in early and on budget.
NoName--I had no idea. Why couldn't they film it without Depp? I always assumed it was one of the casualties when the film changed direction after cutting all the chorus numbers.
I don't know the details, Eric. It was discussed in one of the many short documentaries about the film that were released at the time of the film's release, some of which are on the DVD and Blu-ray. There were also some press reports about it. Maybe the actors weren't scheduled to be around then and couldn't be assembled that quickly, or those sets weren't ready at that point? Burton did shoot around him for one day but then had to shut down. Cutting the scene meant not having to extend the shooting schedule (which Burton just doesn't do) when Depp did return, and kept the film on budget (which he always, always does), is the way it was explained.
I actually am not sure I've ever watched most of the mini documentaries on the disc, lol. Interesting--thanks for the details! (Apologies for doubting you--I just thought that was all hearsay.)
Eric, the lyrics used in the cut of "Class" that's on the soundtrack are different from the lyrics heard on the Broadway albums. In the book COLORED LIGHTS, Fred Ebb talks about how he wasn't allowed to use the lyrics he originally wanted for "Class" in the Broadway version, but he was happy he finally could use them in the film (I believe it's only the ending; in the film, we get "every guy is a snot/every girl is a twat/holy sh!t/holy sh!it/what became of class?" which in the Broadway version is the tamer: "everybody you watch/ has got a snake in his crotch/holy crap/holy crap/what became of class?").
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
Everybody you watch 'S got his brains in his crotch. Holy crap (holy crap) What a shame (what a shame) What became Of Class?
It always seemed weird to me that Fred Ebb would prefer the movie's twat/ snot rhyme to the fresher broadway original, and then throw away that last internal rhyme for the rougher movie version. I wish the great lyricists would just leave their greatest work alone.
I, too, was under the impression that "The Ballad..." was cut for strictly artistic/cinematic reasons (4th wall breaking narrative not traditionally well served by film technique, etc.) I've heard many mentions, including Sondheim's. If anyone has definitive footage that explains it was budgetary, I'd like to hear/see it. It seems odd that such a decision would be made based on an actor's emergency. I am ready to be convinced, I'd like to know the facts.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling