Brooklyn - Sad Trash

TapDanceKid
#0Brooklyn - Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:18pm

Brooklyn


That is the worst show I've seen on a Broadway stage. I just got home, and it makes me so mad that people are giving that a standing ovation. Someone please tell me it is the performers they're applauding and nothing else.

Seriously, I'm just pissed off. Updated On: 11/12/04 at 10:18 PM

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broadwaystar2b
#1re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:19pm

Tell us about it TDK
get it off your chest re: Sad Trash

#2re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:19pm

woah. try not to get into his way.

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millie_dillmount
#3re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:21pm

Glad you had a good time.


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capnkidd
#4re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:22pm

it is the performers that they are applauding & nothing else...

#5re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 10:55pm

I would applaud them more if they had the good sense to leave that turkey.

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Crazy4MattMorrison52
#6re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 11:05pm

i liked bklyn alot. i thought it had a good story and great songs. i also thought the cast was awesome


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Tiny-Toon
#7re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 11:06pm

I didn't want to post.. but here it is..
Many people love BROOKLYN, and the cast, songs, and everything about it. And yes, I love brooklyn too! :)
Yay for brooklyn! re: Sad Trash
haha


insomniak
#8re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 11:09pm

If you didn't want to then you wouldn'tve. We all know you love it to death. And can you please fix your signature?

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luvWICKED416
#9re: Sad Trash
Posted: 11/11/04 at 11:31pm

haha... I love tinytoon posts on a thread that bashes BKLYN

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Tiny-Toon
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Posted: 11/11/04 at 11:31pm

Don't worry insomniak, i'll fix it VERY soon


mule
#11FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 9:44am

I have to respectfully disagree. I went to see Brooklyn with no predisposed notion and very little knowledge about the show. It was very good. I will agree that the strength of the show is the performers as vocally this was a very strong group.

I enjoyed the unique presentation and actually liked the book.

twogaab2
#12FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 9:50am

I liked this show a LOT. But you know what they say "those who can DO, TEACH. Those who can't to anything, become CRITICS". (at least nowadays)


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redhotinnyc2
#13FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 10:06am

Yay! I now have someone else to add to my block users list...Tiny Toon - the most ridiculous poster to ever hit these boards - what a total shill - I will relish not having to ever see that insipid avatar of his/hers again...


"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!

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Tiny-Toon
#14FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 10:10am

Great! FWIW I disagree


TapDanceKid
#15FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 12:22pm


"I enjoyed the unique presentation and actually liked the book. "

---What? What was unique about it? The book??! What book?!!? You mean the HORRIBLE lines between the HORRIBLE songs??

Having slept on it, I've come to some more realizations:

1. I felt embarassed for the performers... the book is atrocious. I give the performers props for doing such amazing jobs at trying to find some sort of heart in a completely soul-less story. It's clear that they've transported themselves to that magic headspace of putting all energy and heart behind the piece they're involved in - they've lost all perspective.

2. La-di-da-dah, dah-dah, La...da-di-dah... seemed to be the only hook in the whole show. How depressing. A show full of soul-less soul-singing.

3. Isn't the war story aspect of the show a little offensive to anyone who has been to war??? To play it so seriously and so lightly at the same time! I was offended, and I've never been to war. How ridiculous.

4. The Magic Man? What?! What's he for? Nothing... stupid song, too. Suddenly, the lead player from Pippin pops in?

5. Lyrics.... unimaginative, trite, and awkward....

Maybe I've been a bit harsh. But as a member of the NOW generation (I'm 24), I must say it appalls me that audiences seem to be loving this.

Remember RENT? Oh, what I'd do for another show like that.

And:

"I liked this show a LOT. But you know what they say "those who can DO, TEACH. Those who can't to anything, become CRITICS". (at least nowadays) "

-- I'm not a professional critic, I have my own wonderful life, thank you.

CJR
#16FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 12:46pm

To quote a brooklyn thread we have somewhere here (and Im too lazy to look for)

"when bad theatre happens to great performers"


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iluvtheatertrash
#17FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 1:07pm

Okay, I need to say:

I'm a Sondheim lover. I love the beauty of his works. I love William Finn. I love Ricky Ian Gordon. I love Adam Guettel. Jason Robert Brown. Thought-provoking works. And yes, I hate everything about 'Wicked'. I'm praying it closes tomorrow. But...

I thoroughly enjoyed 'Brooklyn'. Okay. It's nothing spectacular. It's not thought-provoking. It didn't make for an incredible night at the theater. But there is a lot of beauty to the production. It's visually stunning and incredibly creative. The idea behind it is simple, but the idea behind Lorca's masterpiece 'Blood Wedding' is simple, too. Possibly even simpler.

I wouldn't go as far as calling 'Brooklyn' trash. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a masterpiece either. But there is the simple beauty to it to really consider, I think.


"I know now that theatre saved my life." - Susan Stroman

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Matt_G
#18FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 1:08pm

I'll go as far, than.

It's a piece of crap. Ramona girl, come over here and let Matt_G write you a good piece of theatre.


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morosco
#19FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 1:21pm

Brooklyn is yet another musical that appeals to audiences who've developed lowered expectations. Brooklyn further lowers the quality bar on Broadway.

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joeyjoe
#20FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 1:21pm

twogaab, actually the phrasing is

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, administrate" and on and on...

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redhotinnyc2
#21FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 2:51pm

Beaver - thats amazing - and accurate. I just picked up a Backstage at lunch, and lo and behold - the critic actually LIKED Brooklyn...I was shocked. and decided not to put any stock in THAT review...lol...


"I don't really get the ending,all i can go with is when after several months,Judith saw Pat sang,and later she kissed him on the toilet,after that the story back to where Pat went down from the stage after he'd sung,and he went to the italian lady.I just don't get it,what Judith exatcly meant when he kissed Pat that she had seen,and did Pat end up together with The Italian Lady?Please help me,thank u very much!" Quote from someone on IMDB in reference to a movie he/she didn't understand. Such grammar!

iluvtheatertrash
#22FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 3:11pm

I think what people are missing is the fact that this is Broadway now. Whether you want to admit it or not, this is the age we're living in. And nothing's going to be spectacular, but if you take it for what it is instead of setting a high standard (I mean, you can't put Sondheim and... I don't know. Boy George in the same group. They're COMPLETELY different.) and expecting it to beat it - you might find some beauty in it.


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Amy Archer
#23FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 3:30pm

That's a really dispiriting post. What, because we're living now, musical theatre is supposed to suck?

As far as your mention of Boy George, the Taboo score was a much more accomplished piece of pop musical theatre writing than the score for Brooklyn. Taboo was a mess of a show, but to my eyes and ears, had much more to recommend it than Brooklyn.

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Thoroughly Modern Cara
#24FWIW I disagree
Posted: 11/12/04 at 4:35pm

iluvtheatertrash...Are you honestly telling us that we should hold Broadway productions to a lower standard so that we can enjoy them? Being a theatre fanatic like the rest of you, we have seen many things and have come to expect a certain level of excellence from a production and when it's not there, there is nothing wrong with saying so. I haven't seen Brooklyn yet so I'm not commenting on it at all but only saying that there is nothing wrong with making judgements and having realistically high standards for the shows on Broadway. It is a sad day when we settle...and hell we wouldn't have this board if we did!