Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
#1Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 2:55pm
I agree with her on this. Your thoughts?
http://toofab.com/2017/11/06/miley-cyrus-texas-church-massacre-shooting-white-american-man-sutherland-springs/
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Updated On: 11/7/17 at 02:55 PM
#2Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 3:29pm
I mean, call it terrorism. It looks like terrorism. It has the same - or even worse - outcome of recent ‘terrorist’ attacks.
But importantly of course we can’t suggest that all these terrorist attacks have the same motivations behind them and therefore the same fix. I assume Miley et al. are not implicitly suggesting this. What will help prevent the recent NYC attack will likely not prevent the church shooting. We can call them by the same name but the details of why they are different matter.
I wonder whether this outcry has merit or whether people do simply distinguish between attacks of different motivations and have different names for them.
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"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
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Updated On: 11/7/17 at 03:29 PM
#3Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 3:55pm
I agree. It seems terror attack are the first words you hear when something like this happens.
This was not a terror attack. At least as far as we know. I think it is very important to distinguish between terror attacks and acts of violence committed by persons not affiliated or pledged to an organization.
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UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#4Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 5:00pm
People are going to give Miley crap no matter what she says or does. They just don't like the fact that she's going to say what she wants to say, do what she wants to do and dress how she wants to dress and doesn't really care if everyone thinks it's OK. Her point in the post is a valid one and the people who think anyone talking about gun control is politicizing a tragedy yet have no problem with Trump proclaiming changes he wants to immigration policy 10 minutes after a terrorist act by an immigrant are going to call her out for her comments. Screw them Miley rocks..
henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#5Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 5:16pm
What makes something a terrorist attack is not whether the attacker is pledged to an organization or not.
Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
It can be committed by a person acting on his own or by someone who is part of a greater terror network. And it can certainly be done by people of any demographic background and people having any political agenda.
Of course if Mr. Kelley's motivation had been political than this would have been a terrorist attack.
But the fact is at this moment, as far as we know, I don't believe anyone has suggested any motivation for these murders.
Does anyone have any additional information about that?
#6Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 5:21pm
Not terrorism Henri. Just a guy having a bummer of a life and has easy access. No mystery.
Stephanatic
#7Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/7/17 at 5:42pm
Okay, so there is a definition for it so I will change my statement to between terroists attacts and what South Florida said.
However, when these things happen and the media mentions the words terror attack, I don't think most people are immediately thinking about the proper definition of terror attack. I think most people immediately think of what I described in my comment until the details come out. JMO
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henrikegerman
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/29/05
#8Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/8/17 at 12:38pm
You may be right, uncageg, that few people think about what terrorism means when they discuss terrorism.
That is a problem since the word is bandied about by people who don't understand it.
And it's a society-wide problem that most people don't understand what this word and many others bandied about constantly in the media - collusion, rigged, stop and frisk, etc. - actually mean.
The fact is that many other people attach a meaning to "terrorism" which confines ti to only certain kinds of "other" people, not to white Americans.
That, of course, wasn't your take on the word, but it's a popular one and one that needs to be combatted.
Which, I think, was a big part of Cyrus's statement, even though, for very different reasons, she also seems to misapprehend the meaning of terrorism.
#9Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/8/17 at 5:57pm
So then, I ask without snark. Was Vegas a terror attack?
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RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#10Miley Cyrus' response to the Texas Church shootings
Posted: 11/9/17 at 11:32pm
Well, you have to realize that collectively we're dumb. So, if you put out the words "Terror attack" people are just going to assume Muslim/Isis, whatever. This isn't that, obviously. So I think that somehow lessens the blow because it's a white American male doing harm to other Americans. But if you label it a "terrorist attack" you can somehow write it off as something else. Same with Vegas.
