Shrek Gypsy reference?
Shrek Gypsy reference?
#1Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:31am
Has anyone noticed that in "Story of my life" the line "Mammas in the mud mammas in distress" sounds like it came out of Rose's Turn? (Melody wise, but I suppose the structure of the phrase too).
Do you think it was intentional? Well I'm not sure if it would add ANYTHING to the show if it was, but It seems a bit close to be unintentional. I'm not sure.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 6/11/09 at 01:31 AM
#2re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:37amyes i'm pretty sure that was intentional. they did run all of those ad campaigns mocking other bway hits and gypsy was one of them if i'm correct?
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#2re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:40am
you are correct
plus, they reference Wicked in a different song, so I think it was probably intentional
#3re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:41am
Where is the Wicked reference?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#4re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:44amDid you watch the tony's?
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#5re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 1:44amThey reference Wicked at the end of "What's Up Duloc." It was performed at the Tony's. They also reference The Lion King and Chicago, and I'm sure there's more I can't remember right now, so it's definately intentional.
#6re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 2:10am
"Did you watch the tony's? "
No, though I did watch the Shrek performance on YouTube (among others), and I did notice this. But is this in the actual show? It's not on the recording.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
#7re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 2:11amIt's not on the recording because I guess they wanted to save some laughs for the actual performance.
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#8re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 2:25amI remember the Lion King, Gypsy and Wicked references, but what was the Chicago one?
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#9re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 2:36amThe Chicago reference is in Morning Person with the Rats.
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#10re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 2:38am
I love Morning Person and still don't get it. Was it the dancing, because I sort of remember some moves that you might be able to associate with Chicago-style dancing. Perhaps I simply forgot what I saw. Or maybe I am just tired. Or both. Can you elaborate?
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Updated On: 6/11/09 at 02:38 AM
#11re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 3:08amWhat's with the flag during "Freak Flag" on the Tonys? Was that supposed to be a Les Miz gag? I don't remember them doing that in the actual show.
#12re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 3:33amThere is a section of Morning Person that is a take off of the Rich Man's Frug from Sweet Charity. Another reference in that song is to 42nd Street, with the curtain and the tap shoes/rats.
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#13re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 3:46am
One bit of staging in Story of My Life is a reference to A Chorus Line. . .all the fairy tale characters walk downstage during a vamp, and hit individual poses.
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#14re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 5:54am
In reference to the Wicked take off:
My kids, 8 & 12, had seen Wicked the day before we endured Shrek. At the end of the Duloc song, my 8 yo turned to me, all ecxxited, and said, Mom...they stole that from Wicked....can they DO that?
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#15re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 9:14amthere's also a chorus line reference in "what's up duloc" when they say somemthing about "something something razamataz, he's trained in ballet, flamenco and jazz." it's a reference to the quick paced melody in "one." also, the way they say "jazz" is making fun of "all that jazz" in chicago.
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#16re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 10:38amSHREK ..... gotta give 'em credit, they are not afraid of reminding the audience that there are lots of better shows out there.
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#17re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 11:00amWhen they were in Seattle, during Donkey Pot Pie they referenced Chicago when the skeleton back up dancers got behind Donkey and let out the iconic "Hatcha, whoopee" whispers
#18re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 3:32pmFunny that Shrek got away with the "Gypsy" joke. Mel Brooks was forced to remove an almost-identical joke from The Producers- its presence is the sole difference in the widely-circulated "Producers Workshop/Preview Score" when compared to the finished Broadway/MTI score.
#19re: Shrek Gypsy reference?
Posted: 6/11/09 at 3:43pm
qolbinau: The Wicked reference isn't in the Cast Recording because in the actual show, it isn't heard until the Encore/Playoff of "What's Up Duloc?"
The cast recording omits the encore, though they used the encore ending for the Tonys.
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