If/then vs. Violet

David2
Swing
joined:5/4/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 04:00pm
I'm going to be heading to New York in a few weeks and I have time I see a show and the two I really want to see are if/ then and violet. I was wondering which show I should see or is there any better shows to see?
mrgiovanni
Chorus Member
joined:9/5/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 04:09pm
If/Then. Simple
#1Elphie
Broadway Legend
joined:6/24/04
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 04:11pm
Out of those two, I prefer Violet. Both shows feature great performances by their leading ladies, but I think Violet has a better book and an absolutely gorgeous score. I was much more moved by Violet than If/Then.
DramaTeach
Stand-by
joined:3/17/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 05:13pm
Violet, IMHO. Despite some good performances, I was not a fan of the music and storyline in If/Then. Violet has some beautiful songs and great performances.
brdway411
Broadway Star
joined:2/24/14
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 05:14pm
I preferred Violet, I HATED If/Then.
SomeOtherMe
Understudy
joined:3/12/14
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 05:45pm
I enjoyed both very much. It just depends on what kind of musical you're more into seeing. "Violet" has a much more "classic" and country type of feel to it where as "If/Then" is a contemporary, romantic pop musical. Both have a talented cast and a number of good songs. Personally, I favored If/Then a bit more but that's just personal preference. Both were great.
NeverSoShy
Chorus Member
joined:10/8/11
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 06:17pm
I felt that If/Then had a little bit more of a wow factor, and (for obvious reasons) felt a lot more modern, whereas Violet was a lot more polished. I do find it difficult to favour one over the other, but those that I saw it with preferred If/Then overall but thought that the performances were better in Violet (but to an extent struggled to connect with the show as much). Both casts are absolutely fantastic though.
theatregeek02
Swing
joined:3/29/14
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 07:15pm
Definitely Violet. In my opinion, the only thing keeping If/Then alive is Idina Menzel's name.
Bettyboy72
Broadway Legend
joined:3/31/06
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 07:31pm
Violet-better score and story. If/Then has an incredible performance by Idina but the book and score suck balls.
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haterobics
Broadway Legend
joined:3/29/14
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 07:33pm
"suck balls"

You say that like it's a bad thing?!
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Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend
joined:7/20/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 07:41pm
Yikes, this is a broadway theater site dude!

Yeah, If/Then wasn't great but both Idina and Sutton are giving such incredible performances, either one would be good.
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qolbinau
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/08
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 07:42pm
All the more sense to make such a comment :P.
YouWantitWhen????
Broadway Legend
joined:7/16/05
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 11:43pm
I was not overwhelmed with Violet. In fact, a. It underwhelmed.
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jnb9872
Broadway Legend
joined:11/24/08
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 11:44pm
VIOLET has an emotionally rich story, a musically diverse and vibrant score, some absolutely thrillingly realized performances and a spiritually and theatrically fulfilling catharsis by its beautiful journey's end.

IF/THEN has a really shiny mirror that occasionally is brought down to reflect on actors and singers trying to make sense of a needlessly complicated (and yet still somehow incredibly shallow) tale with little to take home by way of tuneful music or emotional resonance. It is much belting and fury, signifying nothing.
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bwayphreak234
Broadway Legend
joined:7/4/10
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/17/14 at 11:49pm
If/Then.
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orangeskittles
Broadway Legend
joined:1/8/05
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/18/14 at 12:35am
Better Score: Violet

Better Lead Performance: If/Then
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Visceral_Fella
Broadway Star
joined:1/18/12
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/18/14 at 01:15am
I preferred Violet. If/Then has all the potential in the world, but something just didn't come together.
Littleshopofcarrie
Broadway Star
joined:12/9/12
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/18/14 at 09:49am
Haven't seen If/Then but Violet is phenomenal.
Comden Green
Understudy
joined:8/19/12
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 11:36am
If/Then
1. (Perhaps minor point) I am frequently disappointed when my Broadway show is over after only 95 minutes. (Exception - Hedwig was great fun even without an intermission)

2. The book of if/then has been criticized. i had no problem with it. The book of Violet was absurd. SPOILER ALERT? that she has two men fighting over her shortly after meeting her? i wasn't buying it.

3. idina -magnificent

4. loved the music in both shows - bought both cast recordings

5. supporting casts of both shows were amahzing. incredible voices.

6. I was thrilled by if/then. violet was underwhelming.
Mister Matt
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/03
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 12:46pm
I haven't seen If/Then, but Violet is the sole reason I booked a trip to NYC. Saw a regional production of the show three times and couldn't miss seeing the Broadway debut. Great book and beautiful score.
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Bettyboy72
Broadway Legend
joined:3/31/06
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 04:25pm
"2. The book of if/then has been criticized. i had no problem with it. The book of Violet was absurd. SPOILER ALERT? that she has two men fighting over her shortly after meeting her? i wasn't buying it."

If/Then has several men fighting over a dour, self involved woman-that seems more credible to you?
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal "I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend
joined:7/20/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 04:28pm
"If/Then has several men fighting over a dour, self involved woman-that seems more credible to you?"

OH SH*T!

To the original poster, you are going to get a million different opinions on these shows, but I do hope you experience both because there are positives with both productions. Have fun!
Four Simple Rules for Attending the Theater 1. This is a nice night out. Dress accordingly. Like, no sweatpants. 2. When you enter the theater, turn off your phone. All issues with phones will be avoided this way, & you won't be verbally accosted by the cast, crew, & other patrons. 3. I did not pay dollas to hear you talk or sing. I paid dollas to see & hear gorgeous men like Norm Lewis, Ramin Karimloo & Joshua Henry. 4. Unless you have medical issues, don't eat. The wrappers are loud, & your disgusting munching is even louder. You aren't at the movies or a barn dance, baby.
BroadwayGirl107
Broadway Legend
joined:8/26/03
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 04:37pm
Neither show was perfect, but I was deeply moved and thoroughly entertained by both. And both have stellar performances from their leading ladies...I wouldn't miss either!
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qolbinau
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/08
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 05:12pm
I don't know Violet so apologies if this sounds silly but doesn't the lead have a disfigured face? It's probably more plausible that guys would be throwing themselves at Idina Menzel's Elizabeth - she's hot, funny and intelligent.
Sutton Ross
Broadway Legend
joined:7/20/13
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 05:17pm
Sutton Foster isn't disfigured or scarred up in any way. She is gorgeous in this.
Four Simple Rules for Attending the Theater 1. This is a nice night out. Dress accordingly. Like, no sweatpants. 2. When you enter the theater, turn off your phone. All issues with phones will be avoided this way, & you won't be verbally accosted by the cast, crew, & other patrons. 3. I did not pay dollas to hear you talk or sing. I paid dollas to see & hear gorgeous men like Norm Lewis, Ramin Karimloo & Joshua Henry. 4. Unless you have medical issues, don't eat. The wrappers are loud, & your disgusting munching is even louder. You aren't at the movies or a barn dance, baby.
YouWantitWhen????
Broadway Legend
joined:7/16/05
If/then vs. Violet
Posted: 5/19/14 at 05:48pm
Her character gas a large gash over her face due to a childhood accident. While Foster wears no makeup, she does not actually show the gash on her face during the show. It is implied that she is disfigured throughout, especially if watch how she manages her hair to cover the "scar'.
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