Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?- Page 2
Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
BillFinn
Broadway Star Joined: 10/26/03
#25re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 8:05am
"That's How You Know" is all about the music. The chorus repeats a lot, with the music escalating and adding instruments each time. The verses are sparse. It takes you minutes to get to them.
That being said, without the big production aspect, it would have looked strange alone on stage. There's not enough imagery, right after the other and the music doesn't change quick enough as well. "Happy Working Song" has quick changes, both musically and image wise.
Bill Finn rocks. Woot.
#26re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 1:02pmof COURSE he wants a Tony, and who can blame him, after his career?
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
#27re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 4:23pmI WANTED HIM TO WIN SO BAD!
Hunter: Your teeth need whitening./ Heidi: You sound weird./ Jeff: You taste funny.
-Jeff Bowen's worst onstage line flub.
-Jeff Bowen's worst onstage line flub.
#28re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 4:23pmoops...double post!
Hunter: Your teeth need whitening./ Heidi: You sound weird./ Jeff: You taste funny.
-Jeff Bowen's worst onstage line flub.
Updated On: 2/25/08 at 04:23 PM
-Jeff Bowen's worst onstage line flub.
missyrose87
Stand-by Joined: 2/4/06
#29re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 4:28pmhow do you know he stormed out of the tonys? is there video footage of it somewhere?
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#30re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 6:01pm
You have to feel for him
In addition to not winning with Wicked, he now has a 60/40 chance of an oscar & still winds up with nothing.
He is the Rodney Dangerfield of composers. He has his bundles of money to console him.
Poster Emeritus
#31re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 8:03pm
hahahaha schwartz leaving the tonys = classically hilarious!!! i almost died of laughter. what a diva ahahahaha (diva NOT in the fierce/amazing/fantastic sense, diva in the bad sense). or should i say baby, he is a baby ahaha
well, falling slowly deserved to win! just like the tonys - wicked did not even deserve to be nominated let alone win best score (thank god it didnt). enchanted was a good movie, but not best original song worthy.
wouldnt it have been amazing if sondheim was nominated for best original score for sweeney last night? he did have to change a few things from the musical, therefore it deserved to be nominated! hahahahahhaaha that would have been FANTASTIC hahahahahahaha
#32re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 8:29pmI happened to be on an elevator once with Schwartz when he mentioned the Tony loss to some friends in conversation. There was some bitterness, certainly. But it's still hard for me to picture him "storming out".
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
#33re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/25/08 at 10:46pmYeah, I'm sure he storms his pay to the bank to deposit all the royalty checks from Wicked's world domination!! Avenue Q can't claim the worldwide business like Wicked so maybe that's his consolation prize. I'm Rich..B@TCH, lol!
I'm not gonna hate you in the magazines,
(I'm better than that)
I'm not gonna compromise my Christianity,
(I'm better than that)
You know I'm not gonna diss you on the Internet
Cause my momma taught me better than that.
Flaunt It
Broadway Star Joined: 10/26/05
#34re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 2:46am
Other things the have had "world domination: at one point:
Britney Spears
Madonna
Mamma Mia
Spice Girls
Ricky Martin
England
"Did they have brains or talent? Don't make me laugh! They were popular. Its all about popular!"
#35re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 9:54am
"A little brains, a little talent...with the emphasis on the latter!"
May I just counter with:
Meadowlark
Corner of the Sky
the lyrics of Out There
the vamp (at least) of Magic To Do
the pianistic arrangement of All Good Gifts
the contrapuntal work (musically and lyrically) of the GODSPELL prologue
It's not all a green witch and a pink fairy....
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
Flaunt It
Broadway Star Joined: 10/26/05
#36re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:07amWith Stephen Schwartz it is ALL about the fairies!
#37re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:10am
Flaunt It, did you actually see Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he didn't win? Were you there?
How do you know that this happened?
Flaunt It
Broadway Star Joined: 10/26/05
#38re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:12am
"Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?"
This was a question. I never said he stormed out of the Oscars.
#39re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:15am
Oh, yes, I realize it was a question. I'm just wondering why you would think that he would do that?
It would be like saying....Did Julie Christie storm out of the Oscars after she lost? Did Viggo Mortenson storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Flaunt It
Broadway Star Joined: 10/26/05
#40re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:39am
As stated in my very first post
"Like he did at the TONYS when Avenue Q was clobbering WICKED?"
So I am basing my question on his previous history of doing such things.
#41re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:42am
there is a certain elfin quality about him...but I maintain the guy can write some melodic hooks and handle some lyrics...maybe a bit "twee" for some, but of great interest to others. GODSPELL has not survived and flourished on the strength of the improv'd book scenes....
and for pure musical theatre magic, try his "Since I Gave My Heart Away" from GEPPETTO....both the music and the lyrics. A quiet little masterpiece. He's at his best (IMHO) when writing about parents and children.
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
Updated On: 2/26/08 at 11:42 AM
#42re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 11:49amSchwartz has since apoligized for his behavior at the Tonys. I don't think he would mind as much about the Oscars - he's already won several times. I do think there's some anger about CONSTANTLY being snubbed by the Tonys.
Madame Morrible: "So you take the chicken, now it must be a white chicken. The corpse can be any color. And that is the spell for lost luggage!" - The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken
#43re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 2:01pm
I doubt there would be so much disdain for Schwartz had he not written the score to a Broadway blockbuster. Didn't hear many complaints about him before Wicked opened. As a matter of fact, I've seen numerous requests begging for a revival of Pippin. I find it interesting that the moment someone writes a score for a large-scale spectacle, which ends up becoming an international hit, they are instantly reviled and condemned as a hack.
While I'm not a fan of all his music, I do love many of his songs and recognize his talent as well as the fact that many of his songs have become classics in the canon of American musical theatre.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
PUPPETMAN
Understudy Joined: 12/28/07
#44re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 3:46pm
"certain elfen quality" The man is a troll. Back before he wrote a full show, he was acting as musical consultant for a show at the local professional theater. I was in the resident company, performing shows in the schools during the day and understudying the main stage shows at night. We would be in the middle of rehearsals for a show and he would come in and demand that we leave the rehearsal hall so he could use the piano. He was so obnoxious and would literally throw tantrams, that we usually gave in and would go outin the hall to rehearse.
So I can really picture him storming out of both the Tonys and Oscars.
Understudy Joined: 12/31/69
#45re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 3:55pmThat song that won? The Iraish Crap? Sucked ass.
#46re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 3:56pmwow, you knew him before college (he wrote GODSPELL just after undergrad, right?). How old are you, PUPPETMAN? are you still acting? that's cool!
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
Leading Actor Joined: 12/31/69
#47re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 4:07pmAnd didn't he write Pippin while in college? I am trying to picture a troll-like college student who managed to terrorize a whole cast into leaving so he could use the piano.
#48re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 4:12pmaccording to some Q and A's, he had a version of PIPPIN (then titled something else) working while he was in college, but didn't finish it until later. The other underrated score of his is RAGS, which has some lovely stuff in it. It's kind of hard to picture a college that had such an arts program, yet no practice rooms with available pianos...still, I can recall how fast those practice rooms got booked by the "serious" musicians.
just keep swimming along, don't rise to the....
PUPPETMAN
Understudy Joined: 12/28/07
#49re: Did Schwartz storm out of the Oscars after he lost?
Posted: 2/26/08 at 4:35pm
It was not a college, but a full time legitimate theater which did not have a lot of rehearsal spaces.
This was back in the early '70s and he was not that well known then.He was only a consultant and not the composer of the show.
Our group was not considered as important as the main stage shows so we were at a disadvantage when it came to demands from the main stage people.
No matter what anyone thinks this did happen.
