Chick-Fil-A is "Guilty as charged!" - Page 5

[tazber]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 1:12pm

I honestly don't know much about how these things are decided, but I'm hopeful that the Mayor wouldn't have sent that letter without checking the legality of it.

I always thought the city council had to vote on these things also.

[romantico]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 1:47pm

Does the community have a legal say if they want a certain business to open? If I wanted to open an Adult video Store in downtown Branson Missouri would the residents or Mayor have a legal say? If I wanted to open a Gay Pride store next door to the local church would I have any say in the matter?

I would guess the Mayor of Boston could make the same argument.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 1:49pm

I'm not a legal mind, which is why I asked the question. I think it would be a lot easier to keep out an Adult Video Store or a Gay Pride store than a Chick Fil A just about anywhere in this country.

[artscallion]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 1:59pm

I think the difference is that you can keep ALL adult video stores out of an area using zoning rules. But keeping SOME restaurants out while letting others in is different.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:00pm

If I wanted to open an Adult video Store in downtown Branson Missouri would the residents or Mayor have a legal say? If I wanted to open a Gay Pride store next door to the local church would I have any say in the matter?

You'd have to check the zoning laws first. And in many cases, residents do have the right to petition a new business. Usually, they have to state their cause in the petition and with the required signatures, can present their petition to the City and state their position in a public Council meeting.

[Kad]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:02pm

"Adult establishments", as others have said, are a bit different than a regular restaurant.

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:03pm

I've had mixed feelings since I heard about the mayor's response (though I was mostly glad he said it).

I feel better seeing the actual letter, which doesn't seem to contain any threats or legal langauge--just "there's no place for you in a city that doesn't believe in the discrimination you cherish."

Whether he has the power to stop them or not--or whether he should exercise that power if he does--is a different question. Certainly one I'm not prepared to weigh in on. But I like the letter.

[Kad]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:09pm

Even if the letter turns out to be nothing but symbolic, it's very good to see strong advocates in positions of power in the country.

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:27pm

CFA fights back- playing the (let's call it) "Church Card":

The leader of a Christian group today said Ald. Joe Moreno displayed hypocrisy for his decision to deny Chick-fil-A the right to open in his ward because of the chain restaurant president’s opposition to gay marriage.

“It’s hypocritical,” said David Smith, executive director of the Illinois Family Institute, which opposes gay marriage. “Here’s the alderman turning around and being intolerant and discriminatory because somebody has a different view than he does. Would he do that to a Muslim company?”

“I think what Ald. Moreno is doing is terrible,” Smith said. “He is playing partisan politics. He is pandering to a segment of his district or his ward, and he’s actually not helping his overall community by refusing to help develop that part of the ward to bring in jobs and to bring in tax revenue. It’s like cutting your nose off to spite your face, all because Mr. Cathy spouted his opinion about same-sex marriage.”
If you want a fight we ain't chikn!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:31pm

That's the other thing about this weird strain of Christian - when they give money to organizations that have no purpose except to eff up the lives of gay people, that's just them practicing "Freedom of Religion." Any objection to that is "intolerance"!

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:39pm

Well Phylis, Christian groups get persecuted mercilessly- even simple chicken stands that support Christianity. Them Muslins get to do whatever they please and you cain't say a word agin them.

[Kad]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 2:42pm

Well, that's the thing. SO many Christians believe that a fundamental part of practicing their religion is to get OTHERS to practice it, too. So anyone saying, "Um, no," is now immediately intolerant.

[EricMontreal22]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 3:34pm

I always love when these groups start whining about all the benefits and "tolerance" those darn Muslims get.

[romantico]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 3:36pm

Love the headline!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/25/rick-santorum-chick-fil-a-anti-gay/

Chick-Fil-A is getting LOTS of free press this week.

[romantico]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 3:47pm

And I love Jon Stewart!

http://www.towleroad.com/2012/07/jstewgaywatch.html

[tazber]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 4:16pm

Rumor is Cathy has been taking instructions from the Miracle Tree ala Moses and the Burning Bush.
The Miracle Tree

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:01pm

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:10pm

The retort to that is that the law against eating pork is only in the Old Testament. Then you say, well so is the Leviticus quote about man with another man. Then they say well the New Testament also has verses to support the oppression of gay people.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:12pm

Cock as in rooster?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:16pm

And my retort to those people Phyllis, is "F*CK you"

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:17pm

^ That's not very nice.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:19pm

Well neither are "Christians", so we're even. And I'm pretty sure it says the F-Word in a book I read so if they can quote a book they like, I can quote one I like. I think it was something by Stephen King...

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:23pm

LMFPRAO!!! You so silly!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:25pm

I agree with you, Jordan, but this debate has already been set up so that the Christians get to define how it's debated, so I don't see a lot of hope.

Even the whole Chick Fil A thing gets distorted. You'd be hard pressed to find a conservative or christian report on it that acts like people are up in arms because the company is "Christian" - not because they give money to anti-gay organizations.

But remember, tolerating intolerance is a must and Christians are the most persecuted people in this country.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/25/12 at 5:27pm

Well God bless 'em.