Shows going stale...

tmbyru Profile Photo
tmbyru
#25Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 2:25pm

I think the point is that "new" doesn't belong there whether official or in a logo. New is for new shows, and titles should be renamed to take out "new" if it ain't new anymo! You hear me "Wicked" people?

Besides, what's new anyways these days? Everything seems to be recycled from an older idea... Nice Work, Lysistrata, Once, Leap (puke), Ghost, Newsies...

LizzieCurry Profile Photo
LizzieCurry
#26Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 2:53pm

thespian geek: I've actually seen the same Phantom understudy both times I've seen the show on Broadway (James Romick). Loved him the first time. Second time he was fine but had obviously been there way too long.


"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt

bwaylvsong
#27Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 3:11pm

^I've seen Romick (who has been in the show at least 10 years) twice out of the three times I've seen Phantom. He was great both times, but I slightly prefered McGillin and am dying to see Panaro.

Mister Matt Profile Photo
Mister Matt
#28Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 3:46pm

Besides, what's new anyways these days? Everything seems to be recycled from an older idea... Nice Work, Lysistrata, Once, Leap (puke), Ghost, Newsies...

What do you mean "these days"? Show Boat, The Boys From Syracuse, Oklahoma, Carousel, Wonderful Town, West Side Story, My Fair Lady...


"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian

thespian geek Profile Photo
thespian geek
#29Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 4:09pm

It wasn't James Romick that I saw, it was Paul A. Schaefer (I had to look it up).

MikeInTheDistrict Profile Photo
MikeInTheDistrict
#30Shows going stale...
Posted: 4/30/12 at 8:55pm

Was Les Miz really in that bad shape back in '96? According the that article, Ivan Rutherford was the Valjean who got sacked. I saw him in that role in the tour several years later, and he was excellent. I can't imagine him being so bad they had to downgrade him to the Innkeeper.

Vespertine1228 Profile Photo
Vespertine1228
#31Shows going stale...
Posted: 5/1/12 at 9:35am

Another pertinent recent example is the last few years of Rent on Broadway. I went three or four times because friends from out of town really wanted to see it. The cast was routinely terrible. You could never understand what anyone was saying. There was just a lot of screaming in place of singing.

I think if you get into a long running show you're more likely to treat it like a normal job. It's not like anyone other than tourists are going to see Rock of Ages, Mamma Mia, etc. now anyway.

JRybka Profile Photo
JRybka
#32Shows going stale...
Posted: 5/1/12 at 9:39am

I actually went and saw POTO last year and thought it wasn't "stale" -- I enjoyed it. One of the LEAST stale shows after all these years is CHICAGO. I always love the show every time.


"Whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport. General opinion's starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed, but I don't see that. It seems to me that love is everywhere. Often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy, but it's always there - fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. When the planes hit the Twin Towers, as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge - they were all messages of love. If you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling you'll find that love actually is all around."

defyinggravity2 Profile Photo
defyinggravity2
#33Shows going stale...
Posted: 5/1/12 at 6:11pm

To all you guys bitching about shows getting stale, you've probably seen those shows multiple times. Well, duh, a show gets stale if you've seen it several times. I think what this thread is about is productions that just don't have heart anymore.