Obama Takes Potomac Primaries

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Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#1
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:25pm
Why wait for the results? Let's just say that he wins Virginia, Maryland and DC by huge margins and comes out with 35-40 delegates more than Hillary.

So with these three wins, Barack Obama becomes the Democratic frontrunner--a historical event in and of itself!--but he is not yet the nominee.

That won't be decided until March 4, on which day Obama will have 3 chances to seal the deal: Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania.

Should he win any ONE of these, he will be the nominee.

Should he lose all three, Hillary is the nominee.

Unless of course, the superdelegates disagree...EITHER WAY!
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#2
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:38pm
interetsing points Joey... he's currently in the lead with pledged delegates (even before potomac), but i'm pretty sure Clinton will take Texas (latino vote)... and i dont know enough about ohio to form an opinion.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#2
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:45pm
Anything can happen in the next three hours here in VA, but the exit polls are saying Hillary.

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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#3
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:56pm
I voted this morning.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#4
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:59pm
A 2/11 SurveyUSA poll has Clinton ahead in Ohio 56-39.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#5
Posted: 2/12/08 at 3:59pm
Go Hil!!!
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#6
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:15pm
Whew, thanks Tazber. I'm kind of disappointed by the lack of support she's gotten in DC.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#7
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:17pm
DC is predominantly black. What do you expect?
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#8
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:20pm
Do all the "special" voters vote exactly like you, SM2?
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#9
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:20pm
I was also referring to Virginia and Maryland. And the people I saw carrying signs for Obama over the weekend were predominantly white. Whereas, I didn't see anyone campaigning for Hilary.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#10
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:23pm
She sent Bill here to Va Bch/Norfolk today. But I was disappointed that she didn't come herself.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#11
Posted: 2/12/08 at 4:26pm
My polling place in Montgomery County was covered with Obama and Ron Paul signs, but I only saw two small signs for Clinton. One would have thought that Paul and Obama were running against each other and that Hillary was was vying for a seat on the County Council.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#12
Posted: 2/12/08 at 5:04pm
because there is actually a race, we need to let all the states vote before declaring a winner.

it's annoying how the pundits practically want her to drop out if she doesn't win tonite. and john kerry certainly made an ass of himself on cnn a few minutes ago with a similar sentiment.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#13
Posted: 2/12/08 at 5:32pm
Kerry's just bitter.

That's why I'm a bit disgusted with the television news in DC. Even before the polls opened today they were saying, "the Clinton campaign expects to lose in the Potomac Primary". I hate the fact that they're inferring that my vote doesn't count. At least that's they way I interpreted it.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#14
Posted: 2/12/08 at 5:43pm
if the process was winner takes all, I could see some logic to it. if all the states had the same delegate value, i'd call for clinton's concession myself.

but that's not how it works at all. and your vote def counts.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#15
Posted: 2/12/08 at 5:57pm
African American men got the right to vote 55 years before women of any color did.

Not shocking that Obama is doing better than Hil. Just sayin.
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re: Obama Takes Potomac Primaries#16
Posted: 2/12/08 at 6:04pm
"Anything can happen in the next three hours here in VA, but the exit polls are saying Hillary."

I don't know which exit polls you are reading, but the two I've seen from VA show Obama with about a 20 point lead.

But we all know how "reliable" exit polls are.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 6:27pm
two chances. pa's not until 4/22. but he'll also have fl and mi as chances once they decide to let them re-caucus to break the tie.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 6:49pm
Just a nod to historical accuracy.
African-American men had the "right" to vote 55 years before women, but most of them lived in areas where they were not allowed to vote for nearly 40 years after women.

I don't think anyone should conceed, but I do take some issue with the statements of many Hillary supporters that many of the states Obama has won (and gotten more delegates out of) shouldn't count for various reasons.

Why is the Wisconsin primary on the 19th not considered a legitimate test?

papa noted my other "fact-check" that PA is not until 4/22.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 7:19pm
I do take some issue with the statements of many Hillary supporters that many of the states Obama has won (and gotten more delegates out of) shouldn't count for various reasons.

I agree, the excuses are frustrating. The way some people talk, the only primaries that "count" are the ones she HAS won- especially Florida and Michigan- or think she WILL win. The other 35 states? Psh.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 7:31pm
let's be fair--there has been much whining, lamentation and spin from BOTH Clinton and Obama supporters.

I mean, let's not forget how unfair the superdelegates will be if they benefit Clinton.

I have no interest in 'fair election' opinions motivated by 'what will help my candidate win'. we clearly have a screwed up system that disenfranchises way too many people.

I agree that superdelegates shouldn't decide the election, fyi.

I believe that Michigan and Florida should have their votes count, but only if it's fair to both Clinton and Obama voters.

I believe we need to wait and see how all the states vote until a candidate reaches the minimum needed to secure the nom.

I believe we need to keep our 'my team is better than your team' cheerleading to a dull roar knowing that by end of August, we are going to have to start supporting the nominee or else face 4 more years of GOP rule.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 7:37pm
For what it's worth - those people carrying the signs are volunteers and the Clinton campaign tried hard to get more volunteers out to carry the signs and make the calls. I had to work - no choice and I imagine that was the problem with most of the Clinton supporters. The ones I did see looked for the most part like middle aged women and a few men. The Obama sign carriers all appeared to be college age.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 7:45pm
Very interesting observation Mamie. And now that I think about it, how right you are. I saw two Obama supporters outside the Columbia Heights metro station (in the rain no less), and both were guys were definitely college age.
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Posted: 2/12/08 at 8:19pm
In Virginia, Obama pulled in women, the white male vote and those who earn less than 50 grand, dispelling some of the conventional wisdom -- slash mythology -- that he only appeals to youth and wealthier, educated folk (i.e. "elites.) Watch for analysis of Virginia's electorate tonight and in the 48 news cycle ahead. Its results will be among the new tea leaves, as both independents and Republicans apparently voted for Obama in droves today.

Isn't this an exciting time? Polls held open an hour and a half so everyone gets a shot, despite bad weather. People waiting in line, determined. It's pretty thrilling, no matter who wins.

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Posted: 2/12/08 at 8:27pm
it is thrilling indeed.

and if those polling trends continue, i'd say he's def the nominee.