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Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys

Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys

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aasjb4ever
#2Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 4:54pm

****ers!
(just know I find any excuse to blame the tony voters for anything)
But I guess I understand what they mean....

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ljay889
#2Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 4:58pm

Thank God. This is great news. That nomination was really bothering me.

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James885
#3Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 5:03pm

Good. I liked the revival but that costume nomination was undeserved, since they used the same costumes as the original production.


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everythingtaboo
#4Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 5:06pm

Not that I don't love Santo's work in general, but that nomination always confused me.




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adamgreer
#5Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 5:07pm

It makes sense, but again, it took them THIS long to realize that?

This really doesn't speak well for the intelligence of the people in charge of the Tonys, that they only just now realized this.

Ryan4
#6Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 5:12pm

It was a head-scratcher from the beginning for me, since the costumes looked identical to my eye.

The real problem is that they didn't make this call before the nominations, which has deprived another designer of a nomination this year.

Doesn't change the competition at all, though. La Cage wins in a walk.

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Mildred Plotka
#7Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 5:13pm

Okay here's what I think happened (a complete guess, but it makes a nice theory, I think):

The nominators at all costs didn't want to give a nomination to Addams Family in this category (as it would have won, likely). I thought the costumes were the most successful part of that production (and if the puppets are included in that design, moreso). When they saw that Ragtime slid in, they had to realize the costumes were the same, they thought this would be a perfect F.U. to the producers of Addams.


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Updated On: 5/13/10 at 05:13 PM

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bjh2114
#8Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:03pm

I thought they grouped the puppets into set. Also, there were plenty of other shows they could have nominated instead. Like Night Music for instance.

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dramamama611
#9Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:16pm

A CONSIPIRACY to keep Addams family from getting a WIN?




REALLY?? Oy.


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Michael Bennett
#10Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:20pm

Its a shame that no replacement nominee will be added to the ballot. in a season of so many worthy nominees (in this field) a mistake by the nominating committee shouldn't keep a deserving candidate from being included.

#11Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:25pm

Absolutely- it was a "F-You" to Addams Family. If they would have nominated it, it would have won. Of course you could say that about Best Musical, too. I call it the "Aida" effect.

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Mildred Plotka
#12Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:29pm

I wouldn't go so far as to use the word conspiracy, but the omission was very intentional. I think they were snubbed in several places. Best Musical, Best Actor, Best Features Actress (Carolee), and the omitted design noms. I think the nominating committee knows that the voters are now mostly people who have money to gain/lose from these awards, and want to prevent Addams from sweeping because it will do well on the road.


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Updated On: 5/13/10 at 06:29 PM

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ljay889
#14Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:32pm

These nominations are such a joke sometime. Just nominate the worthy contenders. Was there really any need for La Cage to get every single design nomination? I do not think they were all deserved. That must have been another way of keeping Addams out.
Updated On: 5/13/10 at 06:32 PM

Brick
#15Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 6:47pm

ljay889, you've been yelling about this for awhile. You called it.

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Marquise
#16Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:02pm

perfect reason why i don't buy into any of this award show crap. it's all fixed and rigged. total bvllsh!t...always was and always will be. that's why i like what i like regardless of how many awards it won or not.
Updated On: 5/13/10 at 07:02 PM

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Mildred Plotka
#17Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:06pm

I also think some of the Ragtime nominations were a way ofsticking it to Promises. I actually really liked the costumes for Promises. Katie Finnerans jacket alone warrants a nomination.


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rjm516
#18Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:09pm

The owl? Totally. Funniest line.

Some of the noms really are ridiculous. How could a mistake like this happen and persist for so long?? Makes no sense. A certain committee needs a kick in the arse to get its act together.

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SNAFU
#19Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:10pm

I wonder if they will pull that nomination from the Drama Desk Awards too?


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ljay889
#20Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:26pm

The Drama Desk should also pull the nomination for Ragtime's orchestrations. They are the original orchestrations, and they won the Drama Desk in 1998! Totally puzzling.

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Marquise
#21Ragtime Costumes Withdrawn From Tonys
Posted: 5/13/10 at 7:32pm

You see, now they're just throwing names into the ring without any kind of knowledge or consideration because if they had recycled material wouldn't be re-nominated. Like I said: TOTAL CA-CA.