Did you see The Evita film in theaters?

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 11:41am

Were you excited for the film and did Madonna live up to your expectations? 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 11:45am

Yes and no.

[ARTc3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 11:45am

I saw Evita on the big screen. I was only excited because it was produced at a time when there weren't many movie musicals being made. I was hoping Evita with Madonna would energize the genre. The movie was mediocre as was Madonna.

[sueb1863]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 11:56am

I saw it and liked it. Madonna was OK, she was good vocally but it was impossible for me to see her as Evita and not as Madonna playing Evita. She was about what I expected.

I had a bigger problem with being unable to understand a good chunk of Antonio Banderas' lines due to his accent, although I thought he did a fine job with the part otherwise. Liked Jonathan Pryce, too.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:03pm

One of the film's high points was one of the musical's duller songs, "I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You".

Madonna has an acting presence similar to Elvis Presley:  Big charisma and star power but no spontaneity or instinct.   The choice to make Eva more sympathetic made the Che character completely incomprehensible.  It was pretty to look at.

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:07pm

Very interesting. I was too young to see the film in theaters but I watched it several years ago. Seeing the film was my first exposure to Evita and I thought Madonna was good and I thought the songs were cute. Then I listened to the OBC recording and it blew my mind. I hadn't realized How amazing the songs were until they were sung by a great singer with the biggest balls on broadway. I did like Madonna's Lament though.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:14pm

Do you stay up late at night making lists of threads you can start that wil make people forget what a disgusting troll you actually are?

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:21pm

I enjoyed it in the movie theaters, mostly because of the big-canvas look and great cinematic flourishes (mixing time frames and places as Eva's lovers come and go). Madonna looked great, and we knew she wasn't really an actress anyway so the canned-ness actually matched the artificiality of the real Eva Peron. All in all a strong work.

In prep for our trip last Christmas to Buenos Aires, we recently rewatched it on DVD. Shocked to discover that many of the exteriors and most of the interiors weren't shot in Argentina at all but mostly in Budapest!! And yes, when we finally stood outside the real Casa Rosada we shot pics doing the classic Evita arm raise. Duh.

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:21pm

I saw it in the movie theaters. I loved it. Madonna is still my favorite Evita, and I don't feel guilty admitting it.

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:27pm

I would like to share something very cool that g.d.e.l.g.i.  shared on another thread a few years back. It talks about how Liza Minnelli and Barbra Streisand were in the running to play Evita in the film. It's really fascinating: 

1982: Paramount Pictures purchases the rights. Robert Stigwood, set to produce, chooses Ken Russell to direct. Russell spends three months working on the script, looking for European locations, and scheduling screen tests. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice are adamant about casting Elaine Paige (helps the latter happens to be warming her bedsheets at the time, I'd say). Ken seems to be the lone dissenter: "Although there is no doubt that across the footlights her performance brought tears to the eyes, the eye of the camera proved to be made of sterner stuff." He auditions an endless cavalcade of blond-wigged and gold-laméd "Evita clones, each doing an interpretation of 'Another Suitcase in Another Hall,'" with Webber and Rice forcing yet another screen test on Paige again and again, and Russell still holding strong. About the only casting decision he is sure of is David Essex as Che Guevara, thinking he would be "charming."

Russell desires a female lead with balls. For whatever reason, that reminds him of Barbra Streisand. He attempted to work with her once before in the Seventies on a picture about Sarah Bernhardt that never got made, so he has an "in." She treats him to a chilly dinner, and is munificent enough to fulfill his request for some wine by ordering half a bottle and downing most of it herself. She tries picking his brain on everything from camera lighting to crane shots to zooms. Finally, he realizes that "a Jewish princess playing a Catholic whore" is a nonstarter, and moves on to greener pastures.

Liza Minnelli is next on the block. Rice and Stigwood aren't sure; Webber is starstruck and thusly more open-minded. For her audition, she throws on a blond wig, and skips the gold lamé, and Rusell apparently gets the performance of her career. Quote: "So Liza sang in her jeans and T-shirt, and when she didn't know the words she improvised, soaring above obstacles that would have floored most aspirants to produce a performance so charismatic, so charged, so inspired, that she totally transcended the sentimentality and superficial glamor of the stagy, two dimensional character and turned her into a vibrant woman of flesh and blood who had clawed her way out of the slums and slept her way to the top to possess the very soul of a nation... And when she reached her climax with an orgasmic 'I'm coming,' so was everyone else in the place: man, woman, dog."

So Stigwood summons Russell to his estate to get his opinion. Quick 70 mph ride by speedboat clashing with gushing winds, during which he falls flat on his face and takes this to be an omen. Hits land, checks into a guest bungalow, is taken where to Stigwood is sat watching multiple news reports at once. Stiggie then takes the trouble to show Ken all the holes on his estate where the spider crabs hang out and mate (can you spell 'stalling'?). Finally, Ken gets him to sit down and watch the tape of Liza's audition.

Stigwood isn't ready to commit to a decision; he'll send Ken a message as soon as he's home. Ken leaves L.A., and as he's arriving at Heathrow in London, he's handed a message: "I opened the folded paper bearing my name scribbled in pencil. The message consisted of two words: 'Elaine Paige.' I immediately phoned my agent, who brushed aside my protestations... I couldn't believe it. I'd been set up. I'd been humored. It was always going to be Elaine Paige. My dreams of coming up with an alternative Evita were just dreams."

So Ken nips into a bottle of Beaujolais and weighs his decision. On the one hand, swallow his pride, brave the insult, and try for a hit; on the other, be an idealist, keep his dignity, and quit. The idealist won. He told his agent he was off the picture. Sherry Lansing had him over to Paramount to try and sweet-talk him, thinking he wasn't serious about bowing out and laying on the royal treatment, down to a magnum of champagne. Ken tells her flat out, no Elaine, no Evita, and she promptly puts away the champagne: "'What are you doing?' I said, raising my voice at the sight of my lunchtime tipple being locked away. 'We've nothing to celebrate now, have we?' she said, icily."

The creatives were the polar opposite of gracious winners as well, if Tim Rice's comments to the New York Times are any indicator: "Russell was an insane choice, and would have wrecked the film if he had gotten his hands on it. I was relieved when he got the boot."

Updated On: 6/14/15 at 12:27 PM

[Demitri2]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:35pm

I think I would've enjoyed the movie much more had Meryl Streep played Eva. I recall it was briefly announced that the film was in the works with Streep and a then popular Paula Abdul doing the choreography. Unfortunately the funding wasn't there. 

I also didn't like the fact that they gave "Another Suitcase In Another Hall" to Madonna. In the stage version that number was one of the most poignant moments in the show for me.

I once had the opportunity to speak with film director Ken Russell who briefly began filming the movie back in the eighties with Elaine Paige and asked him what happened?He said Paige might have been fine on stage but had absolutely no clue when it came to the film medium. Then he said, "You may not believe this but Liza Minnelli would have been incredible in the role but the producers were totally against casting her."

[rosscoe(au)]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:36pm

Would love to see that Screen test!

 

Saw the film in the cinema, not a fan of Madonna, Warner Bros in Australia made every one book in advance to see the film and charged at the time the unheard price of 18.00 dollars to see the film. I saw it opening night and there where about seven other people in the 1200 seat cinema! 

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:42pm

I don't know how Streep would have been, but I'm guessing better than Madonna. I would have killed to see Liza or even Streisand in the role. Both of those women are tough as nails and would have brought an electric quality to the role. And yes I have searched the internet for years to find the Liza audition tape. Hopefully it turns up someday.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:44pm

"I would have killed to see Liza or even Streisand in the role."

Not worth taking a life.

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:45pm

Oh Namo, you're so funny.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:46pm

He is funny, you disgusting example of a human being. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:46pm

Thank you both!

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 12:58pm

I saw the show on Broadway and I saw it in the theater.

Evita is a very theatrical show.  The original Broadway production played to that theatricality.  Obviously that can't be used to as great effect on film.  So to me, the movie lacked the excitement.  It was just another biopic along the lines of Coal Miners Daughter.

I thought Madonna was the wrong choice. Her vocals don't handle the score very well.  Patti LuPone complained about having to belt those high notes (are they Gs?) but it's so thrilling to hear the score sung properly.  Madonna didn't even try.

She was also pregnant at the time of filming and it's acknowledged that the choreography was toned down because of that.

The movie is not as bad as Maimed or A Chorus Line, but it's not all that it could be.

And just as a historical note, at various times the following actresses were "being considered" for the role:  Meryl Streep, Liza Minnelli, Barbra Streisand, Cher and strangely enough Bernadette Peters.  Kewpie Doll Evita would have been a real travesty.

Updated On: 6/14/15 at 12:58 PM

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:00pm

I also didn't like the fact that they gave "Another Suitcase In Another Hall" to Madonna. In the stage version that number was one of the most poignant moments in the show for me.

Ya know it's funny, I haven't listened to the song in awhile and while I have always liked the song, I never really understood it. Now that I'm a bit older, I have revisited the song and I believe I now see why it's so poignant. I wish I could elaborate my thoughts clearly but I've never been great at analyzing my thoughts and putting them on paper. I'll just add that I think the song adds another level to the show. 

 

[Showface]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:01pm

Wasn't Michelle Pfeiffer attached to play Evita at one point?

[Bilbo3]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:04pm

Yes she was. Here's her demo track: https://youtu.be/l-Pw604VFK8

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:05pm

I think I would've enjoyed the movie much more had Meryl Streep played Eva. I recall it was briefly announced that the film was in the works with Streep and a then popular Paula Abdul doing the choreography. Unfortunately the funding wasn't there.

 

Actually, Streep pulled out due to "exhaustion."

Updated On: 6/14/15 at 01:05 PM

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:09pm

Also, Olivia Newton-John was seriously considered.  After Grease, they wanted to get her to be the savior of movie musicals.  If she could have done Evita circa 1985, she could have been the next Mitzi Gaynor.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:11pm

It has been said that Streep filmed one or two scenes.  I don't know whether it was Streep or Andrew Lloyd-Webber or who, but somebody wasn't happy with the results.

[Showface]

Posted: 6/14/15 at 1:11pm

I may be wrong, but I recall reading somewhere that Glenn Close was rumored/considered as well...

I'm not sure if anything was set to be official, though, or if it was just speculation