So Ned Beatty Was Rude

Ruffian
#0So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 4:21pm

I see he was rude at the Stage Door

Now...why am I not surprised?

Oh yeaaaaa..because he has no qualms about dissing his co-stars in the New York Times

Even if he doesn't like them, Gawd knows we all work with people we arent crazy about.....still...very ... crude, Ned

Watch him win the Tony, no one will applaud

LMAO

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newyorkuniq
#1re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 4:44pm

Ned Beatty is in a broadway show??? Ewww

henry
#2re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 5:11pm

Somehow I doubt he'll win the Tony. He may not even show up if he's nominated.

He's just an old curmudgeon who doesn't care if people like him or not. To be fair, both Judd and Patric WERE terrible, particularly Patric.

Ruffian
#3re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 5:14pm

I cannot STAND Judd. But still, Beatty was CRUDE.

He wont win the Tony, he is a longshot for sure...I was being flip with my Tony Remark

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Mister Matt
#4re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 5:20pm

I saw him in the London production and he was wonderful in the role. And Brendan Fraser was a surprisingly excellent Brick.


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henry
#5re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 5:40pm

In the interview where he dissed Patric and Judd, he mentioned how wonderful Fraser was in the role. Probably pissed that Brendan didn't wind up in this Broadway outing.

Still, they would have needed a Maggie.

Ruffian
#6re: re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 5:42pm

Brendan was good, I too saw the London show

Too bad he didnt make the transfer

Dollypop
#7re: re: re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 9:13pm

CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF was the perfect example of how things can go wrong when a production crosses the Atlantic. I'd seen--and loved--the play when I saw the Elizabeth Ashley-Keir Dullea-Fred Gwynn production at Stratford, CT. I heard great things about the London production and eagerly anticipated the Broadway mounting of it. However, it was a major disappointment.

Ashley Judd is lovely to look at, but her Maggie was one dimensional. Never once did I feel the ferocity of her character. She was a delightful; little girl from the begiining to the end and there was no growth or character development. I guess the poor lass missed all the closeups she needs to project a character's feelings.

Jason Patric was a little better as Brick (and I think Beatty even said that) but there was almost no tension between him and Maggie or him and Big Daddy.

I had to agree with Ned Beatty's assessment of the two actors, but it was wrong of him to say it while the play was still in production. However, it DID result in a zoom at the box office.


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#8re: re: re: re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/27/04 at 11:26pm

Poor Brendan is one of those actors that is pretty decent, but picks some HORRENDOUS movies...and you can rarely tell how good he is


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Plum
#9re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 1:01am

Well, Fraser did do Gods and Monsters, but Ian McKellen acted circles around him. Fraser's good, but he's not that good yet.

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leomaxfrank
#10re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 1:21am

oh certainly not amazing by any means, but he's a better actor than he is usually given credit for (yea, ending sentences with prepositions are FUN!!)

mckellan isn't even in the same ballpark.


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Right Said Rick
#11re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 6:32am

Yeah, he can be rude. He just ain't the same since I made him squeal like a pig.

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#12re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 10:04am

Regarding Ned Beatty's remarks: I was appalled and thrilled at the same time. Appalled that anyone would be so unsupportive of their co-stars in print but thrilled deeply inside that someone had the balls to mention the catch 22 involved- that movie stars get plays produced--but are often such mediocrities that the cause of theater isn't advanced and the star seakers are better off spending $3.50 for a copy People magazine. It reminded me of the time Sinead O'Connor ripped up a photo of the Pope. It helped no one, got her into a lot of hot water--but witnessing her rash rebellion was thrilling to the 14 year old in me .


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Ruffian
#13re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 10:23am

I dont mind if he gave the interview afterwards, thats then just good gossip, but I just cannot help but feel it was lousy during the run for him to make such remarks

I love a Rebel myself, but hardly do I consider Beatty one. More likely just a grump

LMAO

DefyingGravity2
#14re: re: re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 1:45pm

He is an angry and hateful man, filled with self loathing which he transfers into hate for others. Just because he has that problem with irritable bowels is no excuse to be shut a rude turd!

etoile
#15 So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 4:00pm

I guess I just don't see the rudeness and hatefullness. Someone truthfully gave their opinion that possibly stemmed from frustration. When you reach a certain age you tend to eliminate a lot of BS and just shoot from the hip. I admire that. People here are forever proclaiming the right to voice their opinions. Why should his opinions have been kept silent? Unfortunately his comments weren't enough to light a fire in these two co-stars.


Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.

Ruffian
#16re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 4:04pm

He certainly has every right to voice his opinion, but that shouldn't prevent others from commenting on HIS opinions....lol

Its too bad it didnt shake up JUDD (especially)

I only brought up the topic because elsewhere it was posted how rude he was to someone asking for an autograph.....I guess he is an all-around sweetheart

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JohnPopa
#17re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 4:20pm

He should have kept his opinions to himself because of this little concept called 'tact.' It's one thing to talk about a show after the fact, another to lambaste your own co-stars while in the midst of a run that you're expecting people to pay money to attend. It's common sense: you don't crap on your co-workers in front of the people who are supposed to be your audience.

It's not a question of someone's 'rights' (and can we have a moratorium on THAT word, at least until people know what the hell it means,) it's about class and respect for one's co-workers and one's audience.

etoile
#18So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 4:23pm

I find the use of the word "rude" to be on those highly subjective words based more on one's perceptions than on another's actions. What constitutes rude to one person is just no nonsense behavior to another. And I never judge someone's personality based on the veracity of a stranger's stagedoor encounter.


Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.

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JohnPopa
#19re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 4:32pm

Of course rudeness is based on perception. In a public interview, you'd expect someone to lean to the side of politeness, instead of frank, and in this case, inappropriate honesty. It wasn't the place. He knows better. And so do you.

etoile
#20So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 5:28pm

I find tact to be highly overrated. I find it refreshing that someone wasn't so worried about coddling feelings or offending other's sensibilities. It would have been a damn boring interview without the comments. And when it comes to interviews, one wants to titillate. Just ask Voiceanth.


Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.

Ruffian
#21re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 5:31pm

..it would be super if only Ned got on line to discuss...LMAO

Plum
#22re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 5:59pm

Etoile- Do you really think the only way to be interesting is to be mean? That's a shame. Being polite doesn't have to mean being boring unless you're so humorless and dour that that rudeness becomes your only means of making semi-engaging conversation. And, as I said, that would be a shame for you.

etoile
#23re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 6:26pm

The lack of tact does not denote that one is mean. An honest assessment of something is not rude. Here again, people seem to feel that when they read, see, or hear something not to their liking then it's rude. Please. One person's rudeness is another's person's breath of fresh air. People may, and have, disagreed with the timing of his comments. That could always be debated, but without knowing if there was an underlying motivation for his comments who knows better than Beatty if it was the right time for him to have said something.


Rest in peace, Iflitifloat.

Plum
#24re: re: re: re: So Ned Beatty Was Rude
Posted: 4/28/04 at 7:49pm

Your previous comment seemed to say that provocation was the only way of making a good interview. As I said, I disagree there.

I don't think the content of the comments themselves was that bad, but the timing of Beatty's comments was rude- it's just not cool to insult the people you're going to be working with so closely every day for the next few months.

And I don't get your last sentence. Underlying motivation? Like what? I thought being honest (which you so admire Beatty for) meant telling the whole truth, unvarnished. If he had some ulterior motive, that kind of goes against your argument.

I think his motivation was nothing more than his frustration with having to try and respond to two not-so-good actors, and possibly jealousy that they were the ones selling tickets while he was the one actually doing a good job in the production. That motive doesn't justify what he did. I don't think he's a horrible person based on that one incident, but it was a rude thing to do. Subjectivity only goes so far for me; sorry.