Posted by RippedMan 2013-10-06 23:59:45
Is this thing still happening?
Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-10-07 00:11:16
In short: yes.
Posted by Dollypop 2013-10-07 13:36:48
"Long live God!"
Posted by caskey 2013-10-09 22:11:45
Posted by caskey 2013-10-09 22:12:22
sorry...link didn't work first time
Posted by disneybroadwayfan22 2013-10-09 23:11:13
I'm sorry: Having grown people wearing costumes designed for teenagers/young adults isn't working for me at all. And the set is kind of weird.
Posted by RippedMan 2013-10-10 00:13:03
That's the tour? Who is in this? What? When did they even have auditions?
Posted by JBZicker2009 2013-10-10 01:46:46
Is the show out on tour right now???? Who is producing it?
Posted by xoffender45 2013-10-10 02:39:45
I love that he's all like "Everyone in the play plays themselves..." but everyone is clearly playing their Broadway counterpart.
This casting was no accident.
Posted by RippedMan 2013-10-10 03:28:19
That is eerily like a watered-down version of the Broadway show. But is that the tour? The producer is some Canadian company.
Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-10-10 10:35:47
Yeah, it's the tour. A list of (some of) the dates can be found below.
Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-10-10 10:41:56
Also, the fact that it seems to be a watered-down representation of the Broadway revival does not surprise me in the least. Recently, MTI has begun licensing something labeled Godspell (2012) (link below) that purports to incorporate (quoting the site) "some of the changes and updated references used in the 2011-2012 Broadway Production."
Having seen the script, it is absolutely not as customized as some would expect. It's pretty much the standard "director's notes" edition of the script with character names changed to 2012 cast members' names and some ideas from the show, and some really sloppy cut-and-paste jobs (count all the times they screwed up if you ever get the chance to license it). Now, I understand that you can't stage the average 2012 Godspell outside of what they did for Circle in the Square. What they did was a very specialized, in-the-round production tailored to that venue, re-designed significantly from the more white-bread Papermill Playhouse production it was originally a transfer of. You couldn't do the dangerous crucifixion scene or the trampolines in the round at your theater like Godspell '12 did, and if you can, your theater is likely the exception to the rule. They're not going to mention stuff you can't do like "Here's the trampoline number" or "This is the bit where So-and-so swung from a rope."
But this? This, to me, is money for old rope, a transparent ****-show of a cash-grab with the new orchestrations/arrangements/whatever sanctioned, which is silly considering the "original" Godspell is licensed on a much different basis, with your ability to use the new arrangements of the 2000 (Dan Schachner) or 2001 (Alex Lacamoire) orchestrations grandfathered in, in a much less costly manner. Basically, if you pay MTI for this script, you're licensing the right to use the revival arrangements, some new lyrics, and some updated laugh lines. Frankly, for that trouble, you're better off using a perusal copy of that script to create an errata sheet, licensing the normal script (which is still putting money in their pocket, btw, I never advocate theft), and getting the orchestrations from somewhere else and working out your own royalty arrangement with Michael Holland, as others have been able to do with Schachner and Lacamoire in the past.
Posted by RippedMan 2013-10-10 13:14:29
Is it a canadian cast?
Posted by JohnyBroadway 2013-10-10 13:32:28
That looked like a college production vs. national tour.
Posted by jbainbr 2013-10-12 13:43:26
This show actually did start as a very low scale yet professional production in my very small hometown of Petrolia. It was quite good. But certainly a let down after seeing the Broadway production with Hunter Parrish (amazeballs!). Not quite tour quality, IMO.
Posted by musical3 2013-11-03 21:31:10
People here seem so negative. I just saw the show. The tour may have started today above Bangor, Maine. It was fantastic. I'm a professional musician. It was great! Five-piece band. A great set. Great cast. Canadian talent. Fabulous.
Posted by RippedMan 2013-11-03 21:37:28
I kind of want to see it on Long Island. I don't like the show at all, but kind of curious to see a non-union Canadian touring cast of Godspell.
Posted by Tag 2013-11-03 21:43:26
It's not non-union. The cast are members of (Canadian) Equity.
Posted by musical3 2013-11-03 21:46:08
They leave Maine on Tuesday morning,. It is amazing!
Posted by csmithmusictheater 2013-11-03 22:56:09
In response to g.d.e.l.g.i. comments:
Having just finished Music Directing the revival version for an amatuer group, I can attest that the new orchestrations are vastly different from the 1971 books. Sadly, I'm old enough to have played the original charts twice. While 3 guitars in the new version seemed redundant at first, the Michael Holland layering of sounds is masterful. And vocally the arrangements went from easy to really difficult, but in a good way. While the Director chose to not include all the updating in our production, I believe the impovisational nature of the script allows such leeway. And our Director was very surprised at the reasonalbe royalties. The fees were only negligibly more expensive then the original that he did 6 years ago with another group.
Musically, in my opinion, the show is much improved. The addition of Beautiful City alone is priceless. And I sincerely doubt most directors/music directors would have the wherewithal to have the 2000/2001 arrangements 'grandfathered' into the contract. Best of Luck to the tour!
Posted by operavore 2013-11-04 02:33:50
Oh wait it's a tour of a Drayton production? Hrmm.
Posted by bwayphreak234 2013-11-04 04:28:32
The guy that plays Jesus... I want to do naughty things to him... Yummy.
Posted by musical3 2013-11-04 07:52:36
gdelgi's comments seemed really odd to me, but "csmith" seems accurate. I saw the show yesterday. Two guitars. It was phenomenal. It's funny. It seems up to date. The cast is great.
Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-11-04 08:46:04
And I sincerely doubt most directors/music directors would have the wherewithal to have the 2000/2001 arrangements 'grandfathered' into the contract.
Your past with the show notwithstanding, these arrangements have been available to use for a nominal fee negotiated with the orchestrators themselves for some time (e.g., "grandfathered in" -- you don't need to license a "whole new" version of Godspell to get them). I know whereof I speak. See Stephen Schwartz's FAQ on his website. The only outlier is the 2012 version, and I suspect that rather being an attempt to exploit a flop revival (which you could do by giving out the Holland score and parts and an errata sheet of the new lines and occasional new lyrics; seriously, it's that simple, as proven by the rampant copy-pasting, sometimes not entirely corrected, in the "new" script), it's a cash grab to get money back for the countless investors.
Posted by musical3 2013-11-04 09:24:50
Will you see it? I loved it. I at least am reading your comments, and rereading. I am an arranger so I focus less on that aspect. To me I can write out what I hear, but you've made interesting points more about finances. Thank you for this thread and as you write more, I will respectfully read on.
Posted by Liza's Headband 2013-11-04 09:33:49
"it's a cash grab to get money back for the countless investors. "
Posted by csmithmusictheater 2013-11-04 10:41:58
Hey musical3 - When you saw the show recently, did you notice if they had 2 keyboards? To get the best pit players I always hire early, and so it was a bit of a shock when the Key2 book was 80% guitar and just a few keyboard licks, mostly organ. I found out that the 2012 Broadway production had someone that doubled on both guitar and keys. I ended up having to rehire that position and was lucky enough to find someone with that unique doubling skill set. Was wondering if for the tour they somehow condensed that part into the Key1 and other 2 guitar books.
Don't want to get into an argument, but I don't see a problem with investors trying to recoup their investments. The 1971 score was old and tired and this gave Schwartz a chance to rework the music. The revival is scheduled for a local professional theater in January, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they considered it was due to the improved score.
Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-11-04 10:44:47
It's been improved (better, in my opinion) twice. Just my opinion.
Posted by musical3 2013-11-04 11:02:09
Hi Csmith. I more than noticed. I stood there at his keyboard as he was packing up. It wasn't like you were describing. No one "doubled but one could tell are were better at one and not the other." The band was sensible, fantastic, precise, and they rocked. The keyboard was a two synthesizers, high-end ones. The player is a jazz artist on a high level. He also sang! And the #1 guitarist who seems to be the band leader can dance and does, center stage. Back to the keyboard, he was tremendous at pop music and groove. So good, it would be worth the ticket to just see and hear him, or any one of several other cast members. I'll call him the pianist and he was infinitely enjoyable. We paid maybe $70 a ticket and sat 3rd row/ When it was over I mosied on stage and chatted with the musicians probably only because I was all in black (my own gig clothes) and have played on that stage. I felt confidant enough to say hi right there. The heart-warming pianist (or piano via a nice synthesizer) was John Yun. I'd say he was one of a sparkling cast. At one point a cast member lept off the top of the piano prop, through the air, and over top of the rest. Ya man, and they do this while singing complex arrangements. It was at once hilarious and impeccably executed. They even whomped into Gangnam style at one point!
Posted by caskey 2013-11-29 19:31:31
First national tour and they're playing today at a high school cafetorium. No commentary necessary.
Posted by PlayItAgain 2013-11-29 19:50:16
no one who invested in the broadway revival is seeing a cent from this tour.
Posted by csmithmusictheater 2013-11-29 21:53:23
Unfortunately, tours tend to book the bigger venues first, then often stick in some horrible one nighters wherever there's an opening in the schedule. The rest of their tour has some week long residencies in some nice places. Who knows what will show up in the gaps. Here's a review on this site from 11/27.
Posted by operavore 2013-11-29 23:34:10
It's not a first national tour. It has absolutely zero connection to the recent revival.