Charlton Heston dies- Page 3

[WickedBoy2]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 2:12pm

Bang Bang he's dead. Nobody could hear a single word of his performance at London's Queens Theatre in 'The Caine Mutiny Court Marshall' a few years back because he had no interest in what he was doing on stage. A dreadful performance!
Did he really make that many great movies besides the obvious?

[Eris0303]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 2:25pm

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 2:45pm

I'm sorry for the mourning his family is going through...

But put me in the camp that thinks that just because someone was a good actor, we should not glorify him if his public and political life was full of such vileness. He went to towns right after school-shootings happened there, on multiple occasions, to hold huge pro-gun rallies. No matter your stance on gun laws, that is despicable.

Again, he was a good, sometimes great, actor. But that doesn't excuse his actions.

I'm sorry for his family, though. And I will show him more respect at this time than the respect he showed to the victims and families and communities that he devastated with his rallies in the midst of their mourning.

Updated On: 4/6/08 at 02:45 PM

[allofmylife]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 3:02pm

Believe me - I'm really serious - the entertainment industry is as riddled with people who have hate in their hearts as any other walk of life. Just because we celebrate the just better than some industries doesn't mean we're a huge mass of gay-positive, colorblind women-empowering philanthropists. Heston had his bad points, but as a friend of mine who worked with him said, perhaps it was the massive contradictions boiling inside him that made him interesting.

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 6:39pm

I always knew he was a republican but I didn't know he was anti-gay. And frankly, I think holding a pro-gun rally in Columbine was just downright stupid and insensitive.

[Mattbrain]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 6:39pm

I always knew he was a republican but I didn't know he was anti-gay. And frankly, I think holding a pro-gun rally in Columbine was just downright stupid and insensitive.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 6:49pm

I hate the man; dead or alive.

So he has alzheimers and access to his gun collection? Lovely/

[sabrelady]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 7:14pm

He was amply rewarded in his life for his performances. He will be remembered for those.
Frankly I find myself thinking of Mel Gibson- another actor who (may) have given good performances. Does that mean we forget his poisoned filled attituded and behaviors? I think not.

But as a token tip o the hat Heston was actively involved in the civil rights movement. I remember a joke about the Parsons Egg- Parts of it were excelent".

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 7:42pm

I also remember his ignorant statements on gun control and gay rights. He was a bastard.

[WickedBoy2]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 7:45pm

He came over as being nothing but arrogant.

[Kasie]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 7:56pm

Moses is dead?!?!

RIP.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 7:56pm

Hitler was a good writer. Does that mean we should have been sad he died?

[Kasie]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:04pm

Perhaps.

I have respect for the dead no matter who it is. Updated On: 4/6/08 at 08:04 PM

[GoSmileLaughCryClap]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:11pm

On a chat board that regularly writes off actors who don't "stage door" after matinees, I find it amusing that there is a heartfelt defense for a celebrity who became a rabid homophobic gun hawking disgrace.

You all went ballistic because Mandy Pantinkin couldn't keep his act together during The Wild Party. And now we're supposed to mourn a man who devolved into a racist gun freak?

This is a valid-though unexpected- thread; and I'm glad that it reflects a variety of emotions and opinions.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:31pm

So now Heston was Hitler. Kind of stretching it a bit wouldn't you say?

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:34pm

Heston didn't respect the dead. As evidenced by his trips to mourning communities to hold pro-gun rallies amidst people who were still devastated by the shootings and deaths.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:37pm

The man made mistakes. As someone very famous once said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

He started out as a liberal & changed his view over the years. Maybe his early years changed him.

[StickToPriest]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 8:41pm

Yes, everyone makes mistakes. Everyone sins.

But not everyone is heartless enough to bring more heartbreak, deliberately, to recently heartbroken people. It is disgusting. And I'd like to think most people, decent people that is, would never do something like that. He did.

This is not about his political views. He has a right to them. And I don't agree with him, but they do not mean he was in indecent man.

What makes him indecent was his parading his pro-gun organization around mourning communities.


Again, I am very sorry for the loss his family is suffering and I am sad he died. But I do not think glorifying someone just because they were a good actor, and ignoring these things he did, is the right thing to do.

Updated On: 4/6/08 at 08:41 PM

[allofmylife]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 9:55pm

I'm going to try to get through this without crying.

Both my parents had Alzheimer's. My dad just died of it and my mother is doing so now.

They were the most liberal of people when I grew up. Hell, the took me to New York every years to see all the shows. They worked in theater.

But something happened to my dad back in 1994. He changed. He darkened. His character did a 180. He basically became Bill O'Reilly. It was creepy and frightening.

I'm not saying this is what happened to Heston per say. Yet.....

Here was a man who marched in civil rights rallies and had loads of liberal friends. Everyone who met him says he was always polite to a fault and very compassionate. Even in the height of his weakness, he came down to the gate and spoke to Michael Moore, who proceeded to b**tf**k him nationally for no reason other than a cocky "I got Ya!!!!"

In older age - and assuming the same timeframe as my father's progress of the illness - maybe there is something there we should consider.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 10:07pm

I have as much respect for Moore as I do for a pile of pond scume.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 10:24pm

Ha ha. Mr. Roxy, it's "scum" not "scume." Scume sounds like something they put on top of your desert in a European restaurante.

[miss pennywise]

Posted: 4/6/08 at 10:53pm

Allofmylife,

I am very sorry for your loss. I can tell that the suffering of your parents is very much with you. It's lovely that you are so fond of them and care about them so much. Sometimes the death of a certain "famous" person can cause us to recall personal losses, so we have a very strong emotional response to it.

I understand the kind of pain you are experiencing because it has happened to me, too. It's hard to watch your parents suffer and die--or to lose them suddenly. It only gets easier with the passage of time, but the pain never goes away completely.

Thank you for sharing such a personal and meaningful part of your life with us.

[allofmylife]

Posted: 4/7/08 at 12:17am

Thanks, Miss Pennywise. It has been a sad time for the last few years. The saddest part is that my parents supported and financed me for ages when I was a kid/young adult in my budding career in musical theatre as a nascent director/producer, then I up and became an artist, then set designer, then writer, but no musicals. And musical theatre was the backbone of our family, my parent's profession and their great love.

When I went out to Hollywood, they came out to visit a few times, see the Tonight Show, Arsenio, etc., dine at the studio commissaries, but my dad always said "When are you going to do another show?"

He passed away after a ten year battle with Alzheimer's just as I was starting to work on a Broadway show. I knew that would happen.

And now, I have not one but two shows underway and I can't tell you what I would give to tell the old man all about it.

Sucks. Really sucks.