How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?

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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#26
Posted: 5/3/09 at 2:13am
My high school did it last year, and everyone loved it.

We had a large platform that was flat for most of the show, and then slowly throughout act two it got steeper and steeper. Then during 'The Blame' we closed a curtain in front of the platform and placed sawhorses under it to make it quite steep and sturdy, and put black wooden pieces fit to the shape of the gap that was created in front.

A little lame, but you do what you have to do.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#27
Posted: 5/3/09 at 3:19am
Wait, was the movie story based off the musical? I always thought the show came after.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#28
Posted: 5/3/09 at 3:36am
How about a Titanic Musical the movie?
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#29
Posted: 5/3/09 at 4:04am
When I saw the show on Broadway I laughed (as many did in the mezz, where I was sitting) when the little boat came out. It was really, really cheesy.

Half of the score was decent, half was a mess IMHO. And the book paper thing. Not a show I'd rush back to, but it does have its followers.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#30
Posted: 5/3/09 at 4:10am
WAAAAYYY BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2005, I started an "Appreciation" thread on TITANIC THE MUSICAL where fortunately, many BroadwayWorld members shared their first memories and experiences of this INCREDIBLE show.

Check it out:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.cfm?thread=868946

There are also 2 existing (ahem-bootleg-ahem) videos of this show from Broadway and San Diego Tour (don't PM me about them) that provide a GREAT visual of just how the ship sank (the stage tilted)
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#31
Posted: 5/3/09 at 4:54am
Did the small boat looked like the one in Phantom?

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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#32
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:01am
The musical is based on the actual incident. The movie is fiction that uses the basic story as a backdrop to made up characters (Rose & Jack). I don't know that there was a Titanic backlash as much as there was so much audience confusion that the musical didn't mention Rose or Jack and didn't include "My Heart Will Go On."
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#33
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:07am
When our director mentioned we might do this, one girl said "I call being Rose" and another said "I hate Celine Dion, so I won't try out"
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#34
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:09am
By not recouping its investment
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#35
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:35am
I once sat in on local auditions for a Regional production of the show and some 16 year old girl came in, sang "my heart will go on", and did one of Gloria Stewart's monologues from the movie. It was a laugh.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#36
Posted: 5/3/09 at 11:27am
I absolutely love this show, but I never got a chance to see it on Broadway.

But my community theatre did put this one, and I was cast as Officer Lighttoller. It's one of the best productions I have ever been in because the cast got so close.

As for the sinking - we had a large flat that was about 6 feet tall that ran the width of the stage. It was painted black with portholes and whatnot, and had two large sliding doors in the middle to come in and out of. Most of the Officer scenes were on top of the flat, and a lot of the others were in front of it. We had a hydraulic lift on the stage right side of it so throughout the second act, we had it increasingly lift up. And at the end of the sinking, we had a black curtain rise from the floor and meet another curtain lowered down.

The budget for this show doesn't have to be huge - it can be very simple or very elaborate. I think that somewhere in the middle is probably perfect.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#37
Posted: 5/3/09 at 11:47am
Ehh, I'm very mixed about Titanic. It was my senior show, and a big dissapointment to many of us. Personally while I do enjoy most of the score, there are some not so good songs within it. I really think the music is a little difficult for high schools to be attempting, especially with many of the male roles needing to sing at least an F or G.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#38
Posted: 5/3/09 at 3:09pm
is there a video anywhere?
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#39
Posted: 5/3/09 at 3:16pm
The boat was like a model you'd buy in a store.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#40
Posted: 5/3/09 at 3:30pm
Except that it lit up. Most of the models you can buy in a store don't light up. That feature is saved for much more expensive models.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#41
Posted: 5/3/09 at 4:41pm
HAH! You're so right.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#42
Posted: 5/3/09 at 7:39pm
If you go to Google Video and type in Titanic a new musical you will get a bunch of legit clips form the Dutch Tour which is very similar to the Broadway version. You'll see the ship tilting and the piano slide too.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#43
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:18pm
In both the Dutch touring, and the German sit down in Hamburg, the little boat that moves across the stage at the end act 1 was...thankfully....cut. I am not sure if the sound effect of ice scratching against the hull was in the Broadway production ( cannot remember). But act 1 in the German production I saw ended with a black curtain/scrim with stars coming down during the final strains of the music..the music swelling with the sounds of ice ripping a hole in the ship under it. It was a nice effect, and from what I remember much better than a toy ship being pulled across the stage.

The sinking itself was similar BUT at least in the German production, there were some actors who jumped from the ship during the chaos. You could see them climbing up on the back railing, with others trying to stop them...and then jumping off (kinda like when Raoul jumps into the lake in Phantom). It looked cool.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#44
Posted: 5/3/09 at 9:21pm
Tsao - When I saw it, I do recall a sound effect (Broadway mounting)
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#45
Posted: 5/4/09 at 5:47am
We were very disappointed with the sets for TITANIC! We travelled from the UK especially to see the show and already loved the music (big Maury Yeston fans)so were really looking forward to seeing the staging. Unfortunately we went to FORBIDDEN BROADWAY the previous evening and they had several TITANIC moments including SHIP OF AIR (instead of SHIP OF DREAMS) and "BOTTOM, SHALL WE ALL MEET ON THE BOTTOM (instead of AUTUMN!).

Ship of Air was hillarious as the cast made fun of the fact that there is no ship for the opening boarding scene but rather the audience is in the space the ship should be and the cast are imagining they are looking at the ship. When we then saw TITANIC the joke really hit home.

Many of the backdrops looked very stylized and rather home made. The small ship was a real mistake. We were sitting dead centre orchestra and when the ship appeared there was an intake of breath from the audience as they expected something wonderful and you could hear the gasp then an "aw" of disappointment as this little toy chugged along the stage. It sent us all to the bar laughing.

We still loved the show as the music and performances transcended the staging. IMO you don't go to the theatre to see the sets but when they are fantastic it does add to the enjoyment. Titanic's staging is best forgotten.


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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#46
Posted: 5/4/09 at 8:05am
"There are also 2 existing (ahem-bootleg-ahem) videos of this show from Broadway and San Diego Tour"

Oh yeah i have both of them lol

I did however get to see it just before it closed in NY and have to say i walked away with very mixed feelings.

The staging of the show for the most part was great. The sinking was OK but it bugged me that the actors on the upper level when the ship was tilted did not slide down and just hung on, I know on the touring version they did (though the tour did not have the multi level ship for the scene and that impacted the tour.

I thought many of the flats they used on Broadway were a mess and made it look cheap but the multi leval more than made up for it.

The score was ok but had many songs that i found myself checking my watch. I loved the opening song, Ladies Maid, Andrews Vision, To The Lifeboats, Still etc but many were dire.

The cast were wondeful but they did not really have any characters to play, so many characters were used that little time was given to each. I really wanted to feel more for Mr and Mrs Strouse during Still but didnt.

The little boat at the end of Act 1 i thought was dreadful and made it feel like a parody of titanic.

It was always going to be a tough one to put on stage, and this is probably the best they could have done with it.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#47
Posted: 5/4/09 at 9:08am
God, I despised this show. A huge lumbering bore.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#48
Posted: 5/4/09 at 9:38am
high school kids are OBSESSED with Titanic and they love doing the show. It makes them feel like Leo or Kate.

...Those characters aren't in the musical. Either high school students are very dumb, or you're mistaken when you assume that. I'm going to have to agree with Dame. This show is painful and boring.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#49
Posted: 5/4/09 at 9:48am
singtopher: Did she get a part in the show? Lol.
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re: How did the Titanic sink on Broadway?#50
Posted: 5/4/09 at 10:16am
I remember seeing this show with my father. We were both quite pleasantly surprised with it and the ship at the end of Act I was quite effective. I remember the gasp from the audience as the tableau was revealed an there were no "aw"s or laughter, just silence. The starry sky meeting the glassy water to create the horizon perspective was quite brilliant. From where we sat, it looked great, but I guess people wanted a larger representation or something. I'm not sure there would have been anything that would have pleased everyone, just as is the case with every show.

I think it is one of the best Broadway scores in the last 20 years and the ensemble was the best I've heard in any Broadway show. The musical direction and the orchestrations were perfection. Even when the entire cast was singing, you could understand every last syllable and the subtle nuances in the musical direction (some of which do not appear in the Broadway cast recording, but do in the Dutch recording) enhanced the score greatly.

Unfortunately, since the film was released soon after the musical opened, the public was over saturated with all things Titanic and I think the general public probably believed they were somehow connected and I do agree that a stage version of the film would have been much more ridiculous. I always thought it was a shame the film couldn't have fallen more in line with the musical rather than focusing on a silly fictional love affair that happens to take place aboard the Titanic rather than featuring the numerous fascinating true stories that already existed on the ship.
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