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gypsy4
#1WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 11:49am

went to the actors fund performance of wicked on sunday Love it! the cast was amazing but the thing that needs alot of working on is winnie holzmans Book she opened up doors in the script but never closed them and I wish elphebas and glindas friendship could have been stronger! but over all it was phenomenal.
Updated On: 6/30/09 at 11:49 AM

yeah
#2re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 4:40pm

Let the mud-slinging begin...

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CSonBroadway
#2re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 4:40pm

YAAYAYAYYAYAYYAYAYAAYYAAYYYAYYAAYAYYAYAYYAA



hell nawh.


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AndAllThatJazz22
#3re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 4:41pm

Could you retype that with correct grammar so I can understand you? You sound like you have some interesting things to say... I just can't understand them.


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#4re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 4:55pm

The book does unfortunately need a lot of work, but it probably won't ever get the fix that it needs. I'm sure the producers are more than happy with it the way it is -- having made them so much money and all. Artistic integrity doesn't matter at this point.
Updated On: 6/30/09 at 04:55 PM

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#5re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 4:59pm

Welcome to 2004, gypsy!

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defyingravity07
#6re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 5:01pm

What sucks even more is that Holzman is writing the screenplay for the movie.

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Mister Matt
#7re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 5:03pm

punctuation and capitalization Is so overrated but i'm glad we Could finally discuss something new i mean really!


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#8re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 7:37pm

...and it's the pelvic thrust, that really drives you insane.
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bwayguy22089
#9re: WICKED!
Posted: 6/30/09 at 11:46pm

The book for Wicked is much, much better than the book for The Wiz lol... that's for sure.

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Justin D
#10re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 8:20am

can you point out for me the plot holes and those "opened doors"

I;ve often heard of references to such but I guess I've never sat down and poured over the script to find them and I am interested to know what people are referring to


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millie_dillmount
#11re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 8:26am

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#12re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 8:32am

simple question really, i just dont see plot holes unless they are really big, i guess i dont really focus on that. SO i just wanted to sear some of them from other people's point of view


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Updated On: 7/1/09 at 08:32 AM

snowskittle
#13re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 11:21am

I'd like to know this also.

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SingingCats
#14re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 11:42am

Hahaha, oh Wicked. I didn't realize they were making a movie though. Link, anyone?

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Posted: 7/1/09 at 12:08pm

well nothing was ever official, but being that Universal is a producer we all figure a movie is bound to happen. And it is unlikely they will use someone else to do the screenplay


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#16re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 2:34pm

I don't know if I would call this a plot hole, but the whole story makes no sense, in regards to "The Wizard of Oz." For example, Dorothy dreams that she went to Oz, and all the of the characters are supposed to be people she knew from Kansas. If you don't know that movie or anything about it, then you are fine, but I thought way too much about it.


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eatlasagna
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Posted: 7/1/09 at 2:57pm

yeah what are the plot holes? is it the dragon that people tend to complain about? or is it the fact that the secondary characters are really underdeveloped? i don't consider that a plothole really. i kinda like what one actor (don't know which) said about fiyero, that it's not the greatest role ever written or is it really developed, but the character does what it is supposed to do and that's develop the relationship of glinda and elphaba. does the job i think.

anyways, the only plothole i see is the fact that in one scene elphaba is supposed to be standing in the rain, right? so how the heck do people get that water melts her?

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Madcap Maisie
#18re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 3:05pm

In the scene where she is standing in the rain I think she was actually standing under a bridge. If I remember correctly.


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#19re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 3:10pm

Morrible tells her she musn't get wet, I think out of concern generally. the melting just came out of the mud slinging to discredit her. we all know that she is supposed to react to water, so it makes the morrible but amusing. And fyero remembers the rumours about water melting her from that smear campeign and use that as a way to fake her death.


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defyingravity08
#20re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 3:14pm

but the character does what it is supposed to do and that's develop the relationship of glinda and elphaba. does the job i think.

What relationship? Why are they even "best friends"? Glinda is a complete bitch. They are friends because Glinda gives her a makeover, really?

snowskittle
#21re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 3:38pm

Is there really anyone alive that's never heard of the Wizard of Oz? Anyone who might stumble into Wicked?

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Posted: 7/1/09 at 4:20pm

Dorothy only dreams she goes to Oz in the movie. In Baum's book Oz is an actual place. The slippers are silver in Baum's book as they are in Wicked, they only become red when the heat from the spell makes red hot.
The entire song about how she has one eye that stays awake when she sleeps and that water can melt her is pretty much taken from Baums description of the witch in his book (she is not green BTW).
Wicked is sort of a mixture of what we know from the movie and from the original book. In Baum's book Dorothy doesn't accidently hit the witch with water trying to put the scarecrow out, she does it intentionally. The Lion, Scarecrow and Tinman aren't even there.
This is where the ending of Wicked comes from. We don't see the Tinman Lion or Scarecrow when Dorothy's sillouette throws the bucket of water at the witch and she melts. There is no, "Want to play ball scare crow?" and frantic "I'm burning I'm burning!"


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eatlasagna
#23re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 4:27pm

"What relationship? Why are they even "best friends"? Glinda is a complete bitch. They are friends because Glinda gives her a makeover, really? "

so basically you're saying this is no relationship? their relationship is the only strong aspect of the story... seriously... one can't really think that they become best friends because of a makeover... so i take you really don't like Wicked... unless you chose defyinggravity07 as a screen name to be ironic or you just love that one song from the show and really hate everything else about it... i'm just saying...

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defyingravity08
#24re: WICKED!
Posted: 7/1/09 at 4:31pm

I do enjoy Wicked, but I don't see WHY they have a relationship. Glinda does nothing but insult her & essentially got her sister killed. The only act of kindness is at the ballroom & it makes me feel that For Good comes out of nowhere.