SAY NO to this "Special Tony" stuff!

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:03pm

Ok. This "Special Tony" stuff, for the Billy's, is absurd.

They work hard. And they're good. But they do it twice a week.. and now there's going to be four of them.

Once puberty hits, the kids are out. It will be a neverending cycle of kiddies. Why do they get a special award???

I just don't see the logic in creating a "Special Tony" for a few dancing boys. It's a little silly. To be completely honest.

[LadyDramaturg2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:05pm

"a few dancing boys."

...Really?!?

[chinkie azn jai]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:07pm

Did I miss something?

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:08pm

There are a collective few on here, Pirag/SirNotAppearing as the leader, who believe there should be a "Special Tony" for the Billy's.

It doesn't make sense and is so ridiculous..
Updated On: 1/31/09 at 02:08 PM

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:09pm

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Yay! Let's start public fights with someone because they sent me a PM I found nasty!

Updated On: 1/31/09 at 02:09 PM

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:11pm

Wait, did you just call me "the leader" of a "collective few"?

Wow...in the words of John Proctor, "well, then I must find it and join it".

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:13pm

Are you not the one who keeps bringing up the idea of a "Special Tony" ?

You, as a poster, has nothing to do with this thread.

It's your opinion of a ridiculous "Special Tony" that sparked this thread creation.

But please, come back and play again!

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:17pm

"Are you not the one who keeps bringing up the idea of a "Special Tony" ? "
-There's a difference between bringing up an idea once or twice and being the leader of a faction sworn to protect it.
"You, as a poster, has nothing to do with this thread."
-"You has nothing to do with this thread"? Well, I didn't know I was a lolcat. I do "has" something to do with this thread because you brought my name up specifically.

Who taught you to start board wars so well? Your good buddy TooDarnHot?

[blaxx]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:21pm

Eek! Take it outside, you two!

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:21pm

No "board wars" ...

I have absolutely NOTHING against you.

I just don't agree with your cracked-out opinions.

You seem to have trouble deciphering the difference between a personal attack and a critique of your opinions?

The first sign of an immature child.

I didn't start a thread that said "Piragua is soo ugly and dumb! ROFL. LOL. LMAO"

That's a personal attack. This a simple test of your voiced opinions and beliefs.

Instead of AVOIDING the actual topic at hand ("Special Tony" for Billy's), why don't you just act somewhat decent and defend your opinion?


I am not looking to fight with you... that's so boring. I'm looking to have a nice heated debate about this topic. Are you capable of that? Updated On: 1/31/09 at 02:21 PM

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:25pm

Well, I guess Sondheim was wrong...no matter what you say, children WON'T listen.

I'm not going to respond to your trainwreck of a post with a line-by-line deconstruction. Instead, I'm just going to provide a fancy up arrow, so everyone who sees this can re-read your "argument" and see how, through the art of BWW zen, you can deny personally attacking me while personally attacking me. I'm done with this petty little argument, because honestly, I have much better things to do with my time than squabble with some All That Chat reject who comes up with conspiracy theories about SPECIAL TONY AWARDS.

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:26pm

I'm sorry, I didn't read your measured, appropriate response in the AKB thread before posting that.

Let's just end this, K?

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:29pm

Wel...l I'd prefer you defend your opinion that you seem to voice every single time the TONY AWARDS come up!

I strongly disagree with the belief that a few boys, who dance well, should receive a "Special Tony"

You've never really explained why the entire Tony nation should create a special award for Billy.

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 2:34pm

I say this with all the kindness in the world but...

I really don't think the Tony committee gives a SH*T what a bunch of anonymous posters on an internet message board have to say about if and how the Billys should be awarded. And that goes for both sides of the issue.

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 3:47pm

Wow, Charlie, just wow.

Moreover, I'd like you to defend YOUR opinion. Why am I the one on trial here? YOU started this silly feud with me. YOU snapped back when I tried to end it.

[wicked_beast4]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 4:00pm

Piragua, don't even bother with this childish imbecile. A few weeks ago, I posted a few words against his beloved UPS workers, and he snapped and started spewing crap everywhere. The Charleston is just our new TDH, minus the frickin' LuPwning.

And I am in complete favor of a Tony for the boys. THe Charleston, how could you says "just for a few dancing boys". The have a talent deserves the award. They do not just "dance well". The are incredible. Let's see you, even when you were, pull that off.

Updated On: 1/31/09 at 04:00 PM

[Schmerg_The_Impaler]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 4:03pm

Guys, this is kind of ridiculous. What's so bad about someone believing there should be a special Tony?

The actors who play Billy Elliot are very, very talented, but you cannot really compare them with full-grown adult actors who have been working toward a Tony for a long time. It's difficult to judge who's 'better' in a situation like that. A "Special Tony" makes sense. On the other hand, TheCharleston DOES have a point that there will be frequent Billy replacements if this show has a healthy lifespan on Broadway, since the leads are so close to puberty.

Both of you have points on this issue that makes sense, but TheCharleston, I don't see why you'd create a thread to publicly denounce PG2 for an opinion of his that actually makes a fair amount of sense. Yeah, you disagree with his point, but let's be honest, this thread isn't about Special Tonys--you only made this thread because you don't like PG2. You're blowing what he's saying out of proportion because you're hoping other people will attack him as well.

[scaryclowns223]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 4:18pm

I think the logic behind a special Tony (something I agree with) would be that to honor all three boys in one slot would be to honor the role, not the actors. Thus, they shouldn't really be nominated as best actor, but instead given an honorary award to honor their achievements.

[winston89]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 5:14pm

And keep in mind that this whole idea of giving the actors who play Billy a special Tony was because they did that for the role when the show opened up in London with the Olivier awards. Instead of just giving it to one person for best actor they gave the best acting Olivier to all three of them.

I also think that it shouldn't matter how long you have been working for. Even if it's your debut and your the best performer in that category that year, then that is all that should matter.

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:28pm

Well, Charlie, looks like you just made an ass of yourself.

But go ahead, call me immature, ridiculous, cracked-out (!) and indecent. That'll get people on your side real quick.

Updated On: 1/31/09 at 07:28 PM

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:37pm

How so?

I made a thread disagreeing with an opinion (that you strongly support)... I stand by my belief that there shouldn't be a "Special" TONY for dancing children.

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:53pm

I think if Billy Elliot wants a special Tony they should hire Cubby Bernstein to get them one like everyone else does.

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:53pm

This isn't about your opinion, in case you haven't noticed.


No, this is about your constant attacks on other members and myself, including the name-calling that can be seen in this very thread, and your general disdain for me.

Ya know, you remind me of a garden hose laying in the grass - all I had to do was turn on the faucet (by leading a faction of evil BWW members sworn to get the Billy Elliot boys a special Tony, plotting to murder you, and kidnap Barack Obama) and you span dervishly all around, spraying water everywhere.

[TheCharleston]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:56pm

Really?

I'm spraying water everywhere?

Such a dramatic metaphor for such a harmless thread on a message board! Oh my.

Well, don't get wet. And if you do get wet... come on in for a towel and some hot tea. Love you!

[PiraguaGuy2]

Posted: 1/31/09 at 7:57pm

No tea, thanks - with all your conspiracy theories, it could be poison...or a truth serum.