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New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna

New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna

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#1New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 6:42pm

VBW will present the world premiere of the new musical CASANOVA. With music by composer Frank Wildhorn (Jekyll & Hyde, Dracula, Rudolf - The Last Kiss) and lyrics by Don Black (Dracula, Sunset Boulevard, Aspects of Love), the musical revolves around the life of the charismatic and influential Giacomo Casanova. A seducing, gambling swindler of the 18th century, his autobiography "Story of My Life" detailed his often stranger than fiction life of his adventurous travels of Europe mingling with royalty and luminaries of that period. Wildhorn and Black most recently collaborated on Bonnie & Clyde, for which they received a Tony Award nomination for Best Original Score. The show will debut in 2017 in Vienna.

 

Source: https://www.musicalvienna.at/de/aktuelles/84/CASANOVA

 

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#2New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 6:54pm

Best we can hope for is a recording as it will never see the light of day on Broadway like  Cyrano.


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#3New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 6:59pm

I love his score for Cyrano as well as The Count of Monte Cristo. This title seems like it has the potential for a similar sounding score which doesn't bother me in the least.

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#4New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 7:05pm

Enjoyed Count. Never heard Cyrano as never released in USA. Would get the recording here if I knew where to go for it. 

 

Bottom line is he will never have another show on Broadway again.


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#5New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 8:53pm

Between now and the end of time I think he will.

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#6New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/30/16 at 9:26pm

Doubt it


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#7New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 5:31am

Super, Frank must have knocked this one out between breakfast and lunch. Must go see. 


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#8New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 5:39am

Whenever I see Wildhorn mentioned in this forum, the first thing that comes to mind (to me at least) is the vision of critics' knives sharpening even before his work is presented onstage.  It's almost a Pavlovian reaction.  Wildhorn has to make a living, just like anyone else.  Who knows if "Casanova" will eventually make it to Broadway?  But to dismiss that possibility outright (Mr. Roxy) is premature.  


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#9New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 7:01am

Would bet the farm on it unless someone wants a guaranteed tax write off and wants to lose their entire investment.The only other way would be for aliens to come to earth and abduct all the critics and replace them with Wildhorn friendly ones.


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#10New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 2:19pm

mr roxy-the alien abduction of all critics to get a wildhorn show back on broadway has me laughing so hard i can barely write this....

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#11New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 2:23pm

Marcia Milgrom Dodge is directing the US premiere of The Count of Monte Cristo in May. I don't believe the production is aiming for Broadway but one can hope.

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#12New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 4:16pm

"Whenever I see Wildhorn mentioned in this forum, the first thing that comes to mind (to me at least) is the vision of critics' knives sharpening even before his work is presented onstage.  It's almost a Pavlovian reaction."

Just curious...has anyone with a Wildhorn-like track record ever come back to hit one out of the park?

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#13New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 4:28pm

Highly unlikely


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#14New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 4:31pm

Wildhorn has plenty of friends with deep pockets, I'm sure he'll manage another show on b'way.  And I wouldn't even be too suprised if it were in the next 5-10 years.

 

Roxy - for someone that LIKES Wildhorn, you're awfully pessimistic.  Will he ever has a hit?  That's a different question.


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#15New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 4:34pm

MichelleCraig said: "Just curious...has anyone with a Wildhorn-like track record ever come back to hit one out of the park?"

Well, Wildhorn kind of did. After the debacle of WONDERLAND everybody thought we'd never hear from him again. BONNIE AND CLYDE was not a financially successful show, but the community rallied around it as a much higher quality product and he ended up with a Tony nomination. Then he followed it up with that appalling JEKYLL revival and all was un-forgiven. 

 

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#16New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 3/31/16 at 4:41pm

Enjoyed Bonnie way more than Once . The J/ H revival was indeed incredibly horrible


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#17New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/1/16 at 3:34pm

A few things:

-Monte Cristo's production is to allow for regional productions (there is already an English language recording).

-WONDERLAND hurt Frank's fundraising theory, and given how little royalties you get from streaming today has hurt his strategy as far as I know (versus album sales); WONDERLAND's $15 mil flop made producers cut the budget back on B&C. Pierre Cossette (who passed away in '09) pumped tons of money in Pimpernel and his wife has helped produce B&C; Kathleen Raitt is another big producer of his work, who also sadly passed away in '14. 

-Jekyll & HYDE's revival was certainly trashy. I thought the vocals were phenomenal. This was, however, the Nederlander's choice for their 100th Anniversary Production. 

- Don't count Frank out. My guess is he will be back in a few years after regrouping with his European and Asian counterparts, particularly for funding and try-outs. I think WONDERLAND hurt by the amount of negative feedback people (I was guilty of this after its 2nd run in Tampa) gave, and he will use international productions as try-outs. When was the last time you could find a professional review for Cyrano in Korea over here? I think we will see Cyrano at the least - Leslie Bricusse has quite a few backers as well.

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#18New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/1/16 at 3:39pm

Hope springs eternal. I would love to see another show from him but the critics hatred for him virtually insures it will fail. Why someone would invest with that going in I do not know.


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#19New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/1/16 at 3:45pm

At this point it's still for regional rights. Something like "Casanova" (this has been around for about 10 years in the pipeline) may have been commissioned by the VWB, I'm not entirely sure for this one, and likely has little room in the American markets. "Monte Cristo," however, is a big popular title. How many people are going to produce some other notable flops - "Hands on a Hardbody"? I doubt many.

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#20New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/1/16 at 3:50pm

It is a shame his scores are not put out on cd standing alone from an actual production, He is the most prolific composer I can remember in recent days and it is a shame more of his work is not available for those who enjoy it to  be able to listen to.


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#21New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/2/16 at 9:53am

Linda Eder is rumored to release another "Retro vol 2" recording, hopefully soon. At least the music can be heard!

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#22New Wildhorn musical Casanova to debut in Vienna
Posted: 4/2/16 at 9:57am

Great news if true.


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