You're right Drama, after all this isn's a religious based board so my comment may have been a bit inappropriate, I believe everyone has the right to manifest their faith as they please. On that note, I'll politely remove my post.
I think of that every time someone flaunts their faith, and yes, I do feel it is flaunting. (Obviously I can only thing of the existence of that verse since I did not KNOW it.)
I have no issue with people that have strong faith -- I just don't want to hear about it.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
I rather agree with you drama, that one's religion should be quiet and personal (like farts), but there are plenty who interpret certain New Testament verses as commands to get out there and proselytize for all they're worth.
I don't think it's cool to be making fun of someone's faith.
And for those who do have a problem with it - it says a lot more about them than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it. There is no need to be shamed for doing so.
That paragraph of Carlos' hypnotized me as I tried vainly to parse it (which I sincerely tried to do).
When you write "And for those who do have a problem with it," what does that "it" refer to? Making fun of someone's faith?
And when you next write "it says a lot more about them," what does that "it" refer to? And who is "them?" Those who make fun, or those who have a problem with making fun?
And when you write "than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it," I confess that I'm really lost as to what that "it" refers to. (So many "its!")
And finally - "There is no need to be shamed for doing so." What does that "so" refer to? Doing precisely what? Expressing "it?" (Whatever "it" is...)
But even though most of the comments in this thread have been in jest, do you really see anyone's faith being made fun of?
Yes, most of the comments. It's obvious some people on this board have a problem when someone chooses to express and show their faith and then put a negative spin on it and accuse them of "flaunting" their faith.
I just want to chime in and say that, as a non religious person, I often become annoyed at one "flaunting" their faith... however, psychologically speaking, I can easily understand why they do it; and though I don't like it, I understand it. And though I don't respect the religion, I respect the person. People have faith for a variety of reasons outside their own control. I think it's important to consider the contributing factors as the cause, and the behavior/belief as the result of said influences. That has helped me coexist with the born again, and beyond.
I don't see why you would feel the need to explain Carlos' statement, as I feel his message was completely clear.
Carlos, I completely agree with you, I don't feel ashamed of my faith, and I'm not by any means an overtly religious person either, I just thought it was wrong to make fun of bible verses today, of all days. I don't feel that is "Flaunting" either, as I feel I should have the same right of professing my faith, you have of mocking it.
Sorry newintown, I didn't mean to "hypnotize" you. So I will make it clear. I admit I was a bit rushed in my response.
That paragraph of Carlos' hypnotized me as I tried vainly to parse it (which I sincerely tried to do).
When you write "And for those who do have a problem with it," what does that "it" refer to? Making fun of someone's faith?
The it I was referring to was FAITH.
And when you next write "it says a lot more about them," what does that "it" refer to? And who is "them?" Those who make fun, or those who have a problem with making fun?
The "it" I was referring to was the action of making fun of someone's faith.
"Them" are those who are making fun of it.
And when you write "than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it," I confess that I'm really lost as to what that "it" refers to. (So many "its!")
The first "it" I was referring to was the negative action of making fun of someone else's faith.
The second "it" I was referring to was FAITH.
And finally - "There is no need to be shamed for doing so." What does that "so" refer to? Doing precisely what? Expressing "it?" (Whatever "it" is...)
What I meant to say is there is no need (for anyone) to be ashamed in expressing their faith.
I said it was my opinion. I didn't make fun of anything. I didn't say they had no right to do so.
If they have the freedom to express it: I have the right to dislike it. You can't have it both ways. Just like those that use the bible as a reason to disapprove of homosexuality but don't follow every other statement that is written within the covers of the very same bible.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
And again, that insinuates that I don't have a right to my opinion.
I don't yell at people that do these things, I don't ask them to stop. I'm all about live and let live.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
And for those who do have a problem with it - it says a lot more about them than it does about the person who is not ashamed to express it. There is no need to be shamed for doing so.
Speaking strictly for myself, I'm ashamed that I spent half my life believing in such nonsense.
Well I'm sorry I had to be the Debbie Downer of the thread. I'm not a religious person per se...I do have my faith and I am a very spiritual person.
I have never, ever forced my faith or my beliefs on anyone on this board ever. I have actually gone out of my way to ignore the many, many, many threads that have popped up over the years that took "joking" to the level of complete disrespect when it came to faith or to religion or spiritual beliefs.
I never, ever got involved.
I'm truly sorry I did this one time. It will not happen again.
I don't consider having a Bible verse in their bio to be flaunting their faith. It's not that black and white, in my opinion - you're not either being completely silent about it or flaunting it. To me, flaunting it is standing in Times Square screaming about Jebus. Anyway, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and all that good stuff. Actors have a right to to put what they want in their bios, and everyone here has a right to discuss it.
And now I'm going back to my knitting and undeserved self-righteousness. :)