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Posted by Horsey 2003-11-06 12:13:42


ROSIE on OPRAH Today!

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Posted by mamamia sammy 2003-11-06 12:20:29


Is this the same Rosie who said that liars get cancer?

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Posted by orion59 2003-11-06 12:23:51


sammy,

What was that comment all about? I heard just a part of the story on the news this morning as I was getting ready for work and figured I must have heard wrong

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Posted by Horsey 2003-11-06 12:25:10


That quote is disgusting.

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Posted by robbiej 2003-11-06 12:32:08


What do you find disgusting about it?

The fact that she said it?

Or the fact that it's being reported?

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Posted by mamamia sammy 2003-11-06 12:32:35


Apparantly Rosie said this to one of her staff members (a cancer survivor). She said if you lie again you get cancer again.

Isn't that sweet?

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Posted by mamamia sammy 2003-11-06 12:33:13


Personally, I've never been mad enough at anyone to even think about saying that.

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Posted by orion59 2003-11-06 12:40:51


I guess I didn't hear it wrong after all. I can't imagine even thinking something like that. And didn't Rosie's mother die of cancer? She should know better but, I find it not at all difficult to believe she said it.

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Posted by mamamia sammy 2003-11-06 12:43:05


She admitted she said it!! She said she "apologized". Nice. Real nice.

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Posted by bluemangirl 2003-11-06 12:55:33


She also said she didn't intend for the staffer to take the comment the way she did. How else are you supposed to take a comment like that?! That was such a horrid thing to say.

Also, how is she going to be on Oprah today if she's due in court all day? Is she just in court in the morning and flying out this afternoon? Just wondering.

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Posted by bluemangirl 2003-11-06 12:56:27


Oh I see, it's already been taped, I thought she was doing a real interview. Sorry.

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Posted by Al Dente 2003-11-06 13:06:18


She said WHAT?

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Posted by sheekala 2003-11-06 13:44:57


sadly she did say it.

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Posted by bwaylyric 2003-11-06 14:01:55


It's not even gonna be a real interview-type show (no juicy gossip). Today's show is dedicated to celebrities' favorite hot-spots, including Bachelor Bob and Cindy Crawford...and Rosie, too.

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Posted by localonecrew 2003-11-06 14:05:04


you think horsey is a rosie shill? NAAAWWWWWW! the web site listed in his/her profile isnt too much of a giveaway

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Posted by papalovesmambo 2003-11-06 14:06:35


evidently in a meeting rosie told a magazine staff member that her silence about something was tantamount to lying and that, "you know what happens to people who lie they get sick and they get cancer. If they keep lying, they get it again." the woman to whom she was speaking is a breast cancer survivor. she asked rosie, "Your mother died of breast cancer. Was she lying?" and rosie replied, "yes."

man i couldn't make this up if i tried! and rosie did apologize to her...outside of the courtroom yesterday in front of the cameras for something that happened a year ago.

now we can count out cancer victims as future revenue for taboo. maybe we can get nancy reagan to say that ronny was a big boy george fan, that would clear off another whole section of the population.

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Posted by lc1965 2003-11-06 14:09:44


Would LOVE to hear her explanation of the context. Maybe I lack imagination, but I cannot imagine what context would have that comment be inoffensive.

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Posted by robbiej 2003-11-06 14:16:51


OK...I'm willing to guess a context in which it's not as awful as it sounds.

I know...futile...cause no matter how you slice it, it's awful.

What if...

What if Rosie believes that people who lie are holding things down inside them, things that are toxic. And all those lies taken together create sickness...such as cancer. There are many people who believe this very thing.

So...there's a context.

Do I believe that to be that case? Doubt it. Do I think that NO MATTER WHAT you don't say that to a cancer survivor??? Yes.

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Posted by dollypoop 2003-11-06 14:18:27


How about the woman calling Rosie the C word that rhymes with hunt and undermining her at every step? A quote can be taken out of context and let's face it, the press is out to crucify Rosie and any many here seem to be happy to egg them on.

Conservatives attacked the Reagan mini-series without seeing it saying it distorted the truth to fit an agenda- Fox News does that daily.

It is public record Jessica Lynch was not in danger in the hospital- but the tv movie makes it look like a 30s melodrama.... will people screech about truth distortion there?

Wake up people, the conservative movement has an agenda- and anyone gay is their enemy. Watch the new abortion law be interpreted as a way to make ALL abortions illegal. And expect gays to become the new enemy in the witchhunt. After all, the court invovled in the Rosie case ruled that her lover could not claim spousal confidentiality and had to testify against her.

Was what Rosie said something I would say to a cancer survivor? No, probably not. But no one here knows the whole story. Why contribute to the destruction of her?

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Posted by JohnPopa 2003-11-06 14:19:58


Honestly, I'm going to side with Rosie on this one. Yes, it was a comment in very bad taste but, honestly, some people can deal with jokes that are in really bad taste and some cannot. As one who throws out the more than occasional off-color bit of humor, I can say that when you say something hoping to be funny that hurts someone's feelings, all you can do is say you're sorry and that you were kidding. Not to say she should have said what she said but I can understand saying something meant in humor (albeit obvious bad taste) and coming off badly. Rosie's known to have a brash sense of humor, seems like she might have just said something to someone who wasn't up for the joke.

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Posted by dollypoop 2003-11-06 14:22:33


I love John Popa.

Thanks for stating an opinion that may differ but is well put.

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Posted by orion59 2003-11-06 14:26:16


Something like that is, unfortunately, typical of Rosie. When she does not things her way she gets mad and when she gets mad she spews out these horribly hurtful comments.

It's sad that there are people posting messages here defending her and saying that teh dislike toward her is because she is a strong and empowered woman and therefore threatening in some way.

Those are not the words of a strong, intelligent woman. they are the words of a childish person who lashes out with venom. Let's pay our admiration to the women in thsi world who are truely strong, intelligent and know how to use their brains to accomplish things and gain power instead of childish tantrums and hurtful remarks

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Posted by papalovesmambo 2003-11-06 14:31:14


no freakin' way folks. this was in a meeting in which rosie used that as a threat to try to goad a woman into admitting something. it's especially heinous when you consider the last part of that comment, "and if they keep lying they get it again," seeing as how the woman has suffered through cancer already.

and a vast right wing conspiracy to attack rosie? even hil doesn't use that one much anymore. to tie reporting on rosie's case to partial birth abortion, jessica lynch and reagan? dolly, time for your meds. trust me, my fellow aryan race homophobic war mongering neo-cons and i have much bigger targets than rosie...we're focussing on the true evil: spongebob squarepants!

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Posted by iflitifloat 2003-11-06 14:35:10


It would be important to know if she *knew* that the woman was a cancer survivor. It's the difference between a tasteless comment that may have arisen out of her own issues and outright cruelty if she DID, in fact, know. Not a comment I'd like to have to take ownership of in any form...but I think knowing the context is significant.

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Posted by sheekala 2003-11-06 14:37:40


I can tear out throats with the best of them and I've joked non-stop with close friends who are very ill but who make light of their dire state to bring some humor to the situation. It's more of the nasty way it was directed to the other party. I've been thinking a great deal about Rosie since these posts and TABOO troubles have arisen. I've seen her change a persons life with the writing of a check or remembering someone's name after a show who she met at intermission and send that fan into the might with a huge smile and an even bigger memory of meeting their beloved icon. I have also seen her destroy someone for no good reason or go after a weaker enemy with the intent to kill. Now we all have that in us, or at least some of us do, it's how we choose to DEAL with these emotions that speaks of our character.

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Posted by orion59 2003-11-06 14:41:08


I hear SpongeBob is a real bitch to work with and he's gay. not to mention he's kind of fat. i hate him

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Posted by papalovesmambo 2003-11-06 14:50:54


i can deal with all of those things orion, it's his inherent yellow spongeyness that really sticks in my craw!

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Posted by sheekala 2003-11-06 14:52:12


Don't get me started on Elmo! What a "bitter queen".

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Posted by FaceOnMars 2003-11-06 15:03:34


When this was made public last year, Rosie denied having said it. Take a look...


With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Friday, Sept. 27, 2002

Rosie Says She Didn't Insult Cancer Survivor

Rosie O'Donnell, who the New York Post reports has cut down on her anti-depression medication, is depressed and angry over an accusation that she made an outrageous remark to an employee of the soon-to-disappear Rosie magazine.

According to People magazine, the magazine's publishers Gruner + Jahr have put together a 40-page legal complaint that Rosie told a female manager at the magazine who had survived a bout with cancer "You know what happens to people who lie? They get cancer."

The Post notes that the alleged remark, if true, would be especially outrageous because Rosie's mom died of breast cancer in 1973. Moreover, Rosie has campaigned for a cure for the disease and even written a book about it.

While Rosie admits she blew her top at the woman, she insists that the idea she would have made the alleged remark is simply "absurd."

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Posted by Auggie27 2003-11-06 15:05:03


She's a woman carrying around a lot of pain, a lot of rage, a lot of creative energy. Like many comics, her pain/rage fuel her, early on became a coping skill. Her incisive POV is sometimes witty, sometimes a mean-spirited assault. So yeah, her personal style is a double-edged sword -- bluntness to cut through BS, bluntness to inflict the same kind of pain on other's that she's been through. I read FIND ME. She had a crappy childhood -- and I know, I know, who didn't? We've all ODed on the victim thing. But she works on all these issues, as she candidly admits, and sometimes the woman fails, big time. She lost whatever sense of decent boundaries she's developed in a heated, unguarded moment as she fought a controlling foe for critically important turf--a mag with her name on it. Her anger got the better of her, and her remark was contemptable. She shouldn't have said it, and she should've apologized for it long ago.

But I watched her show, saw her rally many people for B'way, help NYC bigtime after 9/11, put 30-some kids through college with Kellogs, etc, etc. Do those good deeds excuse her being a bitch of death to a woman with cancer? No. But I still have trouble seeing her as a sub-human monster. I hope TABOO does well (a lot of reps are involved that matter in the theater more than hers), and I hope she rebounds. This may be a defining moment in her life, who knows?

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Posted by dollypoop 2003-11-06 15:24:24


Bravo/a Auggie.

I think I love you....

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Posted by jrb_actor 2003-11-06 15:28:56


MY OPINION:

1. She's human. Who makes mistakes. Like all of us.
2. She a human who makes mistakes like all of us in the public eye who is also under TARGET at the moment.
3. A lot of people talk about her here like they know her. Fine, if you do, and you speak from a place of knowledge. But, the rest of us DO NOT KNOW HER. We can not possibly know how she really is or understand contexts of situations. It's so silly to form such grand opinions of her when we are gathering our info from the media--who NEVER lies or slants truths.

THUS,

1. I will wait until I have met her to form an opinion of her.
2. I will wait until I see TABOO to form an opinion of this show.

We sure have used up a TON of bytes on this web site discussing her and the show. Therefore, it must have some worth and meaning to us. Otherwise, why would we waste our time and energy?

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Posted by Auggie27 2003-11-06 15:32:06


Amen, JRB. For my money, the last word.