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Posted: 7/11/19 at 9:58pm
Instead of touring, they should set up a company in Vegas. That's the general vibe I'm getting on the word-of-mouth. It'll probably run for a few years, but it's weekly nut is probably on the high side. Mixed reviews and a few Tonys on their set, lighting and costumes will only hold them for so long.
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Posted: 7/11/19 at 10:10pm

ACL2006 said: "Instead of touring, they should set up a company in Vegas. That's the general vibe I'm getting on the word-of-mouth. It'll probably run for a few years, but it's weekly nut is probably on the high side. Mixed reviews and a few Tonys on their set, lighting and costumes will only hold them for so long.
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I’m surprised Cirque didn’t do this in Vegas in one of their own purpose built theatres long ago instead of attempting that Paramour mess on Broadway. It would be a great combo if done right x

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Posted: 7/11/19 at 10:24pm

ACL2006 said: "Instead of touring, they should set up a company in Vegas. That's the general vibe I'm getting on the word-of-mouth. It'll probably run for a few years, but it's weekly nut is probably on the high side. Mixed reviews and a few Tonys on their set, lighting and costumes will only hold them for so long.
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You were so right with your ATP predictions.

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Moulin Rouge Previews #379
Posted: 7/12/19 at 9:42pm

ACL2006 said: "Instead of touring, they should set up a company in Vegas. That's the general vibe I'm getting on the word-of-mouth. It'll probably run for a few years, but it's weekly nut is probably on the high side. Mixed reviews and a few Tonys on their set, lighting and costumes will only hold them for so long.
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Are the reviews really going to change all that much from Boston, especially the Times?

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Posted: 7/13/19 at 8:20am

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Moulin Rouge Previews #381
Posted: 7/15/19 at 9:49pm

Looks like I'm seeing Amber's first Santine performance on the 8th. She's also on on the 10th.

https://twitter.com/ArdolinoAmber/status/1150834755098873856 

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Posted: 7/15/19 at 10:09pm

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Looks like I'm seeing Amber's first Santine performance on the 8th. She's also on on the 10th.

https://twitter.com/ArdolinoAmber/status/1150834755098873856
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A friend of mine messaged her on Instagram and she said she’s going on for Bahiyah Hibah’s (ensemble) track, not Satine.

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Moulin Rouge Previews #383
Posted: 7/16/19 at 8:30am

I'm going Aug. 10 at 2. Do we know if she is doing Santine that day?  It doesn't impact my decision. During previews at Hello, Dolly! Gavin Creel was out early, the first Wednesday matinee, and Christian Dante White filled in and did a very good job. 

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Posted: 7/17/19 at 10:16am
Looking at the ticket schedule it looks like later in the run they will be doing a Thursday matinee. Do you think this will be a temporary thing? I’d love to have this option when I go to NY in April but don’t know if this is something they will keep long term.
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Posted: 7/17/19 at 10:30am

BwayinVan said: "Looking at the ticket schedule it looks like later in the run they will be doing a Thursday matinee. Do you think this will be a temporary thing? I’d love to have this option when I go to NY in April but don’t know if this is something they will keep long term. "

I purchased tickets for that performance as soon as they went on sale.  Gets me an extra slot for my Octoberr trip.  Now, if I could only get even a speck of interest in that show coming to the Booth (at the 10:00 performance), i’d Get a second extra slot.

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Moulin Rouge Previews #386
Posted: 7/17/19 at 10:43am

I attended this last night with my mother and we are both still on a high from it. It's the most lavish, extravagant production I have seen in years- full of eye-popping visuals and incredible vocals. 

It is a very different animal from the film, and for the most part I think the changes are smart (and, according to the article in the Times, some are simply necessary due to song rights issues). The story is streamlined where it needs to be streamlined (in, say, eliminating many of the movie's barely-defined ensemble roles) and expanded where it needs to be expanded (mostly with the Duke, or Toulouse-Lautrec). The expansion of the pop music score largely works very well- it's hard to argue that artists like Lady Gaga or Adele don't belong aside Madonna and Elton John. While many have said that the exploded jukebox style of the score is played for laughs, I found that to be largely not the case, and judging by the audience response, I am not alone. Yes, there are definitely moments where song recognition is played for laughs- in the Elephant Love Medley, for instance. But when sung sincerely, whether as a standalone moment ("Firework"Moulin Rouge Previews or in one of the production numbers, the score is taken seriously by both the performers and audience.

The production numbers in the show are all stunners- much has been said about the act 2 opener, and rightfully so. The choreography and the costumes and the vocals and the music all come together so well in so many moments, leaving you thrilled and exhilarated.  The cast, likewise, gives their all. Tveit has certainly never sounded better or been more charming, and Olivo is certainly different than Kidman's idiosyncratic performance but no less compelling. Danny Burstein turns every moment onstage into gold, and even though he leads only one number- and it is not nearly as compelling as the character's songs in the film- his presence is acutely felt throughout. 

Where the adaptation fails is unfortunately a major misstep and a major moment: the ending. The show within the show barely registers and is more subdued and small than all that came before it. Whereas the incomprehensible Bollywood show in the film was a spectacle on top of a spectacle featuring a moment for basically every character, the musical just offers up... a snippet of a melodrama scene in front of a painted backdrop, a snippet of "Your Song," and then Satine's death. The Duke was already dispatched in a brief scene before this sequence, told off by Satine and left to stomp away. It's so oddly small and untheatrical for a show that had, until that point, been huge and heightened. Where is the lavish production, the moment of triumph for all the denizens of the club? Where is Christian being reminded of his ideals by Lautrec? Where is the Duke actually getting his comeuppance in the form of a very public breakdown and humiliation- which, incidentally, in the film, also gave Zidler his redemption? Where is the major moment of joy between Christian and Satine?  This isn't an issue of "it's different from the movie so I don't like it"- I liked or could understand nearly all the deviations from the film in the show. This is just a remarkably inert and dramatically unsatisfying conclusion. It's not enough to scuttle the show, but for a production that I had very few faults with up to this point, it was jarring. 

People have an issue with the encore, but frankly, given the anticlimax of the ending, I welcomed it. 

I've seen a lot of critiques along the lines of "I had fun, BUT..." For me, it seems like the show just wants you to have fun and be carried away on the dazzle. It's not the first show to want this and it won't be the last. And it succeeds at hitting the bull's eyes on the target it sets for itself, which cannot be said for many shows that seem to aim for more and end up with far less. 

 

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
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Moulin Rouge Previews #387
Posted: 7/17/19 at 5:04pm

Saw it and while entertaining, it was more Vegas than Broadway.

I say give this thing an even bigger Vegas budget and let them go nuts in Nevada.  This feels shoehorned into NYC, even with the current trend of movie-to-stage musicals.

Ah, and yeah, Tveit and Olivo have zero chemistry.  Just crickets.  Seeing as it's a cornerstone of the story and what made the film so enjoyable, I'd love to see them attempt it.  I don't think it's ever going to happen.  It feels as if they spent more time on hitting the musical notes than taking acting direction.

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Posted: 7/17/19 at 5:53pm

Terrific review Kad! I wonder why great productions are so reluctant to fix a fatal flaw during previews.

I'm reminded of Network. Cranston was amazing, but a subplot featuring a cuckolded wife that was plodding and pretty useless. I know Cranston needed some down time, but the wife character should have been axed, and the network guys could have had an added scene that made more sense. I read that the production in England had the exact same problem, yet it didn't get fixed over here.

Not for nothing, Network wasn't nominated for a Tony for Best Play. And if a few tweaks were made, it could have been.

Is it the producer/director's ego that they can't/won't edit their baby?

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Moulin Rouge Previews #389
Posted: 7/17/19 at 6:37pm

Stage Door Sally said: "Terrific review Kad! I wonder why great productions are so reluctant to fix a fatal flaw during previews."

During previews? They've had a full year to fix that dumpster fire of an ending. 

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Moulin Rouge Previews #390
Posted: 7/17/19 at 7:05pm

Kad said: "For me, it seems like the show just wants you to have fun and be carried away on the dazzle. It's not the first show to want this and it won't be the last. And it succeeds at hitting the bull's eyes on the target it sets for itself, which cannot be said for many shows that seem to aim for more and end up with far less."

THIS

 

Updated On: 7/17/19 at 07:05 PM
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Moulin Rouge Previews #391
Posted: 7/17/19 at 7:08pm
I concur, Kad (but only having seen it in Boston - until later this month).AND NORMALLY, I hate spectacle - but this brought me gads of joy.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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Posted: 7/18/19 at 2:40am

Kad, Excellent write-up on MR.  The stage ending has bothered some -- if one is like me and didn't love the film, it's easier to ruminate about it -- so here my take that may be charred in flames:

1.  Actually you are right about the powers that be of the show show wanting the audience smiling as they left the theater.  Timbers said in a article last year (yeah, I read a lot) that he felt these are dark times and that's why the encore jazzed up the end of the show. 

THE FOLLOWING IS BASED ON BOSTON -- I HAVEN'T SEEN NY SO ANY CHANGES WELL........

2.  My biggest difference is the show in the show.  I don't see the backdrop with C&S as being a replacement for Bollywood as a show in a show.  I see the opening of Act 2 -- Bad Romance Rehearsal as the replacement. Per Act 1 The Pitch to the Duke -- It tells the story of the sailor and ingenue (C&S) being separated by IMO people in hire to the gangster.  And considering the athleticism of the dancing I don't see a fully costumed replica being done satisfactorily at  the end of the show.  As a theater entry, they use the Rehearsal as the probably strongest scene in the show to shoot Act 2 out of a canon.

3.  I especially didn't like the Bollywood sequence in the film-- (you called it ridiculous) -- I found it keystone copish with Nini dropping something on the head of a henchman, Zidler doing his bounce at the Duke, etc.  Also, Timbers seems pretty PC and I can see him feel the Bollywood segment is cultural appropriation -- at least now in 2019 if not in 1899.

I didn't feel that stage Zidler needed redemption like the film one.  In the film Zidler knew about the consumption from the doctor and didn't tell S until much later.  He was more manipulative than stage Zidler who had formed a family with with his troop.  The fact that Satine immediately slept with the Duke in the stage version shouldn't be a surprise -- she is labeled a courtesan early on and won't be giving up virtue.  This is her family unlike Kidman's MR relationship -- Kidman wants to fly away to be a real actress -- no strong bond with her fellows.

You didn't mention Nini but here goes for someone who might think she too needed redemption-- in the film she lets the Duke know about S&C relationship. On stage (and remember this was Boston, so I don't know if it still exists), she lets S know about the murder and mayhem that the Duke and his henchmen are guilty of when a girl had rebuffed his advances.

4.The Duke being told off and not being humiliated in public is a hard one to justify -- so here's a weak attempt.  The Duke may plan a scourge on S&C and her death ruins any possible malicious satisfaction.  Also, he's very rich and he is surrounded by very rich audience members -- in our day these type of folks get away with things that us mere poorer mortals don't.  He'll open up his own cabaret or whatever to salvage his emotional wounds. 

5.  I missed in the film Lautrec giving C more reminders of the Bohemian ideals -- on stage didn't he do it early on with Children of the Revolution on the stage.  I know Rythmns of the Night was eliminated or at least shortened for Burn the House Down (D. Byrne is a friend of Timbers and T working with B is Timbers next assignment.)  And I see that as a metaphoric revolutionary statement. 
 

Basically, the ending is quieter but most that end with death are quieter.  Camille, etc.  The Powers that Be maybe should have done a bit more to bolster the end.....but Baz and his oscar winning wife for the movie, Catherine Martin seemed to give it their very satisfied approval.  Until I listened to an interview with Logan and Timbers, I thought Baz was not that involved but they would periodically do so -- often agreeing but sometimes suggesting a relook.  Baz: "This new theatrical production absolutely honors the movie, but finds a new life that is exciting and vital for THIS audience in THIS time."

That's it for now -- just my thoughts.

  

 
 

Updated On: 7/21/19 at 02:40 AM
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Posted: 7/19/19 at 3:45pm

To quote a line from my all-time favorite movie (hint: it’s not Moulin Rouge): “I’ve Had the Time of My Life.”

Most fun I’ve had at a Broadway show in 5 years of theater-watching. (and just what the doctor ordered to cure my Waitress depression).

A spectacular spectacle that fires on all cylinders right outta the gate. I could go on and on, but looks like Kad pretty much captured all my thoughts. Also felt the ending wrapped up a little quickly, but not complaining. Ex: The duke’s part ends rather abruptly. I thought for sure there would be another big confrontation with the 3 of them coming up in the next scene. And Aaron has a beautiful voice, just don’t know that I would have cast him as Christian, but he’s super talented for sure. But hey, it’s all good.

I will say the real stars of this show (IMO) are the set + lighting + choreography (the 3 easy front-runners to start the season). Goose bumps across the board!

Oh, and when the top of Act 2 (the Bad Romance mash up) gets a standing ovation, you know you’re in business. Iconic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully it wasn’t spoiled here, but I would never have dreamed mixing in those two other songs. And let’s talk about those costumes during the Rhianna/makeover number!

I was center orchestra row L and worth every penny. Missed most of the show before the show, so get there early if u can.

So many disappointments this past season, but between this and Ain’t too Proud I’m 2-for-2 this week. Bravo to everyone involved!

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Moulin Rouge Previews #394
Posted: 7/20/19 at 7:55pm

Looks like Baz was at the matinee today and gave a speech with his wife.

Link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPTyNELB2ek

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Moulin Rouge Previews #395
Posted: 7/20/19 at 11:30pm
Was in the house tonight and this was definitely one of the most fun nights I’ve had in the theater. I LOVED it.
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Posted: 7/21/19 at 4:31am

So basically what I'm getting from the tweens on this board is that you can throw everything, but the kitchen sink at a show just for spectacle sake and the tweens will "love" it. How about substance in the book and songs or emotion in the performances? If I wanted to see a thrilling spectacle I'd go to Vegas or a Lady Gaga concert. This is why I don't take much of the "reviews" on here seriously. Once the mixed reviews come out I'm sure the demand will go down.

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Moulin Rouge Previews #397
Posted: 7/21/19 at 4:49am
Good god, why must everything be an insult around here?

The show is a spectacle, no doubt, but a very successful one. So what. If its bringing people joy, why must you crap on it? If your opinion had anything constructive, I'd have no issue but all you did was trash others opinions.

If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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Moulin Rouge Previews #398
Posted: 7/21/19 at 5:42am

BenjaminNicholas2 said: "Saw it and while entertaining, it was more Vegas than Broadway.

I say give this thing an even bigger Vegas budget and let them go nuts in Nevada. This feels shoehorned into NYC, even with the current trend of movie-to-stage musicals.

Ah, and yeah, Tveit and Olivo have zero chemistry. Just crickets. Seeing as it's a cornerstone of the story and what made the film so enjoyable, I'd love to see them attempt it. I don't think it's ever going to happen. It feels as if they spent more time on hitting the musical notes than taking acting direction.
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There is nothing more boring than an old musical comedy queen lamenting current Broadway productions.

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Moulin Rouge Previews #399
Posted: 7/21/19 at 9:04am

I was there last night as well and the audience was eating it up. The extravagance of it all really is impressive though I agree with what people are saying about its faults. I don't think the reviews are gonna matter much for this one, much like Wicked. I don't think it'll run for an eternity like Wicked but I do think it'll be a big fat hit for awhile. A 5+ year run wouldn't shock me in the least.

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Posted: 7/21/19 at 12:37pm

djoko84 said: "So basically what I'm getting from the tweens on this board is that you can throw everything, but the kitchen sink at a show just for spectacle sake and the tweens will "love" it. How about substance in the book and songs or emotion in the performances? If I wanted to see a thrilling spectacle I'd go to Vegas or a Lady Gaga concert. This is why I don't take much of the "reviews" on here seriously. Once the mixed reviews come out I'm sure the demand will go down."

I’m 30. My mother is nearly 70. We both had a fantastic time; she is still raving about it and it brought her a ton of joy when she needed it. 

There’s enough room on Broadway for spectacle shows alongside shows with more substance. There always has been. There always will be. As long as the production succeeds in what it wants to accomplish, who cares if it’s light? Broadway has never, ever been a place of high art or substance alone. 

"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."