The Next US President's Priorities- Page 3

[BenElliott]

Posted: 4/2/20 at 4:48pm

Actually it's all true. Joe Biden is despicable and isn't much better off than Trump. The Democratic Party has fallen far too right for me.

Tara Reade's allegation is extremely credible and Joe Biden has one of the worst records I've ever seen. Unlike you, I don't just vote for who my "club" tells me to vote for. I actually do my research.

Joe Biden IS a rapist and a segregationist. He opposed busing because he "didn't want his daughter growing up in a racial jungle."  We're not even going to mention his lack of plans or his inability to finish a complete sentence.

Updated On: 4/2/20 at 04:48 PM

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 4:10am

BenElliott said: "Actually it's all true. Joe Biden is despicable and isn't much better off than Trump. The Democratic Party has fallen far too right for me.

Tara Reade's allegation is extremely credible and Joe Biden has one of the worst records I've ever seen. Unlike you, I don't just vote for who my "club" tells me to vote for. I actually do my research.

Joe Biden IS a rapist and a segregationist. He opposed busing because he "didn't want his daughter growing up in a racial jungle." We're not even going to mention his lack of plans or his inability to finish a complete sentence."

"He's a rapist and a segregationist and if that doesn't convince you... well... ummm... uhhh... he can't even finish a complete sentence." Pretty compelling case you've laid out Benny. Kinda weird you didn't bring all this up when Biden first announced his candidacy a year ago. Biden explained his vote on busing and even if you disagree with his logic, that doesn't make him a segregationist. Anything else that can even be twisted to imply he's a segregationist that's more current than 45 years ago?

Reade's accusations should certainly be investigated but there are a crap ton of red flags and her story has changed over time. If you want an objective, sober analysis of the validity of her accusation, Salon just published on Tuesday a pretty detailed analysis. You should read it... but I doubt you will.

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/31/a-woman-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault-and-all-hell-breaks-loose-online-heres-what-we-know/

I know you feel very strongly about this issue, so I will look forward to your next post expressing outrage over the widespread sexual harassment that took place during Bernie Sander's 2016 campaign. Bernie didn't even take responsibility let alone apologize for that until he decided to run again in 2019 and even then it was half hearted with him saying he was busy campaigning so how could he be expected to know. Would love your thoughts on this.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/10/bernie-sanders-apologizes-for-sexual-harassment-in-2016-campaign.html

[BenElliott]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 10:19am

I've had these issues with Biden since he first announced. I've always found him to be unelectable and he's far too conservative to get my vote.

His voting record shows what kind of man he is and him hiring Harvey Weinstein's damage control advisor is a pretty massive red flag for me as well.

And Bernie didn't assault anyone and he did actually take measures to make his workplace safer. Why anyone would be extremely anti-Bernie is beyond me. He's trying to help people and that seems to make people furious for some bizarre reason.

What's Joe Biden trying to do for people? He can't finish a sentence, he has no solid plans, he's openly said to rich donors that nothing will change under him, he's openly said he has no empathy for students drowning in debt, he's taken money connected to insurance companies, his health care "plan" leaves 6.6 million people uninsured, he has at least 8 assault allegations against him, and he has the voting record of an extremely conservative Republican. What is there to like about him?

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 11:38am

BenElliott said: "Unlike you, I don't just vote for who my "club" tells me to vote for. I actually do my research."

 

You know nothing about me or how I vote.  On the other hand, I know that you are here solely to spread filthy lies about a good man.

[BenElliott]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 4:38pm

Highland Guy said: "BenElliott said: "Unlike you, I don't just vote for who my "club" tells me to vote for. I actually do my research."



You knownothingabout me or how I vote. On the other hand, I know that you are here solely to spread filthy lies about a good man."

Don't call them lies when a quick Google search will show you otherwise.  He is definitely not a good man.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 4:46pm

That's super but Bernie isn't going to be the President. Not this year, or any year. Sorry to burst your BernieBro bubble, bro. 

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 5:25pm

BenElliott said: "Highland Guy said: "BenElliott said: "Unlike you, I don't just vote for who my "club" tells me to vote for. I actually do my research."



You knownothingabout me or how I vote. On the other hand, I know that you are here solely to spread filthy lies about a good man."

Don't call them lies when a quick Google search will show you otherwise. He is definitely not a good man."

 

I didn't say you were here solely to spread lies about a good man.  I said you were here solely to spread filthy lies about a good man.

[BenElliott]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 6:49pm

Well they're filthy truths and I also think it's misogynistic to call Bernie supporters "Berniebros" when a massive part of his supporters are women, specifically women of color. Centrist dems are showing their true colors in throwing their support behind a racist rapist. Biden supporters are just the blue MAGA. Return American to decency = Make America Great Again.

And Biden will never be president.  Trump will be getting a second term.

Updated On: 4/3/20 at 06:49 PM

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 6:58pm

Sutton Ross said: "That's super but Bernie isn't going to be the President. Not this year, or any year. Sorry to burst your BernieBro bubble, bro."

WoC here that supports Bernie.  Guess that makes me a Berniebro.  I'm a #NeverBiden.  The Democratic party is kidding themselves if they think they'll get me to vote for my oppressor.  Biden is not a good man.  His history shows that he's a very bad man.  He forced his hand inside Tara Reade and he did say that he didn't want his daughter growing up in a racial jungle when he opposed busing.  Those are facts.  You can call them lies all you want, but they are facts.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 7:18pm

Yes, BernieBros can be anyone in the world. Sadly, they threaten or mock anyone who doesn't support him. An African American man was told he would be murdered if he did not vote for him. They are similar to Trump supporters, in my opinion. Bernie isn't the candidate though, I guess some people don't get that.  

I am not the poster who said anything about Tara, and I said nothing about anyone lying. I do not have enough information regarding that situation to comment on it. 

Updated On: 4/3/20 at 07:18 PM

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 7:25pm

Most Bernie supporters are normal people who just think all people should have healthcare and free education. All candidates have their extremely toxic supporters. The media has created this idea that Bernie's supporters are like Trump supporters which is ridiculous. Trump's supporters are passionate about racism. Bernie's supporters are passionate about healthcare. There's no logical way to compare them and it's ridiculous to try. It's gaslighting and it's unacceptable.

I suggest you educate yourself on Tara Reade. The situation should disqualify Biden from the race.

Also Joe Biden is not the candidate either.  No one is yet.

Updated On: 4/3/20 at 07:25 PM

[Pose2]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 7:58pm

Sanders is done, open your eyes. 

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 8:14pm

Joe Biden is done too. He won't beat Trump in November.

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 4/3/20 at 9:38pm

BenElliott said: "Well they're filthy truths and I also think it's misogynistic to call Bernie supporters "Berniebros" when a massive part of his supporters are women, specifically women of color. Centrist dems are showing their true colors in throwing their support behind a racist rapist. Biden supporters are just the blue MAGA. Return American to decency = Make America Great Again.

And Biden will never be president. Trump will be getting a second term."

You know what i love about you hard core Bernie supporters, you spew this ridiculous, unfounded rhetoric about whoever his opponent is at the time and when people don't buy it, you think you are making the argument more compelling by just repeating the same thing but SHOUTING LOUDER. He's a racist? Do you honestly expect anyone to believe the first black president of the United States knowingly selected a racist as his running mate? His next in command? His right hand person and chief confidant?

That's the problem with you "guys". When you don't get your way, you just unleach a barrage of nonsensical accusations and put downs, stating them as proven facts, hoping some of it, any of it will gain some traction, when in reality, it just makes you seem even more ridiculous and even more desperate. Sanders is done. You can accept that or not. You can help re-elect Trump out of spite or prevent that from happening. I'm sure you'll make the wrong decision

Are far as the term Berniebros being misogynistic is concerned, if you tell me you've never entered a room with both men and women and said "hey guys" or 'where do you guys want to go for lunch", I'll tell you you're full of it.

Updated On: 4/3/20 at 09:38 PM

[Georgeanddot2]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 12:24am

Your argument for Biden not being racist is basically "I'm not racist. I have black friends."

Obama chose Biden because Biden brought the more conservative vote. Let's not forget that Obama was initially considered to be progressive.

And if it feels like we're repeating ourselves, it's because you're clearly refusing to absorb the facts that we're giving you. The deep issues that this country has are all because of politicians like Joe Biden. Take a look at his voting history. We're giving you facts. He voted against busing, he opposed gay marriage even up to when Obama had chosen him as his VP, he helped create the bankruptcy bill, he supported the war, he's voted pro-life his entire life, he doesn't support the green new deal, and his health insurance plans leaves millions uninsured. His campaign is also funded by billionaires. The whole point of him being in the race is to protect billionaires from Bernie Sanders. It's absurd.

[BenElliott]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 12:33am

UncleCharlie said: "That's the problem with you "guys". When you don't get your way, you just unleach a barrage of nonsensical accusations and put downs, stating them as proven facts,hoping some of it, any of it will gain some traction, when in reality, it just makes you seem even moreridiculous and even more desperate."

They're not accusations.  They're facts.  Just take look at how he's voted in the past.  We keep repeating ourselves because talking to Biden supporters is talking to a brick wall. We're giving you facts and you're not listening and claiming that they're lies. Biden is the one with a lying issue. He makes up stories, claims he didn't say things that he's caught on video saying, and claims he didn't write bills that he did write.

I'm not a Democrat and I don't owe that party my vote especially since it's become the party of the hypocritical white liberals with their performative wokeness.

 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:24am

" Are far as the term Berniebros being misogynistic is concerned, if you tell me you've never entered a room with both men and women and said "hey guys" or 'where do you guys want to go for lunch", I'll tell you you're full of it. "

You are exactly correct and heck I have even heard my wife say it. It is just term we have all thrown around and I believe nobody means any offense by it.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:37am

" You just posted it very late last night. People are still probably gettting over the shock of you saying something kind about a Democrat. But it was nice for just a brief moment to think back to a time when we has a classy president we could be proud of and not some nasty, profane piece of garbage who probably would have commented instead to her son about how she wasn't a 10 and he would never screw her. So THANK YOU for that pleasant trip down memory lane. "

Your welcome, I enjoyed sharing a nice story especially in these times. Nobody has responded to the post days later but it was nice of you to do it here. I believe over the years I have said more than one nice thing about a Democrat but not going to argue with you on that point - lol. Stay safe.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:59am

" Yankeefan, you are on a theater message board so 99% of the people will be Liberal Democrats, that's just the truth. I used to be very intolerant to Republicans, and shut them down immediately. I realized that was wrong and ignorant of me, so I always take the time to hear them out. Always. I have been on quite a journey these past four years to figure out the reasons why people voted for 45 because I could not understand at first."

You are right that it is 99% liberal Democrats and I am aware of those numbers. On occasion, I express my political point of view and I know it will not be liked, no problem with that happening. In the world of sports, teams have road games and that is what it is like for me to post political things on this board -lol. The one difference is I don't get into name calling someone because they don't agree with me. I don't say stuff like Bernie supporters for example are f***ing idiots. I truly believe the 2016 election was all about Hillary and if Biden had run in 2016 he would have easily beat Trump.

"I visited my extended family for the first time in many years in 2018. It was a family reunion and it was held in Kansas. I was raised and still live in the North East. It freaked me out to believe that I could be related to people that voted for him, who support him still. They are polite, lovely, hard working people. They refuse to talk about religion or politics, but the one thing my cousin said to me was "We don't like the way he treats people, but as long as I can put food on my table at the end of the day, that is all that matters". I finally got it and stopped thinking about it for quite some time. I respected their answer and realized that for millions of people, that is all they care about. These are simple people, and that's okay. "

My brother in-law is a lawyer and as liberal as it gets, he was born in RI and his parents were pretty wealthy. We have gotten along very well (even with him being a Red Sox fan) because we rarely have talked politics. We both have a love of travel, photography, music and family etc which gives us plenty to talk about to each other. While he does not like the NY Yankees, he does know his baseball and will admit certain Yankee players were great. Your point about your family comment about being concerned with "putting food on the table" kind of reminds me of President Clinton. How many people did not like the oral sex in the Oval Office with intern but he did good job with economy so who cares about the personal stuff.

"Trump is a rapist. Trump is a racist. Trump hates everyone including himself. He throws tantrums and it not mentally fit to be in charge of 4th grade recess. His voters knows these things, they just do not care. As frustrating as that can be for people who truly DO care about them, not everyone is going to think like me or have my priorities. But, defending him on here will get you nowhere, and it's like screaming into a brick wall. But, if you want to continue wasting your time, to each their own. "

Excellent point and I should probably take your advice.

Updated On: 4/4/20 at 09:59 AM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 2:40pm

Back on topic.

When President Joe Biden takes office in January, one of his first priorities must be to fire all individuals in the previous administration who were responsible for relieving Captain Brett Crozier of command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt.  The first out the door should be Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly.  

Captain Crozier spoke the truth.  He is a hero who placed his sailors above all else.  He was more than deserving of this heartfelt send-off by his crew.

 

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 8:42pm

Georgeanddot2 said: "Your argument for Biden not being racist is basically "I'm not racist. I have black friends."

Obama chose Biden because Biden brought the more conservative vote. Let's not forget that Obama was initially considered to be progressive.

You think being the running mate to the country's first black president is the I have black friends argument? ROTFLMAO. You think Biden is your "oppressor"? I can't remember whether you're half Vietnamese and half Black or half Black and half Lobster or whatever. It always seemed to be changing. Regardless, Biden's utter domination of the black vote and their obvious and complete trust in him along with high profile, full throated endorsements from people like James Clyburn, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Deval Patrick would seem to place your view of him as racist and an oppressor as an extreme outlier.(Shocker) You claimed Biden is a rapist and "that's a fact" which is ridiculous unless you were there and personally saw it happen. You do the same thing with every other accusation, claiming it's a fact because you said it. Listen, under your old account, for years you posted some of the most ridiculous comments and opinions of anyone on the board about shows, producers and theater in general. You derailed more threads with your nonsense and picked more pointless fights than any other 5 board members combined. There are plenty of people on this board I disagree with and enjoy going back and forth with, but in your case, you've proven to be so far out in your own little world and I have so little regard for your opinion about anything, I'm not wasting my time with you. You'll notice I hadn't responded to anything you said until you responded to my comment to someone else. You're simply not worth the time.

Updated On: 4/5/20 at 08:42 PM

[UncleCharlie]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 9:12pm

BenElliott said: "They're not accusations. They're facts. Just take look at how he's voted in the past. We keep repeating ourselves because talking to Biden supporters is talking to a brick wall. We're giving you facts and you're not listening and claiming that they're lies. Biden is the one with a lying issue. He makes up stories, claims he didn't say things that he's caught on video saying, and claims he didn't write bills that he didwrite.

I'm not a Democrat and I don't owe that party my vote especially since it's become the party of the hypocritical white liberals with their performative wokeness."

You twist and distort and mislead and mischaracterize and you have the gall to call them facts? Case in point. Your comment "His voting record shows what kind of man he is and him hiring Harvey Weinstein's damage control advisor is a pretty massive red flag for me as well." is a perfect example. The woman in question is Anita Dunn. Do you know who she is? Do you know anything about her? She's been advising Democratic presidents, presidential candidates and their staffs and various senators for over 40 years. Her first job was helping President Carter's Chief of Staff Hamilton Jordan. You know what other presidential candidates she has worked for and advised before Biden? Al Gore in 2000 and a guy named Barack Obama in both 2008 and 2012. She served under Obama as Acting Communications Director in 2009. Biden has worked with her extensively for years and no doubt trusts her implicitly. She's one of the best in the business and a seasoned veteran at advising Democratic presidential campaigns. That's why she was hired. But because as a favor to a long time friend, she gave some free advice to Weinstein's lawyers for about 5 minutes, you're trying to paint Biden as unseemly for hiring her. That's the level of distortion and misrepresentation people like you engage in and then you have the nerve to try to claim them as facts? 

If you think helping Trump get another 4 years is more in your interests than voting for Biden, you're nuts. But that's the kind of blind extremism, inability to compromise and see the big picture and the "if I don't get my way, I don't care if we all die" mentality that has earned BernieBros the well-deserved reputation they have. By your own admission, you're not even a Democrat so there is no reason the Democratic party should give even the tiniest of sh*ts who you think their candidate for president should be. We're the Blue MAGA? LOL. GTFO.

Updated On: 4/5/20 at 09:12 PM

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/4/20 at 10:17pm

BenElliott said: "I'm not a Democrat and I don't owe that party my vote especially since it's become the party of the hypocritical white liberals with their performative wokeness."'

 

So, who are you, BenElliott?  This one, who claims that you are not a Democrat.  Or the BenElliott who, on March 11 in the "Who You Like 2020" thread said that you are "100% Bernie".  Which liar are you?  Or are you just a troll who can't keep your various personas straight?

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/5/20 at 9:13am

Never mind

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 4/7/20 at 5:30pm

An update to the disgraceful relieving of command of USS Theodore Roosevelt Captain Brett Crozier by Acting Navy Secretary Modly.

Following this incident, Modly flew 8,000 miles to Guam to address the sailors of the ship.  He called Crozier "either naive or stupid".  He said this to the men and women who gave Crozier a hero's send-off.  This story gained immediate negative attention.  Modly has now "resigned". 

I am one happy former sailor to see this slug Modly kicked out of his position.

Updated On: 4/7/20 at 05:30 PM